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XL-7 S/PDIF format?

2002-05-19 by forneau

Hi-

What is the bit width and sample rate of the XL-7 S/PDIF output?

I've searched the archives for this info and can't seem to find it.

I can't get the digital output to work with any of the following:

1) Yamaha AW2816 hard disk recorder
2) Emagic EMI 2|6 USB audio interface
3) Roland UA-30 USB audio interface

None of these devices recognize the signal coming from the XL-
7. I am using the correct (expensive) coaxial cable for digital 
signals.

Any other hints on what's necessary to set this up correctly will 
be appreciated.

Thanks-
Forneau

Re: [xl7] XL-7 S/PDIF format?

2002-05-20 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com

I believe it's 24bit/44.1kHz.

As for the other gear, you have their digital sync set to S/PDIF and not 
master or internal, right?

rEalm





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Hi-

What is the bit width and sample rate of the XL-7 S/PDIF output?

I've searched the archives for this info and can't seem to find it.

I can't get the digital output to work with any of the following:

1) Yamaha AW2816 hard disk recorder
2) Emagic EMI 2|6 USB audio interface
3) Roland UA-30 USB audio interface

None of these devices recognize the signal coming from the XL-
7. I am using the correct (expensive) coaxial cable for digital 
signals.

Any other hints on what's necessary to set this up correctly will 
be appreciated.

Thanks-
Forneau




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Re: XL-7 S/PDIF format?

2002-05-20 by forneau

Yes, the receiving gear is set to external digital sync.

The Roland UA-30 cannot handle 24-bit, so if the XL-7 is 
outputting 24-bit, then this device will most likely not work.

However, both the AW2816 and the EMI 2|6 can do 24-bit, so I 
don't know what else to try. These devices work fine receiving 
16-bit 44.1kHz from the Electrix Repeater, BTW.

Will try calling Emu. 

Thanks-
-Forneau

--- In xl7@y..., erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> I believe it's 24bit/44.1kHz.
> 
> As for the other gear, you have their digital sync set to S/PDIF 
and not 
> master or internal, right?
> 
> rEalm
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> forneau <forneau@y...>
> 05/19/02 02:09 PM
> Please respond to xl7
> 
>  
>         To:     xl7@y...
>         cc: 
>         Subject:        [xl7] XL-7 S/PDIF format?
> 
> 
> Hi-
> 
> What is the bit width and sample rate of the XL-7 S/PDIF 
output?
> 
> I've searched the archives for this info and can't seem to find it.
> 
> I can't get the digital output to work with any of the following:
> 
> 1) Yamaha AW2816 hard disk recorder
> 2) Emagic EMI 2|6 USB audio interface
> 3) Roland UA-30 USB audio interface
> 
> None of these devices recognize the signal coming from the 
XL-
> 7. I am using the correct (expensive) coaxial cable for digital 
> signals.
> 
> Any other hints on what's necessary to set this up correctly will 
> be appreciated.
> 
> Thanks-
> Forneau
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [xl7] Re: XL-7 S/PDIF format?

2002-05-20 by Nick Rothwell

> The Roland UA-30 cannot handle 24-bit, so if the XL-7 is 
> outputting 24-bit, then this device will most likely not work.

I've successfully run S/PDIF from a Roland VM3100Pro desk (44.1,
24bit) into a portable MiniDisc which AFAIR takes 16-bit S/PDIF before
doing ATRAC on it, so this shouldn't matter.

If you like I'll try getting an S/PDIF feed from my XL-7 to the VM3100
and/or the MD and/or an OasysPCI. However, I recall when reviewing the
Audity that I tried S/PDIF out of that, and it didn't work out of the
box (and I didn't pursue it further).

-- 

  nick rothwell -- composition, systems, performance -- http://www.cassiel.com
  upcoming gig at cybersonica, london, june 5th  -- http://www.cybersonica.org

Re: [xl7] Re: XL-7 S/PDIF format?

2002-05-20 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com

Did you try setting the SPDIF in the XL-7 to prefessional and not consumer 
mode?  Or vice versa as your situation requires...

rEalm





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Yes, the receiving gear is set to external digital sync.

The Roland UA-30 cannot handle 24-bit, so if the XL-7 is 
outputting 24-bit, then this device will most likely not work.

However, both the AW2816 and the EMI 2|6 can do 24-bit, so I 
don't know what else to try. These devices work fine receiving 
16-bit 44.1kHz from the Electrix Repeater, BTW.

Will try calling Emu. 

