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sub outs, onboard fx, and GAS.

sub outs, onboard fx, and GAS.

2011-02-27 by Matt

So I remembered someone typing in this list about the sends and efx... so I figured id try to get this figured out. 
In the global menu I set all the mix output sends to preset.  So I saved a 808 kit with sending to sub out 1.  Now I got sub out 1 with turned up gain and bass on the mixer and sounds just as good as esi.  Thumping my floorboards.  This is killer.  I feel like I just installed a rack mount 808 in the back of the cs.
I built some patches for wobbles pads basslines etc.  Sounds better than my microkorg I sold.  Sounds as good as access virus imho.
And after this I went and played with fx, starting to figure it out and sounds way better than mackie running man onboard mixer fx.  Now I'm trying to figure out I sent them all to preset then I can save different fx presets that don't have sounds in them and set each one to each. 
I guess I took gas-x cuz no more GAS.  Now all I need is the cs.  Maybe I should get an insurance policy. 

Re: sub outs, onboard fx, and GAS.

2011-02-27 by Matt

Bahahahaha this let's me ditch my spiderweb of channel assigns. 

On Feb 27, 2011 1:27 PM, "Matt" <somatt@...> wrote:

So I remembered someone typing in this list about the sends and efx... so I figured id try to get this figured out. 
In the global menu I set all the mix output sends to preset.  So I saved a 808 kit with sending to sub out 1.  Now I got sub out 1 with turned up gain and bass on the mixer and sounds just as good as esi.  Thumping my floorboards.  This is killer.  I feel like I just installed a rack mount 808 in the back of the cs.
I built some patches for wobbles pads basslines etc.  Sounds better than my microkorg I sold.  Sounds as good as access virus imho.
And after this I went and played with fx, starting to figure it out and sounds way better than mackie running man onboard mixer fx.  Now I'm trying to figure out I sent them all to preset then I can save different fx presets that don't have sounds in them and set each one to each. 
I guess I took gas-x cuz no more GAS.  Now all I need is the cs.  Maybe I should get an insurance policy. 

Re: [xl7] sub outs, onboard fx, and GAS.

2011-02-28 by Atom Smasher

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011, Matt wrote:

> So I remembered someone typing in this list about the sends and efx... 
> so I figured id try to get this figured out.  In the global menu I set 
> all the mix output sends to preset.  So I saved a 808 kit with sending 
> to sub out 1.
===================

do this - http://launch.dir.groups.yahoo.com/group/xl7/message/21491

then you don't need to consume preset-memory every time you want to assign 
a preset going to a sub-out.


> Now I got sub out 1 with turned up gain and bass on the mixer and sounds 
> just as good as esi.  Thumping my floorboards.  This is killer.  I feel 
> like I just installed a rack mount 808 in the back of the cs. I built 
> some patches for wobbles pads basslines etc.  Sounds better than my 
> microkorg I sold.  Sounds as good as access virus imho. And after this I 
> went and played with fx, starting to figure it out and sounds way better 
> than mackie running man onboard mixer fx.  Now I'm trying to figure out 
> I sent them all to preset then I can save different fx presets that 
> don't have sounds in them and set each one to each.
==================

my ex-wife is a big fan of hardcore techno. she isn't into gear at all, 
but she knows what a TR-909 sounds like. i briefly had a TR-909 and at 
first i was really disappointed with it, but as soon as i hooked up a 
distortion pedal to the kick-out she came running in and wanted to play 
with it! running the XL-ROM 909 kick through external distortion sounds 
just as good as the real thing. and with the CC-sub-out trick (above) i 
can use the *SAME* 909 preset (no need to save different copies asigned to 
different outputs) on a different channel for everything that isn't a 
kick... or even split the kit among more than two outputs, and several 
outboard fx.


> I guess I took gas-x cuz no more GAS.  Now all I need is the cs.  Maybe 
> I should get an insurance policy.
=======================

here's the weird thing for me... i have a lot of synths; K5K, fs1r, EX-800 
w/ atomohawk, XD-5, homemade 303, etc... and i'm making more music with 
this (picture, below) this then i've ever done with all of the gear hooked 
up - http://smasher.org/tmp/IMG_0495.JPG

the XL7 is set up so each of the six outputs is a mono send into a rack 
effect box. in addition to using CCs to assign the presets to different 
outputs, each pattern pans each sound hard-left or hard-right: six 
outputs!

the onboard fx don't get used.


-- 
         ...atom

  ________________________
  http://atom.smasher.org/
  762A 3B98 A3C3 96C9 C6B7 582A B88D 52E4 D9F5 7808
  -------------------------------------------------

 	"The Army is the Indian's best friend."
 		-- General George Armstron Custer, 1870

Re: [xl7] sub outs, onboard fx, and GAS.

2011-02-28 by Matt

thank you!! This is awesome

On Feb 27, 2011 5:56 PM, "Atom Smasher" <atom@...> wrote:

 



On Sun, 27 Feb 2011, Matt wrote:

> So I remembered someone typing in this list about the sends an...

===================

do this - http://launch.dir.groups.yahoo.com/group/xl7/message/21491

then you don't need to consume preset-memory every time you want to assign
a preset going to a sub-out.



> Now I got sub out 1 with turned up gain and bass on the mixer and sounds
> just as good as esi....

==================

my ex-wife is a big fan of hardcore techno. she isn't into gear at all,
but she knows what a TR-909 sounds like. i briefly had a TR-909 and at
first i was really disappointed with it, but as soon as i hooked up a
distortion pedal to the kick-out she came running in and wanted to play
with it! running the XL-ROM 909 kick through external distortion sounds
just as good as the real thing. and with the CC-sub-out trick (above) i
can use the *SAME* 909 preset (no need to save different copies asigned to
different outputs) on a different channel for everything that isn't a
kick... or even split the kit among more than two outputs, and several
outboard fx.



> I guess I took gas-x cuz no more GAS. Now all I need is the cs. Maybe
> I should get an insuran...

=======================

here's the weird thing for me... i have a lot of synths; K5K, fs1r, EX-800
w/ atomohawk, XD-5, homemade 303, etc... and i'm making more music with
this (picture, below) this then i've ever done with all of the gear hooked
up - http://smasher.org/tmp/IMG_0495.JPG

the XL7 is set up so each of the six outputs is a mono send into a rack
effect box. in addition to using CCs to assign the presets to different
outputs, each pattern pans each sound hard-left or hard-right: six
outputs!

the onboard fx don't get used.

--
...atom

________________________
http://atom.smasher.org/
762A 3B98 A3C3 96C9 C6B7 582A B88D 52E4 D9F5 7808
-------------------------------------------------

"The Army is the Indian's best friend."
-- General George Armstron Custer, 1870

Re: [xl7] sub outs, onboard fx, and GAS.

2011-02-28 by James Ulibarri

"I guess I took gas-x cuz no more GAS."

What you need to take is gas-asr-X and get one of these bad boys something fierce.




On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 9:54 PM, Matt <somatt@...> wrote:
 

thank you!! This is awesome

On Feb 27, 2011 5:56 PM, "Atom Smasher" <atom@...> wrote:

 



On Sun, 27 Feb 2011, Matt wrote:

> So I remembered someone typing in this list about the sends an...

===================

do this - http://launch.dir.groups.yahoo.com/group/xl7/message/21491

then you don't need to consume preset-memory every time you want to assign
a preset going to a sub-out.



> Now I got sub out 1 with turned up gain and bass on the mixer and sounds
> just as good as esi....

==================

my ex-wife is a big fan of hardcore techno. she isn't into gear at all,
but she knows what a TR-909 sounds like. i briefly had a TR-909 and at
first i was really disappointed with it, but as soon as i hooked up a
distortion pedal to the kick-out she came running in and wanted to play
with it! running the XL-ROM 909 kick through external distortion sounds
just as good as the real thing. and with the CC-sub-out trick (above) i
can use the *SAME* 909 preset (no need to save different copies asigned to
different outputs) on a different channel for everything that isn't a
kick... or even split the kit among more than two outputs, and several
outboard fx.



> I guess I took gas-x cuz no more GAS. Now all I need is the cs. Maybe
> I should get an insuran...

=======================

here's the weird thing for me... i have a lot of synths; K5K, fs1r, EX-800
w/ atomohawk, XD-5, homemade 303, etc... and i'm making more music with
this (picture, below) this then i've ever done with all of the gear hooked
up - http://smasher.org/tmp/IMG_0495.JPG

the XL7 is set up so each of the six outputs is a mono send into a rack
effect box. in addition to using CCs to assign the presets to different
outputs, each pattern pans each sound hard-left or hard-right: six
outputs!

the onboard fx don't get used.

--
...atom

________________________
http://atom.smasher.org/
762A 3B98 A3C3 96C9 C6B7 582A B88D 52E4 D9F5 7808
-------------------------------------------------

"The Army is the Indian's best friend."
-- General George Armstron Custer, 1870


Re: [xl7] sub outs, onboard fx, and GAS.

2011-02-28 by Matt

Like I said If I can find one they are 600 on ebay buy it now which seems like a joke.  For that price I can wait for them to re-issue the sp-1200 again.  Or get an emax and a eps.  But then I'm gonna be bloated again.
In the mean time I am riding this CS dragon till I tame her.  I'm LOVING the sub outs.  I'm figuring out cc79 (thanks atom!) and trying to figure out the fx with are STARTING to sound cool as I figure out the sends. 
Your using asr-x for all your sounds now?

On Feb 28, 2011 12:33 AM, "James Ulibarri" <jamesulibarri@gmail.com> wrote:

 

"I guess I took gas-x cuz no more GAS."

What you need to take is gas-asr-X and get one of these bad boys something fierce.




On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 9:54 PM, Matt <somatt@...> wrote:
>
>  
>
>; thank you!! This is aweso...

Re: [xl7] sub outs, onboard fx, and GAS.

2011-02-28 by James Ulibarri

they are not $600 on Ebay, Matt.   Tons of sold on Ebay for less than $300 in the last few weeks.  Don't listen to the hype about the red one being better.  In fact the red one has more bugs than the classic black one.   And regarding the SP1200 re-issue...
It will never happen.  Creative won't sink any money into Emu development like that.  They want to do cheaply made stuff like midi controllers and interfaces with two lousy outs, etc.
Besides it would be a lot more than $600 if they were to do one.  A lot more.    Furthermore it would be technically be a re-issue mkII or mkIII because they have already had a reissue in the 90's after it was discontinued. 



On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Matt <somatt@...> wrote:
 

Like I said If I can find one they are 600 on ebay buy it now which seems like a joke.  For that price I can wait for them to re-issue the sp-1200 again.  Or get an emax and a eps.  But then I'm gonna be bloated again.
In the mean time I am riding this CS dragon till I tame her.  I'm LOVING the sub outs.  I'm figuring out cc79 (thanks atom!) and trying to figure out the fx with are STARTING to sound cool as I figure out the sends. 
Your using asr-x for all your sounds now?

On Feb 28, 2011 12:33 AM, "James Ulibarri" <jamesulibarri@...> wrote:

 

"I guess I took gas-x cuz no more GAS."

What you need to take is gas-asr-X and get one of these bad boys something fierce.




On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 9:54 PM, Matt <somatt@...> wrote:
>
>  
>
> thank you!! This is aweso...


Re: [xl7] sub outs, onboard fx, and GAS.

2011-02-28 by James Ulibarri

yes,  chords and tones from the ASR-X and percussive sounds from the SP1200.
and then bass lines from ASR-X #2 in a few days with the PX-7 spitting midi to both machines. one of the machines will be getting the 8 out upgrade, but not both.
i want to get one of them painted like this one...   sick

http://ghostinmpc.com/?p=219





On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 12:27 PM, James Ulibarri <jamesulibarri@...> wrote:
they are not $600 on Ebay, Matt.   Tons of sold on Ebay for less than $300 in the last few weeks.  Don't listen to the hype about the red one being better.  In fact the red one has more bugs than the classic black one.   And regarding the SP1200 re-issue...
It will never happen.  Creative won't sink any money into Emu development like that.  They want to do cheaply made stuff like midi controllers and interfaces with two lousy outs, etc.
Besides it would be a lot more than $600 if they were to do one.  A lot more.    Furthermore it would be technically be a re-issue mkII or mkIII because they have already had a reissue in the 90';s after it was discontinued. 



