Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

I have problems with the data wheel. I sent back my last XL-7 because 
the data wheel was buggy. When I turned it sometimes it did strange 
things. When trying to change pattern or anything, it would 
suddenly "jump" to a completley different value (And I know I didn't 
turn the wheel that fast).

I got a new XL-7 and had no problem with it. The data wheel was 
acting nice 'n smooth, no unexpected "jumps". Until now. A while ago 
I noticed the data wheel on the new XL-7 started to act a little bit 
weird. And now it's quite bad again, like the last XL-7.

Must be quite low quality components or something? This never 
happends to my other synthesizers.

I just want to know how the data wheel is for the others of you?

//Nifflas

Bizarre, never had any problems here, and I jam on my gear pretty hard 
sometimes too.  Maybe go to a local music store and see if they're floor 
unit is experiencing the same problems?  It might be something that 
happens over time or with abuse (not saying you do), and floor models are 
great for this (which is why I never buy floor models!).

rEalm



I just want to know how the data wheel is for the others of you?

Nifflas,

It's called the encoder.  The same thing happened on my P2K if the 
wheel was turned too quickly.  Here is my reply to a user on the P2K 
group with what I do to avoid sending it away....


> Subject: [p2k] Re: Problems with TurnWheel???
> 
> 
> Unfortunately there is nothing you can do aside from sending it 
away 
> to a service center. There is a device called an encoder which is 
> soldered in to the front panel(you can see it if you pull the knob 
> off), the is what's going bad. I have the same problem but I find 
> that if I apply pressure to the knob(inward)while turning it(I 
> usually put my thumb near the top-center and rotate either 
clockwise 
> or counter clockwise depending on which value I need), it will 
scroll 
> normally but if I try to spin quickly without pressure, that's when 
> it jumps.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Later,
> 
> M2
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/orbit3/
> 

--- In xl7@y..., "nifflas" <nifflas@m...> wrote:
> I have problems with the data wheel. I sent back my last XL-7 
because 
> the data wheel was buggy. When I turned it sometimes it did strange 
> things. When trying to change pattern or anything, it would 
> suddenly "jump" to a completley different value (And I know I 
didn't 
> turn the wheel that fast).
> 
> I got a new XL-7 and had no problem with it. The data wheel was 
> acting nice 'n smooth, no unexpected "jumps". Until now. A while 
ago 
> I noticed the data wheel on the new XL-7 started to act a little 
bit 

> weird. And now it's quite bad again, like the last XL-7.
> 
> Must be quite low quality components or something? This never 
> happends to my other synthesizers.
> 
> I just want to know how the data wheel is for the others of you?
> 
> //Nifflas

Thank you for this information!

I'll try and see what happends.

//Nifflas

--- In xl7@y..., "emufreak1" <mmcquay@m...> wrote:
> Nifflas,
> 
> It's called the encoder.  The same thing happened on my P2K if the 
> wheel was turned too quickly.  Here is my reply to a user on the 
P2K 
> group with what I do to avoid sending it away....
> 
> 
> > Subject: [p2k] Re: Problems with TurnWheel???
> > 
> > 
> > Unfortunately there is nothing you can do aside from sending it 
> away 
> > to a service center. There is a device called an encoder which is 
> > soldered in to the front panel(you can see it if you pull the 
knob 
> > off), the is what's going bad. I have the same problem but I find 
> > that if I apply pressure to the knob(inward)while turning it(I 
> > usually put my thumb near the top-center and rotate either 
> clockwise 
> > or counter clockwise depending on which value I need), it will 
> scroll 
> > normally but if I try to spin quickly without pressure, that's 
when 
> > it jumps.
> > 
> > Hope this helps.
> > 
> > Later,
> > 
> > M2
> > 
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/orbit3/
> > 
> 
> --- In xl7@y..., "nifflas" <nifflas@m...> wrote:
> > I have problems with the data wheel. I sent back my last XL-7 
> because 
> > the data wheel was buggy. When I turned it sometimes it did 
strange 

> > things. When trying to change pattern or anything, it would 
> > suddenly "jump" to a completley different value (And I know I 
> didn't 
> > turn the wheel that fast).
> > 
> > I got a new XL-7 and had no problem with it. The data wheel was 
> > acting nice 'n smooth, no unexpected "jumps". Until now. A while 
> ago 
> > I noticed the data wheel on the new XL-7 started to act a little 
> bit 
> > weird. And now it's quite bad again, like the last XL-7.
> > 
> > Must be quite low quality components or something? This never 
> > happends to my other synthesizers.
> > 
> > I just want to know how the data wheel is for the others of you?
> > 
> > //Nifflas

I'm extremly careful with my music equipment. Just a poor student and 
can't afford much... so I don't want anything broken.

//Nifflas

--- In xl7@y..., erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> Bizarre, never had any problems here, and I jam on my gear pretty 
hard 
> sometimes too.  Maybe go to a local music store and see if they're 
floor 
> unit is experiencing the same problems?  It might be something that 
> happens over time or with abuse (not saying you do), and floor 
models are 

> great for this (which is why I never buy floor models!).
> 
> rEalm
> 
> 
> 
> I just want to know how the data wheel is for the others of you?

Same here.  My XL-1 is fine and I have not had the issue with that 
one.  

Later,

M2


--- In xl7@y..., "nifflas" <nifflas@m...> wrote:
> I'm extremly careful with my music equipment. Just a poor student 
and 
> can't afford much... so I don't want anything broken.
> 
> //Nifflas
> 
> --- In xl7@y..., erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> > Bizarre, never had any problems here, and I jam on my gear pretty 
> hard 
> > sometimes too.  Maybe go to a local music store and see if 
they're 
> floor 
> > unit is experiencing the same problems?  It might be something 
that 

> > happens over time or with abuse (not saying you do), and floor 
> models are 
> > great for this (which is why I never buy floor models!).
> > 
> > rEalm
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I just want to know how the data wheel is for the others of you?

On a totally different piece of music gear (My Yamaha A5000) the rotary encoded
knobs go haywire after a while too.  Oxidation of the component over time.
Either that or your live set involves swinging it about by the data wheel .. ;)

Andre

-----Original Message-----
From: nifflas [mailto:nifflas@...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 3:38 AM
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [xl7] Problem: Weird wheel!


I have problems with the data wheel. I sent back my last XL-7 because
the data wheel was buggy. When I turned it sometimes it did strange
things. When trying to change pattern or anything, it would
suddenly "jump" to a completley different value (And I know I didn't
turn the wheel that fast).

I got a new XL-7 and had no problem with it. The data wheel was
acting nice 'n smooth, no unexpected "jumps". Until now. A while ago
I noticed the data wheel on the new XL-7 started to act a little bit
weird. And now it's quite bad again, like the last XL-7.

Must be quite low quality components or something? This never
happends to my other synthesizers.

I just want to know how the data wheel is for the others of you?

//Nifflas



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I have problems with the data wheel.

I also am experiencing data wheel wierdness on my MP7, very not smooth anymore, sometimes move several clicks before a value change...did not used to be like this!
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