Thanks-
-Forneau

--- In xl7@y..., erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> I believe it's 24bit/44.1kHz.
> 
> As for the other gear, you have their digital sync set to S/PDIF 
and not 
> master or internal, right?
> 
> rEalm
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> forneau <forneau@y...>
> 05/19/02 02:09 PM
> Please respond to xl7
> 
> 
>         To:     xl7@y...
>         cc: 
>         Subject:        [xl7] XL-7 S/PDIF format?
> 
> 
> Hi-
> 
> What is the bit width and sample rate of the XL-7 S/PDIF 
output?
> 
> I've searched the archives for this info and can't seem to find it.
> 
> I can't get the digital output to work with any of the following:
> 
> 1) Yamaha AW2816 hard disk recorder
> 2) Emagic EMI 2|6 USB audio interface
> 3) Roland UA-30 USB audio interface
> 
> None of these devices recognize the signal coming from the 
XL-
> 7. I am using the correct (expensive) coaxial cable for digital 
> signals.
> 
> Any other hints on what's necessary to set this up correctly will 
> be appreciated.
> 
> Thanks-
> Forneau
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: XL-7 S/PDIF format?

2002-05-21 by forneau

Yes, I tried setting to AES/Pro and that didn't work either. Actually, 
I didn't expect AES/Pro to work since a different connector (XLR) 
is involved. The manual has instructions on how to re-wire the 
other end of the outgoing coax RCA -> XLR. The other receiving 
devices have S/PDIF connectors and don't take the XLR+AES/
Pro anyway.

I'd like to hear from anyone who has actually gotten the digital 
out to work. Maybe they could explain what format the receiving 
gear was set up for in a successful situation.

I'm disappointed that this basic information (sample rate, bit 
depth) is not mentioned in any Emu documentation. Every other 
piece of equipment I have with digital I/O capability clearly states 
this information.

Maybe the digital out is like the USB port: not actually functioning 
until a later OS. Or, maybe it's just broken in my machine.

Thanks for the help-
-Forneau

--- In xl7@y..., erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> Did you try setting the SPDIF in the XL-7 to prefessional and 
not consumer 
> mode?  Or vice versa as your situation requires...
> 
> rEalm
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> forneau <forneau@y...>
> 05/20/02 10:06 AM
> Please respond to xl7
> 
>  
>         To:     xl7@y...
>         cc: 
>         Subject:        [xl7] Re: XL-7 S/PDIF format?
> 
> 
> Yes, the receiving gear is set to external digital sync.
> 
> The Roland UA-30 cannot handle 24-bit, so if the XL-7 is 
> outputting 24-bit, then this device will most likely not work.
> 
> However, both the AW2816 and the EMI 2|6 can do 24-bit, so I 
> don't know what else to try. These devices work fine receiving 
> 16-bit 44.1kHz from the Electrix Repeater, BTW.
> 
> Will try calling Emu. 
> 
> Thanks-
> -Forneau
> 
> --- In xl7@y..., erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> > I believe it's 24bit/44.1kHz.
> > 
> > As for the other gear, you have their digital sync set to S/PDIF 
> and not 
> > master or internal, right?
> > 
> > rEalm
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > forneau <forneau@y...>
> > 05/19/02 02:09 PM
> > Please respond to xl7
> > 
> > 
> >         To:     xl7@y...
> >         cc: 
> >         Subject:        [xl7] XL-7 S/PDIF format?
> > 
> > 
> > Hi-
> > 
> > What is the bit width and sample rate of the XL-7 S/PDIF 
> output?
> > 
> > I've searched the archives for this info and can't seem to find 
it.
> > 
> > I can't get the digital output to work with any of the following:
> > 
> > 1) Yamaha AW2816 hard disk recorder
> > 2) Emagic EMI 2|6 USB audio interface
> > 3) Roland UA-30 USB audio interface
> > 
> > None of these devices recognize the signal coming from the 
> XL-
> > 7. I am using the correct (expensive) coaxial cable for digital 
> > signals.
> > 
> > Any other hints on what's necessary to set this up correctly 
will 
> > be appreciated.
> > 
> > Thanks-
> > Forneau
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: [xl7] Re: XL-7 S/PDIF format?

2002-05-21 by Scott Ruda

On Monday, May 20, 2002, at 05:24  PM, forneau wrote:

> I'm disappointed that this basic information (sample rate, bit
> depth) is not mentioned in any Emu documentation. Every other
> piece of equipment I have with digital I/O capability clearly states
> this information.

It's 20 bit, 44.1kHz. Note that this information is essentially encoded 
into the signal, so a receiver should be able to auto-detect the format 
without user intervention. But if your receiver requires you to set this 
information manually, now you have the information you need.