On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Matt <somatt@...> wrote:
 

Like I said If I can find one they are 600 on ebay buy it now which seems like a joke.  For that price I can wait for them to re-issue the sp-1200 again.  Or get an emax and a eps.  But then I'm gonna be bloated again.
In the mean time I am riding this CS dragon till I tame her.  I'm LOVING the sub outs.  I'm figuring out cc79 (thanks atom!) and trying to figure out the fx with are STARTING to sound cool as I figure out the sends. 
Your using asr-x for all your sounds now?

On Feb 28, 2011 12:33 AM, "James Ulibarri" <jamesulibarri@...> wrote:

 

"I guess I took gas-x cuz no more GAS."

What you need to take is gas-asr-X and get one of these bad boys something fierce.




On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 9:54 PM, Matt <somatt@...> wrote:
>
>  
>
> thank you!! This is aweso...



Re: sub outs, onboard fx, and GAS.

2011-03-02 by stimresp

As my setup evolves: Currently the sub-outs are used, hard-panned, for 4 mono outs. The digital output goes into a dual channel / multiband compressor. I can route the whole mix through the multiband, or apply individual compression to 2 mono channels (Snare, percussion, etc.). Even better, this setup allows parallel or 'New York' style compression. I can mirror all or some of the drums on a seperate track kit, then bus that track through the compressor at extreme settings, and mix back with the original signal. Big drums! Easily done in software too.

One thing about the FX sends - as only the dry signal leaves the sub outs, it' still possible to use the 4 FX sends, but the wet signal goes to the main outputs. So it's  possible to apply a variable amount of FX to each send, then parallel compressing the wet output with interesting results. I find the CS FX pretty weak overall, but try this with a teeny-tiny amount of reverb before the compressor, or throw in a distorted flange or delay. There's gold to be had in tweaking those busses.

BTW - my SKB case arrived and it's perfect for the Command Station plus 8 rack spaces. I gave-up looking and made my own racks ears for <8euro. Pics: here 



--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, James Ulibarri wrote:
>
> yes, chords and tones from the ASR-X and percussive sounds from the SP1200.
>
> and then bass lines from ASR-X #2 in a few days with the PX-7 spitting midi
> to both machines. one of the machines will be getting the 8 out upgrade, but
> not both.
> i want to get one of them painted like this one... sick
>
> http://ghostinmpc.com/?p=219
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 12:27 PM, James Ulibarri jamesulibarri@...wrote:
>
> > they are not $600 on Ebay, Matt. Tons of sold on Ebay for less than $300
> > in the last few weeks. Don't listen to the hype about the red one being
> > better. In fact the red one has more bugs than the classic black one. And
> > regarding the SP1200 re-issue...
> > It will never happen. Creative won't sink any money into Emu development
> > like that. They want to do cheaply made stuff like midi controllers and
> > interfaces with two lousy outs, etc.
> > Besides it would be a lot more than $600 if they were to do one. A lot
> > more. Furthermore it would be technically be a re-issue mkII or mkIII
> > because they have already had a reissue in the 90's after it was
> > discontinued.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Matt somatt@... wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Like I said If I can find one they are 600 on ebay buy it now which seems
> >> like a joke. For that price I can wait for them to re-issue the sp-1200
> >> again. Or get an emax and a eps. But then I'm gonna be bloated again.
> >> In the mean time I am riding this CS dragon till I tame her. I'm LOVING
> >> the sub outs. I'm figuring out cc79 (thanks atom!) and trying to figure out
> >> the fx with are STARTING to sound cool as I figure out the sends.
> >> Your using asr-x for all your sounds now?
> >>
> >> On Feb 28, 2011 12:33 AM, "James Ulibarri" jamesulibarri@...
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "I guess I took gas-x cuz no more GAS."
> >>
> >> What you need to take is gas-asr-X and get one of these bad boys something
> >> fierce.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>;
> >> On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 9:54 PM, Matt somatt@... wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > thank you!! This is aweso...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>

Re: [xl7] Re: sub outs, onboard fx, and GAS.

2011-03-02 by James Ulibarri

hey nice job.   that case looks really sick with the laptop shelf.
looks very functional too!



On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 6:40 AM, stimresp <stimresp@...> wrote:
 

As my setup evolves: Currently the sub-outs are used, hard-panned, for 4 mono outs. The digital output goes into a dual channel / multiband compressor. I can route the whole mix through the multiband, or apply individual compression to 2 mono channels (Snare, percussion, etc.). Even better, this setup allows parallel or 'New York' style compression. I can mirror all or some of the drums on a seperate track kit, then bus that track through the compressor at extreme settings, and mix back with the original signal. Big drums! Easily done in software too.

One thing about the FX sends - as only the dry signal leaves the sub outs, it' still possible to use the 4 FX sends, but the wet signal goes to the main outputs. So it's  possible to apply a variable amount of FX to each send, then parallel compressing the wet output with interesting results. I find the CS FX pretty weak overall, but try this with a teeny-tiny amount of reverb before the compressor, or throw in a distorted flange or delay. There's gold to be had in tweaking those busses.

BTW - my SKB case arrived and it's perfect for the Command Station plus 8 rack spaces. I gave-up looking and made my own racks ears for <8euro. Pics: here 



--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, James Ulibarri <jamesulibarri@...> wrote:
>
> yes, chords and tones from the ASR-X and percussive sounds from the SP1200.
>
> and then bass lines from ASR-X #2 in a few days with the PX-7 spitting midi
> to both machines. one of the machines will be getting the 8 out upgrade, but
> not both.
> i want to get one of them painted like this one... sick
>
> http://ghostinmpc.com/?p=219
>
>
>;
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 12:27 PM, James Ulibarri jamesulibarri@...wrote:

>
> > they are not $600 on Ebay, Matt. Tons of sold on Ebay for less than $300
> > in the last few weeks. Don't listen to the hype about the red one being
> > better. In fact the red one has more bugs than the classic black one. And
> > regarding the SP1200 re-issue...
> > It will never happen. Creative won't sink any money into Emu development
> > like that. They want to do cheaply made stuff like midi controllers and
> > interfaces with two lousy outs, etc.
> > Besides it would be a lot more than $600 if they were to do one. A lot
> > more. Furthermore it would be technically be a re-issue mkII or mkIII
> > because they have already had a reissue in the 90's after it was
> > discontinued.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Matt somatt@... wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Like I said If I can find one they are 600 on ebay buy it now which seems
> >> like a joke. For that price I can wait for them to re-issue the sp-1200
> >> again. Or get an emax and a eps. But then I'm gonna be bloated again.
> >> In the mean time I am riding this CS dragon till I tame her. I'm LOVING
> >> the sub outs. I'm figuring out cc79 (thanks atom!) and trying to figure out
> >> the fx with are STARTING to sound cool as I figure out the sends.
> >> Your using asr-x for all your sounds now?
> >>
> >> On Feb 28, 2011 12:33 AM, "James Ulibarri" jamesulibarri@...

> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "I guess I took gas-x cuz no more GAS."
> >>
> >> What you need to take is gas-asr-X and get one of these bad boys something
> >> fierce.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 9:54 PM, Matt somatt@... wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >;> > thank you!! This is aweso...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>

Re: [xl7] Re: sub outs, onboard fx, and GAS.

2011-03-03 by TOMTEL

I thought the same thing, really cool the way you made your own rack ears. I don't know why the originals are so hard to find?. I wish somebody would make them. Watch, somebody will probably start selling them on the Bay as we speak. Good job.�
TDogg



--- On Wed, 3/2/11, James Ulibarri wrote:

From: James Ulibarri
Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: sub outs, onboard fx, and GAS.
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, March 2, 2011, 5:38 PM

�

hey nice job.�  that case looks really sick with the laptop shelf.
looks very functional too!



On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 6:40 AM, stimresp <stimresp@...> wrote:
�

As my setup evolves: Currently the sub-outs are used, hard-panned, for 4 mono outs. The digital output goes into a dual channel / multiband compressor. I can route the whole mix through the multiband, or apply individual compression to 2 mono channels (Snare, percussion, etc.). Even better, this setup allows parallel or 'New York' style compression. I can mirror all or some of the drums on a seperate track kit, then bus that track through the compressor at extreme settings, and mix back with the original signal. Big drums! Easily done in software too.

One thing about the FX sends - as only the dry signal leaves the sub outs, it' still possible to use the 4 FX sends, but the wet signal goes to the main outputs. So it's �possible to apply a variable amount of FX to each send, then parallel compressing the wet output with interesting results. I find the CS FX pretty weak overall, but try this with a teeny-tiny amount of reverb before the compressor, or throw in a distorted flange or delay. There's gold to be had in tweaking those busses.

BTW - my SKB case arrived and it's perfect for the Command Station plus 8 rack spaces. I gave-up looking and made my own racks ears for <8euro. Pics: here�



--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, James Ulibarri >
> yes, chords and tones from the ASR-X and percussive sounds from the SP1200.
>
> and then bass lines from ASR-X #2 in a few days with the PX-7 spitting midi
> to both machines. one of the machines will be getting the 8 out upgrade, but
> not both.
> i want to get one of them painted like this one... sick
>
> http://ghostinmpc.com/?p=219
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 12:27 PM, James Ulibarri jamesulibarri@...wrote:

>
> > they are not $600 on Ebay, Matt. Tons of sold on Ebay for less than $300
> > in the last few weeks. Don't listen to the hype about the red one being
> > better. In fact the red one has more bugs than the classic black one. And
> > regarding the SP1200 re-issue...
> > It will never happen. Creative won't sink any money into Emu development
> > like that. They want to do cheaply made stuff like midi controllers and
> > interfaces with two lousy outs, etc.
> > Besides it would be a lot more than $600 if they were to do one. A lot
> > more. Furthermore it would be technically be a re-issue mkII or mkIII
> > because they have already had a reissue in the 90's after it was
> > discontinued.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Matt somatt@... wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Like I said If I can find one they are 600 on ebay buy it now which seems
> >> like a joke. For that price I can wait for them to re-issue the sp-1200
> >> again. Or get an emax and a eps. But then I'm gonna be bloated again.
> >> In the mean time I am riding this CS dragon till I tame her. I'm LOVING
> >> the sub outs. I'm figuring out cc79 (thanks atom!) and trying to figure out
> >> the fx with are STARTING to sound cool as I figure out the sends.
> >> Your using asr-x for all your sounds now?
> >>
> >> On Feb 28, 2011 12:33 AM, "James Ulibarri" jamesulibarri@...

> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >;>
> >> "I guess I took gas-x cuz no more GAS."
> >>
> >> What you need to take is gas-asr-X and get one of these bad boys something
> >> fierce.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 9:54 PM, Matt somatt@... wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > thank you!! This is aweso...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>

Re: rack ears

2011-03-03 by stimresp

Hey thanks. I would still be interested in getting a 'real' pair if they become available. My solution is not the prettiest, but perfectly functional for horizontal placement in the case.

