Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

I am still getting sloppy things happening when i press enter to 
select the next pattern.

I know that this is a blast from the past but i am constantly 
wrighting material with very tight basses and leeds and when i press 
the enter button they open up for a second.  OS 1.32 almost cured it 
but it is still happening.  

I fell that this is not sompthing that is being looked at any more 
by the emu folks.  I am rely courious to know if any one elts is 
still getting this problem.  I cant be the only one making minimal 
techno with this thing.  So I feel that I am probibly not the only 
one.

Peace 

Mike G.

Never seen that man, pattern switches are solid as can be here.

rEalm





I am still getting sloppy things happening when i press enter to 
select the next pattern.

I fell that this is not sompthing that is being looked at any more 
by the emu folks.  I am rely courious to know if any one elts is 
still getting this problem.  I cant be the only one making minimal 
techno with this thing.  So I feel that I am probibly not the only 
one.






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When you hit enter, the processor has to devote some time to loading
the next sequence.  This can cause notes with *very* short envelopes to
be a few milliseconds longer than normal.  It's been described as "it
opens up a little bit".  Most people usually have some longer masking
notes so it's not usually noticeable.  However, minmalist stuff tends
to focus as much on the silence between notes as it does on the notes
themseleves (otherwise it wouldn't be called "minamalist" right? =) so
it can be heard more easily.

Unfortunately, this is one of those inevitable tradeoffs in systems
without infinite CPU (which is *every* system).  The tradeoff here
would be pattern loading time.  You would be just as unhappy if you
selected a pattern and it didn't play in time.  We did adjust this in
some of the later releases to devote more CPU to the synth, making this
problem a bit less, so if you don't have the latest OS (1.32), you
should get it.

-Aaron

--- erik_magrini@... wrote:
> I am still getting sloppy things happening when i press enter to 
> select the next pattern.
> 
> I fell that this is not sompthing that is being looked at any more 
> by the emu folks.  I am rely courious to know if any one elts is 
> still getting this problem.  I cant be the only one making minimal 
> techno with this thing.  So I feel that I am probibly not the only 
> one.

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thanks for getting back to me Aaron.

I am not happy though.  This for me is a massive problem.  I can't 
use this box for alot of the music I plan to make over the next few 
months due to this fact.  All my arp bass lines are the type of 
thing you would hear in sompthing like Devine's track "Native 
Love".  or the bass line in Donna summers, "I Feel Love".  And for 
me the thing that makes them so strong is that tight pulsing.  It is 
the arp bass sounds that drive thoes tracks and when they open up as 
the XL does it sounds like sompthing is going wrong. It is not 
musical.  I would be happy to wait a couple of seconds or what ever 
it would take for the patterns to load slower so the cpu could 
handle the load with out creating flaws in the synth.

After a long wait for the new OS and the total lack of cash (still 
paying off the xl)I have to wait and see how i feel in a couple of 
months.  But my heart is kinda sinking in my chest.  Will i have to 
stop using the XL for sequencing?  I have spent a lot of time 
getting comfortable with it, i don't even want to think about it.  
And frankly switch to what?  I rely like the way that this box it 
set up.  And besides from what i have read it seems to me that the 
Roland 909 would be even worse in this respect but i have not tried 
it for long enough to know this first hand.

All in all I love this XL7 and i wont be selling it due to the 
wonderfull synth and front pannel but I think i may have to use 
sompthing elts to sequence it.

I would love to know what you think about this Aaron, if you have 
any advice for me i would love to know what you are thinking.

Mike G.

curiousproductions@...



--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@y...> wrote:
> When you hit enter, the processor has to devote some time to 
loading
> the next sequence.  This can cause notes with *very* short 
envelopes to
> be a few milliseconds longer than normal.  It's been described 
as "it
> opens up a little bit".  Most people usually have some longer 
masking
> notes so it's not usually noticeable.  However, minmalist stuff 
tends
> to focus as much on the silence between notes as it does on the 
notes
> themseleves (otherwise it wouldn't be called "minamalist" right? 
=) so
> it can be heard more easily.
> 
> Unfortunately, this is one of those inevitable tradeoffs in systems
> without infinite CPU (which is *every* system).  The tradeoff here
> would be pattern loading time.  You would be just as unhappy if you
> selected a pattern and it didn't play in time.  We did adjust this 
in
> some of the later releases to devote more CPU to the synth, making 
this
> problem a bit less, so if you don't have the latest OS (1.32), you
> should get it.
> 
> -Aaron
> 
> --- erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> > I am still getting sloppy things happening when i press enter to 
> > select the next pattern.
> > 
> > I fell that this is not sompthing that is being looked at any 
more 
> > by the emu folks.  I am rely courious to know if any one elts is 
> > still getting this problem.  I cant be the only one making 
minimal 
> > techno with this thing.  So I feel that I am probibly not the 
only 

> > one.
> 
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