> Maybe the digital out is like the USB port: not actually functioning
> until a later OS. Or, maybe it's just broken in my machine.

The SPDIF has been working since day one of shipment. Many people are 
using it with great success. Note also that USB is now functional with 
Windows drivers - Mac drivers are due late summertime. See the E-Loader 
1.1 information at the E-mu website: 
<http://www.emu.com/support/eloader.html>

We have seen that some receivers have troubles with receiving SPDIF 
well. The basic problem with SPDIF is that it is very difficult to 
supply it and still have the unit pass FCC radiation emission 
requirements. So, unfortunately, the signal must be clamped down to a 
value needed to meet legal FCC emissions levels, but  it still meets the 
SPDIF spec. There are electrical hacks that can be done to the output 
circuitry to make the signal stronger, but we can't legally sell the 
product that way. If your receiver is having trouble, you might consider 
either a different receiver that is more sensitive, or finding a tech 
that is competent (and willing) to try doing the electrical 
modifications. Note that doing this can cause noise problems with other 
equipment in your studio (besides being illegal ;-). Contact me offline 
if you are considering this alternative.

Scott

Re: [xl7] Re: XL-7 S/PDIF format?

2002-05-21 by Nick Rothwell

> Note also that USB is now functional with 
> Windows drivers

I didn't have a chance to try that since I was upgrading the OS from
1.01, which predates the USB support. Now I'm on 1.31 I'll try it.

Btw, this might be a silly question, but: why implement a loader for
song and pattern data, but not for presets? Was this to avoid stepping
on Emagic or MOTU's toes?

> - Mac drivers are due late summertime.

MacOS 9 or MacOS X?

Regarding S/PDIF: I'll have a go at linking the XL-7 to my VM3100
desk, portable DAT, MiniDisc and an OasysPCI tonight, and report back.

-- 

  nick rothwell -- composition, systems, performance -- http://www.cassiel.com
  upcoming gig at cybersonica, london, june 5th  -- http://www.cybersonica.org

Re: [xl7] Re: XL-7 S/PDIF format?

2002-05-21 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com

You don't need a special connector for AES Pro, XLR just happens to be the 
most common.  I believe the only difference is how the digital copy 
protection crap (forgot the acronym for it) is handled between the two 
standards.

rEalm





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Yes, I tried setting to AES/Pro and that didn't work either. Actually, 
I didn't expect AES/Pro to work since a different connector (XLR) 
is involved. The manual has instructions on how to re-wire the 
other end of the outgoing coax RCA -> XLR. The other receiving 
devices have S/PDIF connectors and don't take the XLR+AES/
Pro anyway.

I'd like to hear from anyone who has actually gotten the digital 
out to work. Maybe they could explain what format the receiving 
gear was set up for in a successful situation.

I'm disappointed that this basic information (sample rate, bit 
depth) is not mentioned in any Emu documentation. Every other 
piece of equipment I have with digital I/O capability clearly states 
this information.

Maybe the digital out is like the USB port: not actually functioning 
until a later OS. Or, maybe it's just broken in my machine.

Thanks for the help-
-Forneau

--- In xl7@y..., erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> Did you try setting the SPDIF in the XL-7 to prefessional and 
not consumer 
> mode?  Or vice versa as your situation requires...
> 
> rEalm
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> forneau <forneau@y...>
> 05/20/02 10:06 AM
> Please respond to xl7
> 
> 
>         To:     xl7@y...
>         cc: 
>         Subject:        [xl7] Re: XL-7 S/PDIF format?
> 
> 
> Yes, the receiving gear is set to external digital sync.
> 
> The Roland UA-30 cannot handle 24-bit, so if the XL-7 is 
> outputting 24-bit, then this device will most likely not work.
> 
> However, both the AW2816 and the EMI 2|6 can do 24-bit, so I 
> don't know what else to try. These devices work fine receiving 
> 16-bit 44.1kHz from the Electrix Repeater, BTW.
> 
> Will try calling Emu. 
> 
> Thanks-
> -Forneau
> 
> --- In xl7@y..., erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> > I believe it's 24bit/44.1kHz.
> > 
> > As for the other gear, you have their digital sync set to S/PDIF 
> and not 
> > master or internal, right?
> > 
> > rEalm
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > forneau <forneau@y...>
> > 05/19/02 02:09 PM
> > Please respond to xl7
> > 
> > 
> >         To:     xl7@y...
> >         cc: 
> >         Subject:        [xl7] XL-7 S/PDIF format?
> > 
> > 
> > Hi-
> > 
> > What is the bit width and sample rate of the XL-7 S/PDIF 
> output?
> > 
> > I've searched the archives for this info and can't seem to find 
it.
> > 
> > I can't get the digital output to work with any of the following:
> > 
> > 1) Yamaha AW2816 hard disk recorder
> > 2) Emagic EMI 2|6 USB audio interface
> > 3) Roland UA-30 USB audio interface
> > 
> > None of these devices recognize the signal coming from the 
> XL-
> > 7. I am using the correct (expensive) coaxial cable for digital 
> > signals.
> > 
> > Any other hints on what's necessary to set this up correctly 
will 
> > be appreciated.
> > 
> > Thanks-
> > Forneau
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: [xl7] Re: XL-7 S/PDIF format?