Funny because I didn't even have a hammer to bend the edges - I just bashed them on a step with the back of a monkey wrench. DIY clearly not my forte, however necessity being the mother of invention....
:)




--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, TOMTEL <doggtel@...> wrote:
>
> I thought the same thing, really cool the way you made your own rack ears. I don't know why the originals are so hard to find?. I wish somebody would make them. Watch, somebody will probably start selling them on the Bay as we speak. Good job. TDogg
> 
> 
> --- On Wed, 3/2/11, James Ulibarri <jamesulibarri@...> wrote:
> 
> From: James Ulibarri <jamesulibarri@...>
> Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: sub outs, onboard fx, and GAS.
> To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
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> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, James Ulibarri <jamesulibarri@> wrote:
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> > yes,  chords and tones from the ASR-X and percussive sounds from the SP1200.
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> > and then bass lines from ASR-X #2 in a few days with the PX-7 spitting midi
> > to both machines. one of the machines will be getting the 8 out upgrade, but
> > not both.
> > i want to get one of them painted like this one...   sick
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> > http://ghostinmpc.com/?p=219
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> > On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 12:27 PM, James Ulibarri jamesulibarri@...:
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> > > they are not $600 on Ebay, Matt.   Tons of sold on Ebay for less than $300
> > > in the last few weeks.  Don't listen to the hype about the red one being
> > > better.  In fact the red one has more bugs than the classic black one.   And
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> > > regarding the SP1200 re-issue...
> > > It will never happen.  Creative won't sink any money into Emu development
> > > like that.  They want to do cheaply made stuff like midi controllers and
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> > > interfaces with two lousy outs, etc.
> > > Besides it would be a lot more than $600 if they were to do one.  A lot
> > > more.    Furthermore it would be technically be a re-issue mkII or mkIII
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> > > because they have already had a reissue in the 90's after it was
> > > discontinued.
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> > > On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Matt somatt@ wrote:
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> > >> Like I said If I can find one they are 600 on ebay buy it now which seems
> > >> like a joke.  For that price I can wait for them to re-issue the sp-1200
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> > >> again.  Or get an emax and a eps.  But then I'm gonna be bloated again.
> > >> In the mean time I am riding this CS dragon till I tame her.  I'm LOVING
> > >> the sub outs.  I'm figuring out cc79 (thanks atom!) and trying to figure out
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> > >> the fx with are STARTING to sound cool as I figure out the sends.
> > >> Your using asr-x for all your sounds now?
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> > >> On Feb 28, 2011 12:33 AM, "James Ulibarri" jamesulibarri@
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> > >> "I guess I took gas-x cuz no more GAS."
> > >>
> > >> What you need to take is gas-asr-X and get one of these bad boys something
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> > >> fierce.
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> > >> On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 9:54 PM, Matt somatt@ wrote:
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> > >> > thank you!! This is aweso...
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Re: [xl7] Re: rack ears

2011-03-03 by James Ulibarri

I have some being made that are exactly made to spec as the originals.  Same material and same thickness. I took my originals in and they mocked them up exactly the same.  There is nothing terribly special about the originals.  Each rack ear is actually two pieces that are welded together to make one rack ear and then powder coated black.  







On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 7:23 AM, stimresp <stimresp@...> wrote:
 


Hey thanks. I would still be interested in getting a 'real' pair if they become available. My solution is not the prettiest, but perfectly functional for horizontal placement in the case.

Funny because I didn't even have a hammer to bend the edges - I just bashed them on a step with the back of a monkey wrench. DIY clearly not my forte, however necessity being the mother of invention....
:)

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, TOMTEL wrote:
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> I thought the same thing, really cool the way you made your own rack ears. I don't know why the originals are so hard to find?. I wish somebody would make them. Watch, somebody will probably start selling them on the Bay as we speak. Good job. TDogg
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> --- On Wed, 3/2/11, James Ulibarri wrote:
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> From: James Ulibarri
> Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: sub outs, onboard fx, and GAS.
> To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, March 2, 2011, 5:38 PM
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> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, James Ulibarri wrote:
> >
> > yes, chords and tones from the ASR-X and percussive sounds from the SP1200.
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> >
> > and then bass lines from ASR-X #2 in a few days with the PX-7 spitting midi
> > to both machines. one of the machines will be getting the 8 out upgrade, but
> > not both.
> > i want to get one of them painted like this one... sick
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> > http://ghostinmpc.com/?p=219
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> > On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 12:27 PM, James Ulibarri jamesulibarri@...:
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> >; > they are not $600 on Ebay, Matt. Tons of sold on Ebay for less than $300
> > > in the last few weeks. Don't listen to the hype about the red one being
> > > better. In fact the red one has more bugs than the classic black one. And
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> > > regarding the SP1200 re-issue...
> > > It will never happen. Creative won't sink any money into Emu development
> > >; like that. They want to do cheaply made stuff like midi controllers and
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> > > interfaces with two lousy outs, etc.
> > > Besides it would be a lot more than $600 if they were to do one. A lot
> > > more. Furthermore it would be technically be a re-issue mkII or mkIII
>
> > > because they have already had a reissue in the 90's after it was
> > > discontinued.
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> > > On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Matt somatt@ wrote:
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> > >> Like I said If I can find one they are 600 on ebay buy it now which seems
> > >> like a joke. For that price I can wait for them to re-issue the sp-1200
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> > >> again. Or get an emax and a eps. But then I'm gonna be bloated again.
> > >> In the mean time I am riding this CS dragon till I tame her. I9;m LOVING
> > >> the sub outs. I'm figuring out cc79 (thanks atom!) and trying to figure out
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> > >> the fx with are STARTING to sound cool as I figure out the sends.
> > >> Your using asr-x for all your sounds now?
> > >>;
> > >> On Feb 28, 2011 12:33 AM, "James Ulibarri" jamesulibarri@
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> > >>
> > >> What you need to take is gas-asr-X and get one of these bad boys something
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rack ears

2011-05-15 by James Ulibarri

someone is selling a pair on ebay right now..

Re: [xl7] rack ears

2011-05-15 by James Ulibarri

And you are right! ��

Sent from my iPhone

On May 14, 2011, at 10:19 PM, "Bob S." <tttsystems@...> wrote:

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...and you are the seller !
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 21:23
Subject: [xl7] rack ears

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someone is selling a pair on ebay right now..

Re: rack ears

2011-05-15 by steve_the_composer

"James, James," he said with a mock-patronizing voice and a tongue-in-cheek grin. "I am sooooo disappointed in you. You have been soooooo good lately. But to offer something for sale here especially in such a sneaky way after saying you wouldn't try to sell anything more here, is more than I can handle without calling you on this one."

steve_the_tongue-in-cheek_guy


PS: Kudos to Bob S. for spotting the intended deception.

steve_the_greatful



--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, James Ulibarri <jamesulibarri@...> wrote:
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> And you are right!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 14, 2011, at 10:19 PM, "Bob S." <tttsystems@...> wrote:
> 
> > ...and you are the seller !
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: James Ulibarri
> > To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 21:23
> > Subject: [xl7] rack ears
> >
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> > someone is selling a pair on ebay right now..
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>

Re: [xl7] Re: rack ears

2011-05-15 by James Ulibarri

Ummmm, the deception?   I don't freakin think so.  Whom am I am trying to intentionally deceive as you put it?  I said "someone" is selling rack ears on Ebay.  As a cute quick informative one liner for someone to snag them.  Why would it matter if it were me or anyone else?   If anything,  I would be doing the forum a favor because the topic of people wanting rack ears comes up from time to time as people seem to be looking for them.  And why is it that my posts are always under so much scrutiny?   Not that I care what you say Steve, Greg W, or Bob for that matter.  So Bob is some type of freakin hero?  For what??   And also what do you mean I have been good lately?   Dude, do you think I care?  I can't get away from this forum fast enough...  Not walk, but RUN. Look, I do not have this problem in the Emax, EII, EIII, and EIIIforum, or the Studio 440 forums.  It's just this particular one.   It9;s just this pain in the ass, hovering femme energy in here, that just rubs me sooo incredibly wrong sometimes.   It's a bunch of guys incredibly passionate about a box that doesn't even count in real world of Emu hardware.  You just don't get it do you?     It's this feeling here that I can cut with a knife.  It makes me want to barf everything I ever ate.. And it's only from a few guys, not everyone.  It makes me want to come up swinging.  Do me a favor Steve and quit commenting on my posts.  You're really annoying to be honest.  Last week you're like "did anyone catch that, huh huh"... "he didn9;t sell it for $395, wow guys what are we gonna do? huh huh".  And no one responded... because no one cared.  That's the bottom line.    Is this your way of being funny and cute?  Because it's retarded.

Steve, quit watching my every move, and move on.  And before you say it... I don't need your permission or blessing to stay or leave.  I'll leave when I want to leave.

Have a good day.





On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 6:09 AM, steve_the_composer <smw-mail@...> wrote:
 

"James, James," he said with a mock-patronizing voice and a tongue-in-cheek grin. "I am sooooo disappointed in you. You have been soooooo good lately. But to offer something for sale here especially in such a sneaky way after saying you wouldn't try to sell anything more here, is more than I can handle without calling you on this one."

steve_the_tongue-in-cheek_guy

PS: Kudos to Bob S. for spotting the intended deception.

steve_the_greatful



--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, James Ulibarri wrote:
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> And you are right!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 14, 2011, at 10:19 PM, "Bob S." wrote:
>
> > ...and you are the seller !
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
>; > From: James Ulibarri
> > To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 21:23
> > Subject: [xl7] rack ears
> >
> >
> > someone is selling a pair on ebay right now..
> >
> >
>


Re: [xl7] Re: rack ears

2011-05-15 by James Ulibarri

I meant $450, not $395.   But the rest I meant..




On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 7:23 AM, James Ulibarri <jamesulibarri@...> wrote:
Ummmm, the deception?   I don't freakin think so.  Whom am I am trying to intentionally deceive as you put it?  I said "someone" is selling rack ears on Ebay.  As a cute quick informative one liner for someone to snag them.  Why would it matter if it were me or anyone else?   If anything,  I would be doing the forum a favor because the topic of people wanting rack ears comes up from time to time as people seem to be looking for them.  And why is it that my posts are always under so much scrutiny?   Not that I care what you say Steve, Greg W, or Bob for that matter.  So Bob is some type of freakin hero?  For what??   And also what do you mean I have been good lately?   Dude, do you think I care?  I can't get away from this forum fast enough...  Not walk, but RUN. Look, I do not have this problem in the Emax, EII, EIII, and EIIIforum, or the Studio 440 forums.  It's just this particular one.   It's just this pain in the ass, hovering femme energy in here, that just rubs me sooo incredibly wrong sometimes.   It's a bunch of guys incredibly passionate about a box that doesn't even count in real world of Emu hardware.  You just don't get it do you?     It's this feeling here that I can cut with a knife.  It makes me want to barf everything I ever ate.. And it's only from a few guys, not everyone.  It makes me want to come up swinging.  Do me a favor Steve and quit commenting on my posts.  You're really annoying to be honest.  Last week you're like "did anyone catch that, huh huh"... "he didn't sell it for $395, wow guys what are we gonna do? huh huh".  And no one responded... because no one cared.  That's the bottom line.    Is this your way of being funny and cute?  Because it's retarded.

Steve, quit watching my every move, and move on.  And before you say it... I don't need your permission or blessing to stay or leave.  I'll leave when I want to leave.

Have a good day.





On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 6:09 AM, steve_the_composer <smw-mail@...> wrote:
 

"James, James," he said with a mock-patronizing voice and a tongue-in-cheek grin. "I am sooooo disappointed in you. You have been soooooo good lately. But to offer something for sale here especially in such a sneaky way after saying you wouldn't try to sell anything more here, is more than I can handle without calling you on this one."

steve_the_tongue-in-cheek_guy

PS: Kudos to Bob S. for spotting the intended deception.

steve_the_greatful



--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, James Ulibarri wrote:
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> And you are right!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 14, 2011, at 10:19 PM, "Bob S." wrote:
>
> > ...and you are the seller !
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: James Ulibarri
> > To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 21:23
> > Subject: [xl7] rack ears
> >
> >
> > someone is selling a pair on ebay right now..
> >
> >
>



Re: rack ears

2011-05-15 by stimresp

Are you still here?

</Troll>


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, James Ulibarri <jamesulibarri@...> wrote:
>
> I meant $450, not $395.   But the rest I meant..
> 
> </rant>
> 
> 
> On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 7:23 AM, James Ulibarri <jamesulibarri@...>wrote:
> 
> > Ummmm, the deception?   I don't freakin think so.  Whom am I am trying to
> > intentionally deceive as you put it?  I said "someone" is selling rack ears
> > on Ebay.  As a cute quick informative one liner for someone to snag them.
> > Why would it matter if it were me or anyone else?   If anything,  I would be
> > doing the forum a favor because the topic of people wanting rack ears comes
> > up from time to time as people seem to be looking for them.  And why is it
> > that my posts are always under so much scrutiny?   Not that I care what you
> > say Steve, Greg W, or Bob for that matter.  So Bob is some type of freakin
> > hero?  For what??   And also what do you mean I have been good lately?
> > Dude, do you think I care?  I can't get away from this forum fast enough...
> > Not walk, but RUN. Look, I do not have this problem in the Emax, EII, EIII,
> > and EIIIforum, or the Studio 440 forums.  It's just this particular one.
> > It's just this pain in the ass, hovering femme energy in here, that just
> > rubs me sooo incredibly wrong sometimes.   It's a bunch of guys incredibly
> > passionate about a box that doesn't even count in real world of Emu
> > hardware.  You just don't get it do you?     It's this feeling here that I
> > can cut with a knife.  It makes me want to barf everything I ever ate.. And
> > it's only from a few guys, not everyone.  It makes me want to come up
> > swinging.  Do me a favor Steve and quit commenting on my posts.  You're
> > really annoying to be honest.  Last week you're like "did anyone catch that,
> > huh huh"... "he didn't sell it for $395, wow guys what are we gonna do? huh
> > huh".  And no one responded... because no one cared.  That's the bottom
> > line.    Is this your way of being funny and cute?  Because it's retarded.
> >
> > Steve, quit watching my every move, and move on.  And before you say it...
> > I don't need your permission or blessing to stay or leave.  I'll leave when
> > I want to leave.
> >
> > Have a good day.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 6:09 AM, steve_the_composer <smw-mail@...>wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> "James, James," he said with a mock-patronizing voice and a
> >> tongue-in-cheek grin. "I am sooooo disappointed in you. You have been
> >> soooooo good lately. But to offer something for sale here especially in such
> >> a sneaky way after saying you wouldn't try to sell anything more here, is
> >> more than I can handle without calling you on this one."
> >>
> >> steve_the_tongue-in-cheek_guy
> >>
> >> PS: Kudos to Bob S. for spotting the intended deception.
> >>
> >> steve_the_greatful
> >>
> >>
> >> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, James Ulibarri <jamesulibarri@> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > And you are right!
> >> >
> >> > Sent from my iPhone
> >> >
> >> > On May 14, 2011, at 10:19 PM, "Bob S." <tttsystems@> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > ...and you are the seller !
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > From: James Ulibarri
> >> > > To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> >> > > Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 21:23
> >> > > Subject: [xl7] rack ears
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > someone is selling a pair on ebay right now..
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >>  
> >>
> >
> >
>

Re: rack ears

2011-05-15 by dutchbeats

james face it, your the chris lago of the xl-7 group! lol (i kid). or maybe the space2012/dubai/goldmember.....unless you're not regularly on gearslutz and miss the analogy : )

also, let the man peddle his wares here in peace! that's always been encouraged in support groups.

speaking of which, in regards to james' prices. i myself was taken aback by them at first but then i went to my local craigslist. i learned that the prices are definitely regional and nothing to get worked up about. in the toronto craigs a fully restored eiii keyboard was recently listed for $850, an emax hd keyboard is going for $40 and an s900 for $60 obo. in los angeles or new york i think the prices would definitely be higher.







--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, James Ulibarri <jamesulibarri@...> wrote:
>
> Ummmm, the deception?   I don't freakin think so.  Whom am I am trying to
> intentionally deceive as you put it?  I said "someone" is selling rack ears
> on Ebay.  As a cute quick informative one liner for someone to snag them.
> Why would it matter if it were me or anyone else?   If anything,  I would be
> doing the forum a favor because the topic of people wanting rack ears comes
> up from time to time as people seem to be looking for them.  And why is it
> that my posts are always under so much scrutiny?   Not that I care what you
> say Steve, Greg W, or Bob for that matter.  So Bob is some type of freakin
> hero?  For what??   And also what do you mean I have been good lately?
> Dude, do you think I care?  I can't get away from this forum fast enough...
> Not walk, but RUN. Look, I do not have this problem in the Emax, EII, EIII,
> and EIIIforum, or the Studio 440 forums.  It's just this particular one.
> It's just this pain in the ass, hovering femme energy in here, that just
> rubs me sooo incredibly wrong sometimes.   It's a bunch of guys incredibly
> passionate about a box that doesn't even count in real world of Emu
> hardware.  You just don't get it do you?     It's this feeling here that I
> can cut with a knife.  It makes me want to barf everything I ever ate.. And
> it's only from a few guys, not everyone.  It makes me want to come up
> swinging.  Do me a favor Steve and quit commenting on my posts.  You're
> really annoying to be honest.  Last week you're like "did anyone catch that,
> huh huh"... "he didn't sell it for $395, wow guys what are we gonna do? huh
> huh".  And no one responded... because no one cared.  That's the bottom
> line.    Is this your way of being funny and cute?  Because it's retarded.
> 
> Steve, quit watching my every move, and move on.  And before you say it... I
> don't need your permission or blessing to stay or leave.  I'll leave when I
> want to leave.
> 
> Have a good day.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 6:09 AM, steve_the_composer <smw-mail@...>wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > "James, James," he said with a mock-patronizing voice and a tongue-in-cheek
> > grin. "I am sooooo disappointed in you. You have been soooooo good lately.
> > But to offer something for sale here especially in such a sneaky way after
> > saying you wouldn't try to sell anything more here, is more than I can
> > handle without calling you on this one."
> >
> > steve_the_tongue-in-cheek_guy
> >
> > PS: Kudos to Bob S. for spotting the intended deception.
> >
> > steve_the_greatful
> >
> >
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, James Ulibarri <jamesulibarri@> wrote:
> > >
> > > And you are right!
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > On May 14, 2011, at 10:19 PM, "Bob S." <tttsystems@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > ...and you are the seller !
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: James Ulibarri
> > > > To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 21:23
> > > > Subject: [xl7] rack ears
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > someone is selling a pair on ebay right now..
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >  
> >
>

Re: [xl7] Re: rack ears

2011-05-15 by James Ulibarri

Dutch, that's funny! �


Sent from my iPhone

On May 15, 2011, at 8:46 AM, "dutchbeats" <dutchbeats@yahoo.ca> wrote:

�

james face it, your the chris lago of the xl-7 group! lol (i kid). or maybe the space2012/dubai/goldmember.....unless you're not regularly on gearslutz and miss the analogy : )

also, let the man peddle his wares here in peace! that's always been encouraged in support groups.

speaking of which, in regards to james' prices. i myself was taken aback by them at first but then i went to my local craigslist. i learned that the prices are definitely regional and nothing to get worked up about. in the toronto craigs a fully restored eiii keyboard was recently listed for $850, an emax hd keyboard is going for $40 and an s900 for $60 obo. in los angeles or new york i think the prices would definitely be higher.

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, James Ulibarri <jamesulibarri@...> wrote:
>
> Ummmm, the deception? I don't freakin think so. Whom am I am trying to
> intentionally deceive as you put it? I said "someone" is selling rack ears
> on Ebay. As a cute quick informative one liner for someone to snag them.
> Why would it matter if it were me or anyone else? If anything, I would be
> doing the forum a favor because the topic of people wanting rack ears comes
> up from time to time as people seem to be looking for them. And why is it
> that my posts are always under so much scrutiny? Not that I care what you
> say Steve, Greg W, or Bob for that matter. So Bob is some type of freakin
> hero? For what?? And also what do you mean I have been good lately?
> Dude, do you think I care? I can't get away from this forum fast enough...
> Not walk, but RUN. Look, I do not have this problem in the Emax, EII, EIII,
> and EIIIforum, or the Studio 440 forums. It's just this particular one.
> It's just this pain in the ass, hovering femme energy in here, that just
> rubs me sooo incredibly wrong sometimes. It's a bunch of guys incredibly
> passionate about a box that doesn't even count in real world of Emu
> hardware. You just don't get it do you? It's this feeling here that I
> can cut with a knife. It makes me want to barf everything I ever ate.. And
> it's only from a few guys, not everyone. It makes me want to come up
> swinging. Do me a favor Steve and quit commenting on my posts. You're
> really annoying to be honest. Last week you're like "did anyone catch that,
> huh huh"... "he didn't sell it for $395, wow guys what are we gonna do? huh
> huh". And no one responded... because no one cared. That's the bottom
> line. Is this your way of being funny and cute? Because it's retarded.
>
> Steve, quit watching my every move, and move on. And before you say it... I
> don't need your permission or blessing to stay or leave. I'll leave when I
> want to leave.
>
> Have a good day.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 6:09 AM, steve_the_composer >
> >
> >
> > "James, James," he said with a mock-patronizing voice and a tongue-in-cheek
> > grin. "I am sooooo disappointed in you. You have been soooooo good lately.
> > But to offer something for sale here especially in such a sneaky way after
> > saying you wouldn't try to sell anything more here, is more than I can
> > handle without calling you on this one."
> >
> > steve_the_tongue-in-cheek_guy
> >;
> > PS: Kudos to Bob S. for spotting the intended deception.
> >
> > steve_the_greatful
> >
> >
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, James Ulibarri wrote:
> > >
> > > And you are right!
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> >; >
> > > On May 14, 2011, at 10:19 PM, "Bob S." wrote:
> > >
> > > > ...and you are the seller !
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: James Ulibarri
> > > > To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 21:23
> > > > Subject: [xl7] rack ears
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > someone is selling a pair on ebay right now..
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >;
> >
> >
>

Re: [xl7] Re: rack ears

2011-05-15 by Mibrilane

On May 15, 2011, at 6:23 AM, James Ulibarri wrote:

It's a bunch of guys incredibly passionate about a box that doesn't even count in real world of Emu hardware.  You just don't get it do you?

Ignoring the rest of your rant, I am curious as to why you feel that the XL-7 somehow isn’t authentically E-mu. It’s a natural descendant of technology from the Proteus 2000, which in turn was evolved from the Morpheus, which in turn evolved from the Proteus modules, which evolved from the Emulator III... How is it that the XL-7 “doesn’t even count in [the] real world of E-mu hardware” if there is no break in lineage that puts the Command Stations outside of the stream of “authentic” E-mu development?

This isn’t the whole color thing again, is it?

Mibrilane
mibrilane@...

Re: [xl7] Re: rack ears

2011-05-15 by James Ulibarri

I've already started on another one.  So don't take that to heart.
I still dig the Creative Command Station just fine. � Next one will be Drumulator greyish blue from 1983 or matte black. �It's gotta go to the UK tho. � � �



Sent from my iPhone

On May 15, 2011, at 10:44 AM, Mibrilane <mibrilane@...> wrote:

�

On May 15, 2011, at 6:23 AM, James Ulibarri wrote:

It's a�bunch of guys incredibly passionate about a box that doesn't even count in real world of Emu hardware. �You just don't get it do you?

Ignoring the rest of your rant, I am curious as to why you feel that the XL-7 somehow isn’t authentically E-mu. It’s a natural descendant of technology from the Proteus 2000, which in turn was evolved from the Morpheus, which in turn evolved from the Proteus modules, which evolved from the Emulator III... How is it that the XL-7 “doesn’t even count in [the] real world of E-mu hardware” if there is no break in lineage that puts the Command Stations outside of the stream of “authentic” E-mu development?

This isn’t the whole color thing again, is it?

Mibrilane
mibrilane@...

Re: rack ears

2011-05-16 by dutchbeats

the song mode bugs(bugs, and more bugs grrrr)/limitations and propensity to crash make it difficult to work with on a professional and detailed level. i've never owned an mpc but from what i've read in these aspects they are quite succinct compared to the e-mu? unless again my machine is faulty(just tell me it's my machine so i can buy another one already!)

speaking of which:

i use the command station for sequencing a sampler and recently started setting all of those tracks to the blank default preset at the end of the preset list before saving. but after reloading the pattern later, the presets are switched back to their original settings, even though there is midi data saved to the track. the channel routings are as i left them, but the presets are reverted back. 

however, i go to the first of those tracks and switch the preset back to the blank default preset and somehow magically by doing this all of the rest of those sampler tracks switch back to default as well. weird eh?

what's weirder is, once i do this and revert the tracks to default preset, if i revert to saved pattern and reload the pattern i won't have to do it again! they will be already all on blank default presets. so only after rebooting the cs will i have to revert the tracks back.

or maybe you can't save a track with no preset on it, like you can save whatever preset you want to a track and it will remember it but not with the last default one?



sorry for the thread jack :p

 

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Mibrilane <mibrilane@...> wrote:
>
> On May 15, 2011, at 6:23 AM, James Ulibarri wrote:
> 
> > It's a bunch of guys incredibly passionate about a box that doesn't even count in real world of Emu hardware.  You just don't get it do you?
> 
> Ignoring the rest of your rant, I am curious as to why you feel that the XL-7 somehow isn't authentically E-mu. It's a natural descendant of technology from the Proteus 2000, which in turn was evolved from the Morpheus, which in turn evolved from the Proteus modules, which evolved from the Emulator III... How is it that the XL-7 "doesn't even count in [the] real world of E-mu hardware" if there is no break in lineage that puts the Command Stations outside of the stream of "authentic" E-mu development?
> 
> This isn't the whole color thing again, is it?
> 
> Mibrilane
> mibrilane@...
>

Re: [xl7] Re: rack ears

2011-05-16 by Mibrilane


On 5/15/11 6:53 PM, "dutchbeats" <dutchbeats@yahoo.ca> wrote:

�

the song mode bugs(bugs, and more bugs grrrr)/limitations and propensity to crash make it difficult to work with on a professional and detailed level. i've never owned an mpc but from what i've read in these aspects they are quite succinct compared to the e-mu? unless again my machine is faulty(just tell me it's my machine so i can buy another one already!