2002-05-21 by Nick Rothwell

> I believe the only difference is how the digital copy 
> protection crap (forgot the acronym for it) is handled between the two 
> standards.

Technically, S/PDIF and AES/EBU have a different impedance and voltage
swing. One can run S/PDIF with the copy code stuff (SCMS) disabled.

-- 

  nick rothwell -- composition, systems, performance -- http://www.cassiel.com
  upcoming gig at cybersonica, london, june 5th  -- http://www.cybersonica.org

Re: [xl7] Re: XL-7 S/PDIF format?

2002-05-21 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com

Sorry, I was only referring to SPDIF in the XX-7's (with regards to SCMS) 
not all SPDIF AES/EBU issues.  Thanx though!

rEalm





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> I believe the only difference is how the digital copy 
> protection crap (forgot the acronym for it) is handled between the two 
> standards.

Technically, S/PDIF and AES/EBU have a different impedance and voltage
swing. One can run S/PDIF with the copy code stuff (SCMS) disabled.

-- 

  nick rothwell -- composition, systems, performance -- 
http://www.cassiel.com
  upcoming gig at cybersonica, london, june 5th  -- 
http://www.cybersonica.org


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Re: [xl7] Re: XL-7 S/PDIF format?

2002-05-21 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com

Also, I thought all the internal processing after the filters was 24bit 
(maybe I'm thinking of other gear), why drop it to 20bit for the outputs?

rEalm





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Scott-

Thanks for the information. (digital out is 20-bit, 44.1kHz)

What happens to this signal at the receiver end? If the device 
says it supports 16-bit conversion, can it read the 20-bit data?

If the device supports 24-bit conversion, does it translate the 20-
bit data to 24-bit depth?

I'm not sure how to get these settings right, especially with the 
two pieces of equipment that I need it for: the Emagic EMI 2|6 
USB interface (which supports 16 or 24 bit) and the Yamaha 
AW2816 (which also supports 16 or 24-bit.) There is no 20-bit 
setting for these, that I know of.

I will need to check with the manufacturers for help on this.

-Forneau


--- In xl7@y..., Scott Ruda <scottr@e...> wrote:
> 
> On Monday, May 20, 2002, at 05:24  PM, forneau wrote:
> 
> > I'm disappointed that this basic information (sample rate, bit
> > depth) is not mentioned in any Emu documentation. Every 
other
> > piece of equipment I have with digital I/O capability clearly 
states
> > this information.
> 
> It's 20 bit, 44.1kHz. Note that this information is essentially 
encoded 
> into the signal, so a receiver should be able to auto-detect the 
format 
> without user intervention. But if your receiver requires you to set 
this 
> information manually, now you have the information you need.
> 
> 
> > Maybe the digital out is like the USB port: not actually 
functioning
> > until a later OS. Or, maybe it's just broken in my machine.
> 
> The SPDIF has been working since day one of shipment. Many 
people are 
> using it with great success. Note also that USB is now 
functional with 
> Windows drivers - Mac drivers are due late summertime. See 
the E-Loader 
> 1.1 information at the E-mu website: 
> <http://www.emu.com/support/eloader.html>
> 
> We have seen that some receivers have troubles with 
receiving SPDIF 
> well. The basic problem with SPDIF is that it is very difficult to 
> supply it and still have the unit pass FCC radiation emission 
> requirements. So, unfortunately, the signal must be clamped 
down to a 
> value needed to meet legal FCC emissions levels, but  it still 
meets the 
> SPDIF spec. There are electrical hacks that can be done to the 
output 
> circuitry to make the signal stronger, but we can't legally sell 
the 
> product that way. If your receiver is having trouble, you might 
consider 
> either a different receiver that is more sensitive, or finding a 
tech 
> that is competent (and willing) to try doing the electrical 
> modifications. Note that doing this can cause noise problems 
with other 
> equipment in your studio (besides being illegal ;-). Contact me 
offline 
> if you are considering this alternative.
> 
> Scott



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Re: XL-7 S/PDIF format?