Maybe I've been lucky, but I've never had a Command Station crash on me. Then again, I've never really gone beyond hobbyist noodling and haven't really used song mode all that much.


 speaking of which:

i use the command station for sequencing a sampler and recently started setting all of those tracks to the blank default preset at the end of the preset list before saving. but after reloading the pattern later, the presets are switched back to their original settings, even though there is midi data saved to the track. the channel routings are as i left them, but the presets are reverted back.

however, i go to the first of those tracks and switch the preset back to the blank default preset and somehow magically by doing this all of the rest of those sampler tracks switch back to default as well. weird eh?

what's weirder is, once i do this and revert the tracks to default preset, if i revert to saved pattern and reload the pattern i won't have to do it again! they will be already all on blank default presets. so only after rebooting the cs will i have to revert the tracks back.

or maybe you can't save a track with no preset on it, like you can save whatever preset you want to a track and it will remember it but not with the last default one?

That is indeed weird. I wonder if that only happens when using the ROM "Default v1.0" patch. Have you tried using the�V2.0 blank preset from the�Blank V2.0 preset Banks.zip in the Files area?

Mibrilane
mibrilane@...t

[xl7] bugginess loading pattern with default preset on each channel

2011-05-16 by Mibrilane

(Ugh, converted from Apple Mail to Microsoft Outlook 2011 today and it
would seem the formatting of its HTML mail gets fracked by Yahoo Groups.
Let's see if I can plain text this instead. Taking this opportunity to
change the post subject as well.)

> 
>On 5/15/11 6:53 PM, "dutchbeats" <dutchbeats@...> wrote:
>   
>the song mode bugs(bugs, and more bugs grrrr)/limitations and propensity
>to crash make it difficult to work with on a professional and detailed
>level. i've never owned an mpc but from what i've read in these aspects
>they are quite succinct compared to the e-mu? unless again my machine is
>faulty(just tell me it's my machine so i can buy another one already!

Maybe I've been lucky, but I've never had a Command Station crash on me.
Then again, I've never really gone beyond hobbyist noodling and haven't
really used song mode all that much.


>speaking of which:
>
>i use the command station for sequencing a sampler and recently started
>setting all of those tracks to the blank default preset at the end of the
>preset list before saving. but after reloading the pattern later, the
>presets are switched back to their original settings, even though there
>is midi data saved to the track. the channel routings are as i left them,
>but the presets are reverted back.
>
>however, i go to the first of those tracks and switch the preset back to
>the blank default preset and somehow magically by doing this all of the
>rest of those sampler tracks switch back to default as well. weird eh?
>
>what's weirder is, once i do this and revert the tracks to default
>preset, if i revert to saved pattern and reload the pattern i won't have
>to do it again! they will be already all on blank default presets. so
>only after rebooting the cs will i have to revert the tracks back.
>
>or maybe you can't save a track with no preset on it, like you can save
>whatever preset you want to a track and it will remember it but not with
>the last default one?

That is indeed weird. I wonder if that only happens when using the ROM
"Default v1.0" patch. Have you tried using the V2.0 blank preset from the
Blank V2.0 preset Banks.zip in the Files area?


Mibrilane
mibrilane@...

Re: rack ears

2011-05-16 by dutchbeats

thanks mibrilane that is a good idea. although i would have to learn sysex transfers first ; /

i forgot to add that it did the same thing to me with internal tracks also. i saved a few notes played on tracks 1 and 2 with internal presets and when i reloaded the pattern the note data was there but the presets were switched back to the originals.

i was messing with multisetups recently so maybe there is a global setting i changed? is it possible the machine would behave like this because of a bad psu or something mechanical?

thanks!



--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Mibrilane <mibrilane@...> wrote:
>
> 
> > On 5/15/11 6:53 PM, "dutchbeats" <dutchbeats@...> wrote:
> > 
> >  
> >  
> >  
> >    
> > 
> > the song mode bugs(bugs, and more bugs grrrr)/limitations and propensity to
> > crash make it difficult to work with on a professional and detailed level.
> > i've never owned an mpc but from what i've read in these aspects they are
> > quite succinct compared to the e-mu? unless again my machine is faulty(just
> > tell me it's my machine so i can buy another one already!
> 
> Maybe I've been lucky, but I've never had a Command Station crash on me.
> Then again, I've never really gone beyond hobbyist noodling and haven't
> really used song mode all that much.
> > 
> > speaking of which:
> > 
> > i use the command station for sequencing a sampler and recently started
> > setting all of those tracks to the blank default preset at the end of the
> > preset list before saving. but after reloading the pattern later, the presets
> > are switched back to their original settings, even though there is midi data
> > saved to the track. the channel routings are as i left them, but the presets
> > are reverted back.
> > 
> > however, i go to the first of those tracks and switch the preset back to the
> > blank default preset and somehow magically by doing this all of the rest of
> > those sampler tracks switch back to default as well. weird eh?
> > 
> > what's weirder is, once i do this and revert the tracks to default preset, if
> > i revert to saved pattern and reload the pattern i won't have to do it again!
> > they will be already all on blank default presets. so only after rebooting the
> > cs will i have to revert the tracks back.
> > 
> > or maybe you can't save a track with no preset on it, like you can save
> > whatever preset you want to a track and it will remember it but not with the
> > last default one?
> 
> That is indeed weird. I wonder if that only happens when using the ROM
> "Default v1.0" patch. Have you tried using the V2.0 blank preset from the
> Blank V2.0 preset Banks.zip
> <http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/IIXQTYixt78sfAmUzomegFOiYMhk5D0CcGCKydE2bJ1R2r
> B7TTu1dBE-63JPdSizvsrfvBi7tUDrryc04EU6SHhJUiq-Rkc/Command%20Station%20Data/B
> lank%20V2.0%20preset%20Banks.zip>  in the Files area?
> 
> Mibrilane
> mibrilane@...
>

Re: [xl7] Re: rack ears

2011-05-16 by James Ulibarri

I have had similar results with a PX-7 a couple years ago.  Have you tried resetting the machine?  That always worked for me.  I think the CS needs to be reset every few months.
Removing the roms actually made the unit more stable too.  Go totally commando and don't use any.



On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 10:32 PM, dutchbeats <dutchbeats@...> wrote:
 

thanks mibrilane that is a good idea. although i would have to learn sysex transfers first ; /

i forgot to add that it did the same thing to me with internal tracks also. i saved a few notes played on tracks 1 and 2 with internal presets and when i reloaded the pattern the note data was there but the presets were switched back to the originals.

i was messing with multisetups recently so maybe there is a global setting i changed? is it possible the machine would behave like this because of a bad psu or something mechanical?

thanks!



--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Mibrilane wrote:
>
>
> > On 5/15/11 6:53 PM, "dutchbeats" > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > the song mode bugs(bugs, and more bugs grrrr)/limitations and propensity to
> > crash make it difficult to work with on a professional and detailed level.
> > i've never owned an mpc but from what i've read in these aspects they are
> > quite succinct compared to the e-mu? unless again my machine is faulty(just
> > tell me it's my machine so i can buy another one already!
>
> Maybe I've been lucky, but I've never had a Command Station crash on me.
> Then again, I've never really gone beyond hobbyist noodling and haven't
> really used song mode all that much.
> >
> > speaking of which:
> >
> > i use the command station for sequencing a sampler and recently started
> > setting all of those tracks to the blank default preset at the end of the
> > preset list before saving. but after reloading the pattern later, the presets
> > are switched back to their original settings, even though there is midi data
> > saved to the track. the channel routings are as i left them, but the presets
> > are reverted back.
> >
> > however, i go to the first of those tracks and switch the preset back to the
> > blank default preset and somehow magically by doing this all of the rest of
> > those sampler tracks switch back to default as well. weird eh?
> >
> > what's weirder is, once i do this and revert the tracks to default preset, if
> > i revert to saved pattern and reload the pattern i won't have to do it again!
> > they will be already all on blank default presets. so only after rebooting the
> > cs will i have to revert the tracks back.
> >
> > or maybe you can't save a track with no preset on it, like you can save
> > whatever preset you want to a track and it will remember it but not with the
> > last default one?
>
> That is indeed weird. I wonder if that only happens when using the ROM
> "Default v1.0" patch. Have you tried using the V2.0 blank preset from the
> Blank V2.0 preset Banks.zip
> <http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/IIXQTYixt78sfAmUzomegFOiYMhk5D0CcGCKydE2bJ1R2r
> B7TTu1dBE-63JPdSizvsrfvBi7tUDrryc04EU6SHhJUiq-Rkc/Command%20Station%20Data/B
> lank%20V2.0%20preset%20Banks.zip> in the Files area?
>
> Mibrilane
> mibrilane@...
>


Re: [xl7] Re: rack ears

2011-05-16 by Greg W

Beep beep beep WARNING online meltdown!



Dont bring my name in again wanker.





From: Mibrilane
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, 15 May, 2011 10:44:38 AM
Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: rack ears

�

On May 15, 2011, at 6:23 AM, James Ulibarri wrote:

It's a�bunch of guys incredibly passionate about a box that doesn't even count in real world of Emu hardware. �You just don't get it do you?

Ignoring the rest of your rant, I am curious as to why you feel that the XL-7 somehow isn’t authentically E-mu. It’s a natural descendant of technology from the Proteus 2000, which in turn was evolved from the Morpheus, which in turn evolved from the Proteus modules, which evolved from the Emulator III... How is it that the XL-7 “doesn’t even count in [the] real world of E-mu hardware” if there is no break in lineage that puts the Command Stations outside of the stream of “authentic” E-mu development?

This isn’t the whole color thing again, is it?

Mibrilane
mibrilane@...

Re: rack ears

2011-05-16 by dutchbeats

lol that'll learn it! seriously though i'd have to learn sysex to get my saved presets off of the machine first before i did a reset. now you have me curious. 




--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, James Ulibarri <jamesulibarri@...> wrote:
>
> I have had similar results with a PX-7 a couple years ago.  Have you tried
> resetting the machine?  That always worked for me.  I think the CS needs to
> be reset every few months.
> Removing the roms actually made the unit more stable too.  Go totally
> commando and don't use any.
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 10:32 PM, dutchbeats <dutchbeats@...> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > thanks mibrilane that is a good idea. although i would have to learn sysex
> > transfers first ; /
> >
> > i forgot to add that it did the same thing to me with internal tracks also.
> > i saved a few notes played on tracks 1 and 2 with internal presets and when
> > i reloaded the pattern the note data was there but the presets were switched
> > back to the originals.
> >
> > i was messing with multisetups recently so maybe there is a global setting
> > i changed? is it possible the machine would behave like this because of a
> > bad psu or something mechanical?
> >
> > thanks!
> >
> >
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Mibrilane <mibrilane@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > On 5/15/11 6:53 PM, "dutchbeats" <dutchbeats@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > the song mode bugs(bugs, and more bugs grrrr)/limitations and
> > propensity to
> > > > crash make it difficult to work with on a professional and detailed
> > level.
> > > > i've never owned an mpc but from what i've read in these aspects they
> > are
> > > > quite succinct compared to the e-mu? unless again my machine is
> > faulty(just
> > > > tell me it's my machine so i can buy another one already!
> > >
> > > Maybe I've been lucky, but I've never had a Command Station crash on me.
> > > Then again, I've never really gone beyond hobbyist noodling and haven't
> > > really used song mode all that much.
> > > >
> > > > speaking of which:
> > > >
> > > > i use the command station for sequencing a sampler and recently started
> > > > setting all of those tracks to the blank default preset at the end of
> > the
> > > > preset list before saving. but after reloading the pattern later, the
> > presets
> > > > are switched back to their original settings, even though there is midi
> > data
> > > > saved to the track. the channel routings are as i left them, but the
> > presets
> > > > are reverted back.
> > > >
> > > > however, i go to the first of those tracks and switch the preset back
> > to the
> > > > blank default preset and somehow magically by doing this all of the
> > rest of
> > > > those sampler tracks switch back to default as well. weird eh?
> > > >
> > > > what's weirder is, once i do this and revert the tracks to default
> > preset, if
> > > > i revert to saved pattern and reload the pattern i won't have to do it
> > again!
> > > > they will be already all on blank default presets. so only after
> > rebooting the
> > > > cs will i have to revert the tracks back.
> > > >
> > > > or maybe you can't save a track with no preset on it, like you can save
> > > > whatever preset you want to a track and it will remember it but not
> > with the
> > > > last default one?
> > >
> > > That is indeed weird. I wonder if that only happens when using the ROM
> > > "Default v1.0" patch. Have you tried using the V2.0 blank preset from the
> > > Blank V2.0 preset Banks.zip
> > > <
> > http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/IIXQTYixt78sfAmUzomegFOiYMhk5D0CcGCKydE2bJ1R2r
> > >
> > B7TTu1dBE-63JPdSizvsrfvBi7tUDrryc04EU6SHhJUiq-Rkc/Command%20Station%20Data/B
> > > lank%20V2.0%20preset%20Banks.zip> in the Files area?
> > >
> > > Mibrilane
> > > mibrilane@
> > >
> >
> >  
> >
>

Re: [xl7] Re: rack ears

2011-05-16 by James Ulibarri

why would you have to learn sysex?  Can't you just use E-loader to back up your presets?
Or use a Yamaha data filer.  They're cheap on Ebay.   I don't know.  I'm not a power user of the CS.  It's a love / hate relationship with it.    I'll probably get a Europa sequencer next to use with my Forat F16.  It's gonna be tits.   Shuffle for days.  Real shuffle too, not this pseudo kinda shuffling thing with a certain sequencer that I'm thinking of.....



On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 10:52 PM, dutchbeats <dutchbeats@yahoo.ca> wrote:
 

lol that'll learn it! seriously though i'd have to learn sysex to get my saved presets off of the machine first before i did a reset. now you have me curious.


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, James Ulibarri wrote:
>
> I have had similar results with a PX-7 a couple years ago. Have you tried
> resetting the machine? That always worked for me. I think the CS needs to
> be reset every few months.
> Removing the roms actually made the unit more stable too. Go totally
> commando and don't use any.
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 10:32 PM, dutchbeats wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > thanks mibrilane that is a good idea. although i would have to learn sysex
> > transfers first ; /
> >
> > i forgot to add that it did the same thing to me with internal tracks also.
> > i saved a few notes played on tracks 1 and 2 with internal presets and when
> > i reloaded the pattern the note data was there but the presets were switched
> > back to the originals.
> >
> > i was messing with multisetups recently so maybe there is a global setting
> > i changed? is it possible the machine would behave like this because of a
> > bad psu or something mechanical?
> >
> > thanks!
>; >
> >
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Mibrilane wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > On 5/15/11 6:53 PM, "dutchbeats" wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >; > > the song mode bugs(bugs, and more bugs grrrr)/limitations and
> > propensity to
> > > > crash make it difficult to work with on a professional and detailed
> > level.
> > > > i've never owned an mpc but from what i've read in these aspects they
> > are
> > > > quite succinct compared to the e-mu? unless again my machine is
> > faulty(just
> > > > tell me it's my machine so i can buy another one already!
> > >
> > > Maybe I've been lucky, but I've never had a Command Station crash on me.
> > > Then again, I've never really gone beyond hobbyist noodling and haven';t
> > > really used song mode all that much.
> > > >
> > > > speaking of which:
> > > >
> > > > i use the command station for sequencing a sampler and recently started
> > > > setting all of those tracks to the blank default preset at the end of
> > the
> > >; > preset list before saving. but after reloading the pattern later, the
> > presets
> > > > are switched back to their original settings, even though there is midi
> > data
> > > > saved to the track. the channel routings are as i left them, but the
> > presets
> > > > are reverted back.
> > > >
> > > > however, i go to the first of those tracks and switch the preset back
> > to the
> > > > blank default preset and somehow magically by doing this all of the
> > rest of
> > > > those sampler tracks switch back to default as well. weird eh?
> > > >
> > > > what's weirder is, once i do this and revert the tracks to default
> > preset, if
> > > > i revert to saved pattern and reload the pattern i won't have to do it
> > again!
> > > > they will be already all on blank default presets. so only after
> > rebooting the
> > > > cs will i have to revert the tracks back.
> > > >
> > >; > or maybe you can't save a track with no preset on it, like you can save
> > > > whatever preset you want to a track and it will remember it but not
> > with the
> > > > last default one?
> > >
> > > That is indeed weird. I wonder if that only happens when using the ROM
> > > "Default v1.0" patch. Have you tried using the V2.0 blank preset from the
> > > Blank V2.0 preset Banks.zip
> > > <
> > http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/IIXQTYixt78sfAmUzomegFOiYMhk5D0CcGCKydE2bJ1R2r
> > >
> > B7TTu1dBE-63JPdSizvsrfvBi7tUDrryc04EU6SHhJUiq-Rkc/Command%20Station%20Data/B
> > > lank%20V2.0%20preset%20Banks.zip> in the Files area?
> > >
> > > Mibrilane
> > > mibrilane@
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>


Re: [xl7] Re: rack ears

2011-05-16 by Bruno

Hi Dutch,

2011/5/16 dutchbeats <dutchbeats@...>:
> thanks mibrilane that is a good idea. although i would have to learn sysex transfers first ; /
>
> i forgot to add that it did the same thing to me with internal tracks also. i saved a few notes played on tracks 1 and 2 with internal presets and when i reloaded the pattern the note data was there but the presets were switched back to the originals.

If we are talking about the simple procedure:
 - set some sounds
 - records some stuff
 - recall the pattern
 - be stunned with a different sounds that you have had assigned,
then it never happened to me. I would assume your CS can have some
flaw on the hardware level. Also, if you could come up with a
repeatable crash procedure, that would allow us to try it and bring
more details.

Speaking about making dumps: If you have a PC with Windows, use MIDI
Ox. It can record the SysEx dump initiated on the instrument side, so
you can just dump the whole bank at once. With regard to the patterns,
I'm afraid you *have* to use eLoader for patterns, although I think
the pattern dump can be requested with some SysEx sent from MIDI Ox.

If you have a Mac with OS X, there were a nice app mentioned (on this
list, or maybe on the P2K one), quick search on Google reveals this
one: http://www.snoize.com/SysExLibrarian/ - I never used it, though,
but probably will try.

If you have a Linux, you should be able to send SysEx using a MIDI
cable and a paper clip (and calculate the control sum on the fly).
With handshaking. In the complete darkness.

> i was messing with multisetups recently so maybe there is a global setting i changed? is it possible the machine would behave like this because of a bad psu or something mechanical?

Overheating?

Anyway, wish you getting it cleared soon.

Bruno

Re: [xl7] Re: rack ears

2011-05-16 by Bruno

2011/5/16 James Ulibarri <jamesulibarri@...>
> I'll probably get a Europa sequencer next to use with my Forat F16.  It's gonna be tits.   Shuffle for days.  Real shuffle too, not this pseudo kinda shuffling thing with a certain sequencer that I'm thinking of.....

OMG

Look, we're not "incredibly passionate about a box that doesn't even
count in real world of Emu hardware". I really don't give a shit about
what color is tits and badass, and why yellow is not that color.
Actually, for me it is. Too bad I have XROM in MP7 enclosure, dammit.
I really don't care about how analog are my filters, how much grittier
is 11-and-a-half bit sampling compared to everything else. I treat my
oblivion regarding to what counts in real world of Emu hardware as a
bliss, that helps me to focus on the two most important things,
associated with my Command Station:
 - making music, and
 - having fun while doing this.

I find here a bunch of guys incredibly passionate about discovering
more possibilities, squeezing the orange juice out of XL7 in order to
get more things done. They aren't busy polishing their enclosures or
swapping the LCDs, since they're mostly busy making actual sounds,
rather than pimping themselves with some transcendent classical gear
full of Emu-nence.

And you know what? They are awesome and helpful. Not only they will
help one to solve a problem, but will start to resonate and give some
inspiration. And I don't mean an inspiration to buy a new piece of
gear, that - who would expect - they are selling just now on eBay...

Wish you days of fun with real, gritty, analog, blue LCD, bling bling
madafaka 15-bit shuffling.

Bruno

Re: [xl7] Re: rack ears

2011-05-16 by James Ulibarri

Bruno,

I have this feeling that the CS is the only piece of Emu hardware you've ever owned..
Call it intuition..  or a sixth sense if you will.

Let me enlighten you, turd.  Anything after the EIII is not real Emu.  Dave and Scott lost the company due to the cost of manufacturing the EIII which ran about $16K for the 8 meg model.   Do you have one of those?  Have you ever heard one?  Played one?   Or fixed one?    I didn't think so.   You wouldn't even know how to turn one on.   You big huge E-MU fan, you.

After Emu went bankrupt after producing the EIII and Creative taking them over.. Manufacturing went from made in the USA in small numbers to made in China, almost overnight.  And so did the ideas and engineering. Creative rode on the coat tails of the Emu name and logo.  EIII put them out of business. It's regarded as the best sounding sampler ever made by some people. And their most expensive machine to manufacture. Imagine 16 outputs with 16 low pass SSM 4-pole filters in one box (same filters as the Waldorf Wave) You probably don't know what that means though right?  while Akai was making machines at 1/4th the price. So how did we go from real machines to mass produced toys in florescent silly colors in about 10 years or so with the same logo?   Easy, Creative's marketing plan for producing modules and ROMS that completely overlapped each other by about 25% with the same voices was brilliant.  They rode that wave all the way to the end of the line... the CS.  And they sold a crap ton of them and roms.   Well, Bruno, you're part of that camp.  The camp that doesn't have a clue about any of the above.  Way to do your homework and have a clue.    Or care in the world about the history and lineage of what you're using which is even more nauseating and pathetic.

Bruno,  I'm embarrassed for you after what you wrote.  No one will ever take you seriously after that one on the board.  Because you put all your cards on the table for everyone to see of what little you actually do know.  I guess it's OK for some people to be a happy-go-lucky idiot where ignorance is bliss.  But hey, you knock yourself out with your "loaded" XROM in MP7 enclosure.  How adorable :)     Don't try any harder than that.  Cool?


Back to my Emulator III before bed.




On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 2:35 AM, Bruno <brunorc@...> wrote:
 

2011/5/16 James Ulibarri <jamesulibarri@...>
> I'll probably get a Europa sequencer next to use with my Forat F16.  It's gonna be tits.   Shuffle for days.  Real shuffle too, not this pseudo kinda shuffling thing with a certain sequencer that I'm thinking of.....

OMG

Look, we're not "incredibly passionate about a box that doesn't even
count in real world of Emu hardware". I really don't give a shit about
what color is tits and badass, and why yellow is not that color.
Actually, for me it is. Too bad I have XROM in MP7 enclosure, dammit.
I really don't care about how analog are my filters, how much grittier
is 11-and-a-half bit sampling compared to everything else. I treat my
oblivion regarding to what counts in real world of Emu hardware as a
bliss, that helps me to focus on the two most important things,
associated with my Command Station:
- making music, and
- having fun while doing this.

I find here a bunch of guys incredibly passionate about discovering
more possibilities, squeezing the orange juice out of XL7 in order to
get more things done. They aren't busy polishing their enclosures or
swapping the LCDs, since they're mostly busy making actual sounds,
rather than pimping themselves with some transcendent classical gear
full of Emu-nence.

And you know what? They are awesome and helpful. Not only they will
help one to solve a problem, but will start to resonate and give some
inspiration. And I don't mean an inspiration to buy a new piece of
gear, that - who would expect - they are selling just now on eBay...

Wish you days of fun with real, gritty, analog, blue LCD, bling bling
madafaka 15-bit shuffling.