2002-05-21 by forneau

Scott-

Thanks for the information. (digital out is 20-bit, 44.1kHz)

What happens to this signal at the receiver end? If the device 
says it supports 16-bit conversion, can it read the 20-bit data?

If the device supports 24-bit conversion, does it translate the 20-
bit data to 24-bit depth?

I'm not sure how to get these settings right, especially with the 
two pieces of equipment that I need it for: the Emagic EMI 2|6 
USB interface (which supports 16 or 24 bit) and the Yamaha 
AW2816 (which also supports 16 or 24-bit.) There is no 20-bit 
setting for these, that I know of.

I will need to check with the manufacturers for help on this.

-Forneau


--- In xl7@y..., Scott Ruda <scottr@e...> wrote:
> 
> On Monday, May 20, 2002, at 05:24  PM, forneau wrote:
> 
> > I'm disappointed that this basic information (sample rate, bit
> > depth) is not mentioned in any Emu documentation. Every 
other
> > piece of equipment I have with digital I/O capability clearly 
states
> > this information.
> 
> It's 20 bit, 44.1kHz. Note that this information is essentially 
encoded 
> into the signal, so a receiver should be able to auto-detect the 
format 
> without user intervention. But if your receiver requires you to set 
this 
> information manually, now you have the information you need.
> 
> 
> > Maybe the digital out is like the USB port: not actually 
functioning
> > until a later OS. Or, maybe it's just broken in my machine.
> 
> The SPDIF has been working since day one of shipment. Many 
people are 
> using it with great success. Note also that USB is now 
functional with 
> Windows drivers - Mac drivers are due late summertime. See 
the E-Loader 
> 1.1 information at the E-mu website: 
> <http://www.emu.com/support/eloader.html>
> 
> We have seen that some receivers have troubles with 
receiving SPDIF 
> well. The basic problem with SPDIF is that it is very difficult to 
> supply it and still have the unit pass FCC radiation emission 
> requirements. So, unfortunately, the signal must be clamped 
down to a 
> value needed to meet legal FCC emissions levels, but  it still 
meets the 
> SPDIF spec. There are electrical hacks that can be done to the 
output 
> circuitry to make the signal stronger, but we can't legally sell 
the 
> product that way. If your receiver is having trouble, you might 
consider 
> either a different receiver that is more sensitive, or finding a 
tech 
> that is competent (and willing) to try doing the electrical 
> modifications. Note that doing this can cause noise problems 
with other 
> equipment in your studio (besides being illegal ;-). Contact me 
offline 
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> if you are considering this alternative.
> 
> Scott

Re: [xl7] Re: XL-7 S/PDIF format?

2002-05-21 by Nick Rothwell

> Sorry, I was only referring to SPDIF in the XX-7's (with regards to SCMS) 
> not all SPDIF AES/EBU issues.  Thanx though!

Nae probs: I misinterpreted your comment. (Some people have reported
that they've managed to plug AES/EBU and S/PDIF stuff together, which
is why I was prompted to look it up.)

I'll try the XL-7 S/PDIF later today...

-- 

  nick rothwell -- composition, systems, performance -- http://www.cassiel.com
  upcoming gig at cybersonica, london, june 5th  -- http://www.cybersonica.org

Re: [xl7] Re: XL-7 S/PDIF format?

2002-05-21 by Nick Rothwell

> What happens to this signal at the receiver end? If the device 
> says it supports 16-bit conversion, can it read the 20-bit data?
> 
> If the device supports 24-bit conversion, does it translate the 20-
> bit data to 24-bit depth?

I believe the answer is yes to both (truncating or zero-extending as
necessary) - certainly I can run optical S/PDIF from my 24-bit desk to
my 16-bit MiniDisc. I've read some comments that the lack of low-order
dithering adds a noise floor, but it's not something I've particularly
noticed (or particularly understood, for that matter).

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Re: [xl7] Re: XL-7 S/PDIF format?

2002-05-22 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com


Hehe, that's kind of funny since the purpose of dither is to (effectively) add a noisefloor.

rEalm



I've read some comments that the lack of low-order dithering adds a noise floor, but it's not something I've particularly noticed (or particularly understood, for that matter).






Re: [xl7] Re: XL-7 S/PDIF format?

2002-05-22 by Nick Rothwell

> Hehe, that's kind of funny since the purpose of dither is to (effectively) 
> add a noisefloor.

Doesn't make sense to me either, but I read it in a magazine, so it
must be true...

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  upcoming gig at cybersonica, london, june 5th  -- http://www.cybersonica.org

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