Bruno


Re: rack ears

2011-05-16 by steve_the_composer

"No comment," he said, with a tongue-in-cheek sense of humor, attempting to difuse what might appear to some [but not all. -ed.] as deep-seated anger and hostility.

steve_the_passionate_retard

PS: Lighten-up, dude. Life's too short to have so much anger towards people you don't even know. [and don't really care about. -ed.]

------------------------------------------------------------------

PPS: Seriously, do you have a website with your music on it? I am interested in hearing how you convert your creative energies into music.

Steve


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, James Ulibarri <jamesulibarri@...> wrote:
>
> Ummmm, the deception?   I don't freakin think so.  Whom am I am trying to
> intentionally deceive as you put it?  I said "someone" is selling rack ears
> on Ebay.  As a cute quick informative one liner for someone to snag them.
> Why would it matter if it were me or anyone else?   If anything,  I would be
> doing the forum a favor because the topic of people wanting rack ears comes
> up from time to time as people seem to be looking for them.  And why is it
> that my posts are always under so much scrutiny?   Not that I care what you
> say Steve, Greg W, or Bob for that matter.  So Bob is some type of freakin
> hero?  For what??   And also what do you mean I have been good lately?
> Dude, do you think I care?  I can't get away from this forum fast enough...
> Not walk, but RUN. Look, I do not have this problem in the Emax, EII, EIII,
> and EIIIforum, or the Studio 440 forums.  It's just this particular one.
> It's just this pain in the ass, hovering femme energy in here, that just
> rubs me sooo incredibly wrong sometimes.   It's a bunch of guys incredibly
> passionate about a box that doesn't even count in real world of Emu
> hardware.  You just don't get it do you?     It's this feeling here that I
> can cut with a knife.  It makes me want to barf everything I ever ate.. And
> it's only from a few guys, not everyone.  It makes me want to come up
> swinging.  Do me a favor Steve and quit commenting on my posts.  You're
> really annoying to be honest.  Last week you're like "did anyone catch that,
> huh huh"... "he didn't sell it for $395, wow guys what are we gonna do? huh
> huh".  And no one responded... because no one cared.  That's the bottom
> line.    Is this your way of being funny and cute?  Because it's retarded.
> 
> Steve, quit watching my every move, and move on.  And before you say it... I
> don't need your permission or blessing to stay or leave.  I'll leave when I
> want to leave.
> 
> Have a good day.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 6:09 AM, steve_the_composer <smw-mail@...>wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > "James, James," he said with a mock-patronizing voice and a tongue-in-cheek
> > grin. "I am sooooo disappointed in you. You have been soooooo good lately.
> > But to offer something for sale here especially in such a sneaky way after
> > saying you wouldn't try to sell anything more here, is more than I can
> > handle without calling you on this one."
> >
> > steve_the_tongue-in-cheek_guy
> >
> > PS: Kudos to Bob S. for spotting the intended deception.
> >
> > steve_the_greatful
> >
> >
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, James Ulibarri <jamesulibarri@> wrote:
> > >
> > > And you are right!
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > On May 14, 2011, at 10:19 PM, "Bob S." <tttsystems@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > ...and you are the seller !
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: James Ulibarri
> > > > To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 21:23
> > > > Subject: [xl7] rack ears
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > someone is selling a pair on ebay right now..
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >  
> >
>

Re: [xl7] Re: rack ears

2011-05-16 by Atom Smasher

On Mon, 16 May 2011, James Ulibarri wrote:

> EIII put them out of business. It's regarded as the best sounding 
> sampler ever made by some people.
==========

the MKS-10 is regarded as the best sounding sampler ever made, by some 
people. so is the SK-1. and the FZ-10m. and the S2000. and the mirage. 
and... you get the idea.

i consider your opinion just as importantly as i consider theirs ;)

the best sounding sampler to me is the one that best facilitates me making 
music.


-- 
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Re: [xl7] Re: rack ears

2011-05-16 by Zsolt Szabó

The best equipment is which gets the job done.

After your endless rants it would be very welcome to show
at least some samples of your music, just to know, you at
least know how to use those instruments.

One thing is your passion towards history, and another is
other people's knowledge and capabilities.

From your posts i think you maybe can teach history,
but you cannot make music. Please cut down on history
and don't insult us any further.



Regards,

     Zsolt | http://adsr.hu




----- Original Message ----- 
From: James Ulibarri
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: rack ears




Bruno,

I have this feeling that the CS is the only piece of Emu hardware you've ever 
owned..
Call it intuition..  or a sixth sense if you will.

Let me enlighten you, turd.  Anything after the EIII is not real Emu.  Dave and 
Scott lost the company due to the cost of manufacturing the EIII which ran about 
$16K for the 8 meg model.   Do you have one of those?  Have you ever heard one? 
Played one?   Or fixed one?    I didn't think so.   You wouldn't even know how 
to turn one on.   You big huge E-MU fan, you.

After Emu went bankrupt after producing the EIII and Creative taking them over.. 
Manufacturing went from made in the USA in small numbers to made in China, 
almost overnight.  And so did the ideas and engineering. Creative rode on the 
coat tails of the Emu name and logo.  EIII put them out of business. It's 
regarded as the best sounding sampler ever made by some people. And their most 
expensive machine to manufacture. Imagine 16 outputs with 16 low pass SSM 4-pole 
filters in one box (same filters as the Waldorf Wave) You probably don't know 
what that means though right?  while Akai was making machines at 1/4th the 
price. So how did we go from real machines to mass produced toys in florescent 
silly colors in about 10 years or so with the same logo?   Easy, Creative's 
marketing plan for producing modules and ROMS that completely overlapped each 
other by about 25% with the same voices was brilliant.  They rode that wave all 
the way to the end of the line... the CS.  And they sold a crap ton of them and 
roms.   Well, Bruno, you're part of that camp.  The camp that doesn't have a 
clue about any of the above.  Way to do your homework and have a clue.    Or 
care in the world about the history and lineage of what you're using which is 
even more nauseating and pathetic.

Bruno,  I'm embarrassed for you after what you wrote.  No one will ever take you 
seriously after that one on the board.  Because you put all your cards on the 
table for everyone to see of what little you actually do know.  I guess it's OK 
for some people to be a happy-go-lucky idiot where ignorance is bliss.  But hey, 
you knock yourself out with your "loaded" XROM in MP7 enclosure.  How adorable 
:)     Don't try any harder than that.  Cool?


Back to my Emulator III before bed.





On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 2:35 AM, Bruno <brunorc@...> wrote:


2011/5/16 James Ulibarri <jamesulibarri@...>
> I'll probably get a Europa sequencer next to use with my Forat F16.  It's 
> gonna be tits.   Shuffle for days.  Real shuffle too, not this pseudo kinda 
> shuffling thing with a certain sequencer that I'm thinking of.....


OMG

Look, we're not "incredibly passionate about a box that doesn't even
count in real world of Emu hardware". I really don't give a shit about
what color is tits and badass, and why yellow is not that color.
Actually, for me it is. Too bad I have XROM in MP7 enclosure, dammit.
I really don't care about how analog are my filters, how much grittier
is 11-and-a-half bit sampling compared to everything else. I treat my
oblivion regarding to what counts in real world of Emu hardware as a
bliss, that helps me to focus on the two most important things,
associated with my Command Station:
- making music, and
- having fun while doing this.

I find here a bunch of guys incredibly passionate about discovering
more possibilities, squeezing the orange juice out of XL7 in order to
get more things done. They aren't busy polishing their enclosures or
swapping the LCDs, since they're mostly busy making actual sounds,
rather than pimping themselves with some transcendent classical gear
full of Emu-nence.

And you know what? They are awesome and helpful. Not only they will
help one to solve a problem, but will start to resonate and give some
inspiration. And I don't mean an inspiration to buy a new piece of
gear, that - who would expect - they are selling just now on eBay...

Wish you days of fun with real, gritty, analog, blue LCD, bling bling
madafaka 15-bit shuffling.

Bruno

Re: [xl7] Re: rack ears

2011-05-16 by Bruno

2011/5/16 James Ulibarri <jamesulibarri@...>
> EIII put them out of business. It's regarded as the best sounding sampler ever made by some people. And their most expensive machine to manufacture. Imagine 16 outputs with 16 low pass SSM 4-pole filters in one box (same filters as the Waldorf Wave) You probably don't know what that means though right?

According to http://www.emulatorarchive.com/Synthesizers/SSM/ssm.html:

"The [SSM] chips proved very popular from 1977 - 1985, with the only
competition coming from Curtis Electromusic Specialities (CEM) based
in Santa Clara, who began manufacturing a range of analog synthesizer
chips in 1979. These proved to be rather more stable in design, but
they did not have the warmth of the SSM designs. The Emulator III was
the only E-mu design to use CEM chips (the CEM 3387)."

Am I wrong, or would it be difficult to find SSM filters in the EIII
*enclosure*?

Re: [xl7] Re: rack ears

2011-05-16 by Greg W

LoL cleaned up again!

Your becoming a joke pal.


From: Bruno
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 16 May, 2011 5:03:43 AM
Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: rack ears

�

2011/5/16 James Ulibarri <jamesulibarri@...>
> EIII put them out of business. It's regarded as the best sounding sampler ever made by some people. And their most expensive machine to manufacture. Imagine 16 outputs with 16 low pass SSM 4-pole filters in one box (same filters as the Waldorf Wave) You probably don't know what that means though right?

According to http://www.emulatorarchive.com/Synthesizers/SSM/ssm.html:

"The [SSM] chips proved very popular from 1977 - 1985, with the only
competition coming from Curtis Electromusic Specialities (CEM) based
in Santa Clara, who began manufacturing a range of analog synthesizer
chips in 1979. These proved to be rather more stable in design, but
they did not have the warmth of the SSM designs. The Emulator III was
the only E-mu design to use CEM chips (the CEM 3387)."

Am I wrong, or would it be difficult to find SSM filters in the EIII
*enclosure*?

Re: rack ears

2011-05-16 by dutchbeats

thanks again! my xl7 does heat up after being on for a few hours but the most noticeable is the smell. not burnt plastic or electronics but burnt hair or an old space heater. the inside looks brand new but the outside shows it was clearly used for live performances and really used hard. ie the first two track buttons are indented and the custom paint and hand written silver marker tell me it was used for some sort of dance or techno raves or something. probably it was left on all night at these events too.

yes i will use midi ox to transfer presets, i knew there was a reason i downloaded it years ago(!) all my patterns are safely backed up already thanks in total to this group.

i'll report back once i get to setting up again after my move. 


markus



--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Bruno <brunorc@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Dutch,
> 
> 2011/5/16 dutchbeats <dutchbeats@...>:
> > thanks mibrilane that is a good idea. although i would have to learn sysex transfers first ; /
> >
> > i forgot to add that it did the same thing to me with internal tracks also. i saved a few notes played on tracks 1 and 2 with internal presets and when i reloaded the pattern the note data was there but the presets were switched back to the originals.
> 
> If we are talking about the simple procedure:
>  - set some sounds
>  - records some stuff
>  - recall the pattern
>  - be stunned with a different sounds that you have had assigned,
> then it never happened to me. I would assume your CS can have some
> flaw on the hardware level. Also, if you could come up with a
> repeatable crash procedure, that would allow us to try it and bring
> more details.
> 
> Speaking about making dumps: If you have a PC with Windows, use MIDI
> Ox. It can record the SysEx dump initiated on the instrument side, so
> you can just dump the whole bank at once. With regard to the patterns,
> I'm afraid you *have* to use eLoader for patterns, although I think
> the pattern dump can be requested with some SysEx sent from MIDI Ox.
> 
> If you have a Mac with OS X, there were a nice app mentioned (on this
> list, or maybe on the P2K one), quick search on Google reveals this
> one: http://www.snoize.com/SysExLibrarian/ - I never used it, though,
> but probably will try.
> 
> If you have a Linux, you should be able to send SysEx using a MIDI
> cable and a paper clip (and calculate the control sum on the fly).
> With handshaking. In the complete darkness.
> 
> > i was messing with multisetups recently so maybe there is a global setting i changed? is it possible the machine would behave like this because of a bad psu or something mechanical?
> 
> Overheating?
> 
> Anyway, wish you getting it cleared soon.
> 
> Bruno
>

WAS rack ears

2011-05-16 by The Dogg

Let's move on, there are just some people who like to push buttons just to see how far others will take it. Everyone knows that James IS knowledge. So is the internet. But everyone also knows that he gets offended quickly. Sorry James. I hope you are making good music. But really.... Let's talk about cool stuff, and/or fixing what is wrong or letting each other know what works. Life is too short to be all up in what other people know or don't know. Or what people have or don't have. Let's just have fun. We are all made from the same game. Command Stations are fun. Who cares who made it. I like German stuff too. Like the Access Virus and listening to all music through ;Adam Speakers, and Genelecs from Finland. Theres a place for everybody to enjoy what they have. Emu classics still rock.     I AM TOMTEL  Truth Evolves Life

Re: [xl7] Re: rack ears

2011-05-17 by Greg W

I couldnt stand the heat they generate, I feared the electronics would suffer over a long period, so

I hacked a computer fan into mine, tapped the +5 v off the pwr sup

mounted on the back indented section facing down, had to drill holes in the case.

But mine never gets to the cooking level heat they seem to get to!.




From: dutchbeats
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 16 May, 2011 10:17:53 AM
Subject: [xl7] Re: rack ears

�

thanks again! my xl7 does heat up after being on for a few hours but the most noticeable is the smell. not burnt plastic or electronics but burnt hair or an old space heater. the inside looks brand new but the outside shows it was clearly used for live performances and really used hard. ie the first two track buttons are indented and the custom paint and hand written silver marker tell me it was used for some sort of dance or techno raves or something. probably it was left on all night at these events too.

yes i will use midi ox to transfer presets, i knew there was a reason i downloaded it years ago(!) all my patterns are safely backed up already thanks in total to this group.

i'll report back once i get to setting up again after my move.

markus

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Bruno wrote:
>
> Hi Dutch,
>
> 2011/5/16 dutchbeats <dutchbeats@...>:
> > thanks mibrilane that is a good idea. although i would have to learn sysex transfers first ; /
> >
> > i forgot to add that it did the same thing to me with internal tracks also. i saved a few notes played on tracks 1 and 2 with internal presets and when i reloaded the pattern the note data was there but the presets were switched back to the originals.
>
> If we are talking about the simple procedure:
> - set some sounds
> - records some stuff
> - recall the pattern
> - be stunned with a different sounds that you have had assigned,
> then it never happened to me. I would assume your CS can have some
> flaw on the hardware level. Also, if you could come up with a
> repeatable crash procedure, that would allow us to try it and bring
> more details.
>
> Speaking about making dumps: If you have a PC with Windows, use MIDI
> Ox. It can record the SysEx dump initiated on the instrument side, so
> you can just dump the whole bank at once. With regard to the patterns,
> I'm afraid you *have* to use eLoader for patterns, although I think
> the pattern dump can be requested with some SysEx sent from MIDI Ox.
>
> If you have a Mac with OS X, there were a nice app mentioned (on this
> list, or maybe on the P2K one), quick search on Google reveals this
> one: http://www.snoize.com/SysExLibrarian/ - I never used it, though,
> but probably will try.
>
> If you have a Linux, you should be able to send SysEx using a MIDI
> cable and a paper clip (and calculate the control sum on the fly).
> With handshaking. In the complete darkness.
>
> > i was messing with multisetups recently so maybe there is a global setting i changed? is it possible the machine would behave like this because of a bad psu or something mechanical?
>
> Overheating?
>
> Anyway, wish you getting it cleared soon.
>
> Bruno
>

Re: [xl7] Re: rack ears

2011-05-17 by Bob S.


You must be in Europe or somewhere with 220V?� I noticed that when I took my command station on holiday in Europe and used just a plug adapter, it seem to run pretty hot when on 220V.� 110V operation is not as hot...
�
Bob
El Segundo, CA
�
�
----- Original Message -----
From: Greg W
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 18:51
Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: rack ears

�

I couldnt stand the heat they generate, I feared the electronics would suffer over a long period, so

I hacked a computer fan into mine, tapped the +5 v off the pwr sup

mounted on the back indented section facing down, had to drill holes in the case.

But mine never gets to the cooking level heat they seem to get to!.




From: dutchbeats
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 16 May, 2011 10:17:53 AM
Subject: [xl7] Re: rack ears

�

thanks again! my xl7 does heat up after being on for a few hours but the most noticeable is the smell. not burnt plastic or electronics but burnt hair or an old space heater. the inside looks brand new but the outside shows it was clearly used for live performances and really used hard. ie the first two track buttons are indented and the custom paint and hand written silver marker tell me it was used for some sort of dance or techno raves or something. probably it was left on all night at these events too.

yes i will use midi ox to transfer presets, i knew there was a reason i downloaded it years ago(!) all my patterns are safely backed up already thanks in total to this group.

i'll report back once i get to setting up again after my move.

markus

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Bruno wrote:
>
> Hi Dutch,
>
> 2011/5/16 dutchbeats :
> > thanks mibrilane that is a good idea. although i would have to learn sysex transfers first ; /
> >
> > i forgot to add that it did the same thing to me with internal tracks also. i saved a few notes played on tracks 1 and 2 with internal presets and when i reloaded the pattern the note data was there but the presets were switched back to the originals.
>
> If we are talking about the simple procedure:
> - set some sounds
> - records some stuff
> - recall the pattern
> - be stunned with a different sounds that you have had assigned,
> then it never happened to me. I would assume your CS can have some
> flaw on the hardware level. Also, if you could come up with a
> repeatable crash procedure, that would allow us to try it and bring
> more details.
>
> Speaking about making dumps: If you have a PC with Windows, use MIDI
> Ox. It can record the SysEx dump initiated on the instrument side, so
> you can just dump the whole bank at once. With regard to the patterns,
> I'm afraid you *have* to use eLoader for patterns, although I think
> the pattern dump can be requested with some SysEx sent from MIDI Ox.
>
> If you have a Mac with OS X, there were a nice app mentioned (on this
> list, or maybe on the P2K one), quick search on Google reveals this
> one: http://www.snoize.com/SysExLibrarian/ - I never used it, though,
> but probably will try.
>
> If you have a Linux, you should be able to send SysEx using a MIDI
> cable and a paper clip (and calculate the control sum on the fly).
> With handshaking. In the complete darkness.
>
> > i was messing with multisetups recently so maybe there is a global setting i changed? is it possible the machine would behave like this because of a bad psu or something mechanical?
>
> Overheating?
>
> Anyway, wish you getting it cleared soon.
>
> Bruno
>

Re: [xl7] Re: rack ears

2011-05-17 by Greg W

Nah then in Oz at 240V!

Now in SEA at what ever they can muster on any particular day....lol


From: Bob S.
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 16 May, 2011 7:38:56 PM
Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: rack ears

�;



You must be in Europe or somewhere with 220V?� I noticed that when I took my command station on holiday in Europe and used just a plug adapter, it seem to run pretty hot when on 220V.� 110V operation is not as hot...
�
Bob
El Segundo, CA
�
�
----- Original Message -----
From: Greg W
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 18:51
Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: rack ears

�

I couldnt stand the heat they generate, I feared the electronics would suffer over a long period, so

I hacked a computer fan into mine, tapped the +5 v off the pwr sup

mounted on the back indented section facing down, had to drill holes in the case.

But mine never gets to the cooking level heat they seem to get to!.




From: dutchbeats
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 16 May, 2011 10:17:53 AM
Subject: [xl7] Re: rack ears

�

thanks again! my xl7 does heat up after being on for a few hours but the most noticeable is the smell. not burnt plastic or electronics but burnt hair or an old space heater. the inside looks brand new but the outside shows it was clearly used for live performances and really used hard. ie the first two track buttons are indented and the custom paint and hand written silver marker tell me it was used for some sort of dance or techno raves or something. probably it was left on all night at these events too.

yes i will use midi ox to transfer presets, i knew there was a reason i downloaded it years ago(!) all my patterns are safely backed up already thanks in total to this group.

i'll report back once i get to setting up again after my move.

markus

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Bruno wrote:
>
> Hi Dutch,
>
> 2011/5/16 dutchbeats :
> > thanks mibrilane that is a good idea. although i would have to learn sysex transfers first ; /
> >
> > i forgot to add that it did the same thing to me with internal tracks also. i saved a few notes played on tracks 1 and 2 with internal presets and when i reloaded the pattern the note data was there but the presets were switched back to the originals.
>
> If we are talking about the simple procedure:
>; - set some sounds
> - records some stuff
> - recall the pattern
> - be stunned with a different sounds that you have had assigned,
> then it never happened to me. I would assume your CS can have some
> flaw on the hardware level. Also, if you could come up with a
> repeatable crash procedure, that would allow us to try it and bring
> more details.
>
> Speaking about making dumps: If you have a PC with Windows, use MIDI
> Ox. It can record the SysEx dump initiated on the instrument side, so
> you can just dump the whole bank at once. With regard to the patterns,
> I'm afraid you *have* to use eLoader for patterns, although I think
> the pattern dump can be requested with some SysEx sent from MIDI Ox.
>
> If you have a Mac with OS X, there were a nice app mentioned (on this
> list, or maybe on the P2K one), quick search on Google reveals this
> one: http://www.snoize.com/SysExLibrarian/ - I never used it, though,
> but probably will try.
>
> If you have a Linux, you should be able to send SysEx using a MIDI
> cable and a paper clip (and calculate the control sum on the fly).
> With handshaking. In the complete darkness.
>
> > i was messing with multisetups recently so maybe there is a global setting i changed? is it possible the machine would behave like this because of a bad psu or something mechanical?
>
> Overheating?
>
> Anyway, wish you getting it cleared soon.
>
> Bruno
>

Re: rack ears

2011-05-20 by duncan

>>No one will ever take you seriously after that one on the board.<<

way to go yourself, james. meds run out again? 

I'm not getting anything useful from this list anymore. see ya.

d.

Sound ROMs 4sale

2011-05-20 by Carleton Jefferies

Hey There Group,
                        I have 2 roms for sale 1 is the Composer rom the other is the Proteus 2000 rom.....Both in Great condition ready to be installed (PX-7,MP-7,XL-7, etc.....
 
Call me with a reasonable offer at 202-534-0271 if no answer leave a message with your offer

Re: Sound ROMs 4sale

2011-06-01 by Carleton Jefferies

Whoever buys that MP7,needs to pick up these sound cards from me also and you will have a real nice unit...

On Fri May 20th, 2011 6:05 PM EDT Carleton Jefferies wrote:

>Hey There Group,
>                        I have 2 roms for sale 1 is the Composer rom the other 
>is the Proteus 2000 rom.....Both in Great condition ready to be installed 
>(PX-7,MP-7,XL-7, etc.....
> 
>Call me with a reasonable offer at 202-534-0271 if no answer leave a message 
>with your offer

Re: [xl7] Re: Sound ROMs 4sale

2011-06-01 by Bruno

Don't want to rain on your parade, but...

2011/6/1 Carleton Jefferies <mustangbeats@...>:
> Whoever buys that MP7,needs to pick up these sound cards from me also and you will have a real nice unit...

"I have a MP-7 in great condition (...) for some reason it stopped
reading my rom card."

Bruno

Re: [xl7] Re: Sound ROMs 4sale

2011-06-01 by Matt

Just stopped reading my rom card sounds like us error to me, but that's a risk I guess.

sent from my gTab

On Jun 1, 2011 8:57 AM, "Bruno" <brunorc@...> wrote:
> Don't want to rain on your parade, but...
>
> 2011/6/1 Carleton Jefferies <mustangbeats@...>:
>> Whoever buys that MP7,needs to pick up these sound cards from me also and you will have a real nice unit...
>
> "I have a MP-7 in great condition (...) for some reason it stopped
> reading my rom card."
>
> Bruno

Re: [xl7] Re: Sound ROMs 4sale

2011-06-01 by Carleton Jefferies

Wow!!...thats not good....sorry to hear that.....Well whoever wants them I still have them

From: Bruno
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, June 1, 2011 8:57:05 AM
Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: Sound ROMs 4sale

�

Don't want to rain on your parade, but...

2011/6/1 Carleton Jefferies <mustangbeats@...>:
> Whoever buys that MP7,needs to pick up these sound cards from me also and you will have a real nice unit...

"I have a MP-7 in great condition (...) for some reason it stopped
reading my rom card."

Bruno