Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

I asked this question already but no one replied, so keen to ask
again. I was thinking about getting Beat Garden and Techno Yard roms
for the command station. Do people find these worthwhile? Also what
other roms have been tried that users find useful.
cheers

PS also no one replied about quick editing the parameters like an XL
synth...any ideas??

I have both of those roms and they are actually the only two I have in my
XL. They are both very usefull if you're willing to take the time and build
your own sounds using the preset waveforms. If you're planning on using the
presets, they pretty much blow, but the waveforms are there and are very
usefull.

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 4:55 PM, rs6000jade <rs6000jade@...> wrote:

>   I asked this question already but no one replied, so keen to ask
> again. I was thinking about getting Beat Garden and Techno Yard roms
> for the command station. Do people find these worthwhile? Also what
> other roms have been tried that users find useful.
> cheers
>
> PS also no one replied about quick editing the parameters like an XL
> synth...any ideas??
>
> 
>


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hi there thanks for the reply. So do you get extra sampled instruments with the additional roms that are different to the standard XL7 factory rom instruments?
Cheers

----- Original Message ----
From: vlady popov <vladypopov@...>
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 20 August, 2008 12:10:54 PM
Subject: Re: [xl7] extra ROMS for XL7


I have both of those roms and they are actually the only two I have in my
XL. They are both very usefull if you're willing to take the time and build
your own sounds using the preset waveforms. If you're planning on using the
presets, they pretty much blow, but the waveforms are there and are very
usefull.

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 4:55 PM, rs6000jade <rs6000jade@yahoo. co.nz> wrote:

>   I asked this question already but no one replied, so keen to ask
> again. I was thinking about getting Beat Garden and Techno Yard roms
> for the command station. Do people find these worthwhile? Also what
> other roms have been tried that users find useful.
> cheers
>
> PS also no one replied about quick editing the parameters like an XL
> synth...any ideas??
>
> 
>

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Yes. There are additional sounds.

Excuse my briefness
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On Aug 19, 2008, at 9:17 PM, Fred Smith <rs6000jade@...> wrote:

> hi there thanks for the reply. So do you get extra sampled  
> instruments with the additional roms that are different to the  
> standard XL7 factory rom instruments?
> Cheers
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: vlady popov <vladypopov@...>
> To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, 20 August, 2008 12:10:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [xl7] extra ROMS for XL7
>
> I have both of those roms and they are actually the only two I have  
> in my
> XL. They are both very usefull if you're willing to take the time  
> and build
> your own sounds using the preset waveforms. If you're planning on  
> using the
> presets, they pretty much blow, but the waveforms are there and are  
> very
> usefull.
>
> On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 4:55 PM, rs6000jade <rs6000jade@yahoo.  
> co.nz> wrote:
>
> > I asked this question already but no one replied, so keen to ask
> > again. I was thinking about getting Beat Garden and Techno Yard roms
> > for the command station. Do people find these worthwhile? Also what
> > other roms have been tried that users find useful.
> > cheers
> >
> > PS also no one replied about quick editing the parameters like an XL
> > synth...any ideas??
> >
> >
> >
>
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>
> Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> 


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--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "rs6000jade" <rs6000jade@...> wrote:
>
> I asked this question already but no one replied, so keen to ask
> again. I was thinking about getting Beat Garden and Techno Yard roms
> for the command station. Do people find these worthwhile? Also what
> other roms have been tried that users find useful.
> 


I like my Planet Earth (or whatever it's called -- on the LCD it shows
up as "World") one best.  The ZR one's piano sounds are good, and it
covers the rest of the GM spectrum.  Mo' Phatt seems to have a lot of
overlap with the XL, though there are some really hilarious bits.

I can give you my opinion about rob pape's beat garden:
 
SUPERB 
 
These are the kind of sounds that make your instrument unique.  It has a great snare collection, also, a lot of SFX sets, weird, non traditional drums.  I complaint of the click sound of some basses at the beginning of the wave, and some kicks, have a white noise at the decay of the patch.  
 
Is ideal for: 
wood basses,
tambourines, cowbells, 
LOTS of claps, snares, 
 
Great BTS sounds. Very original. 
 
I found it very useful, almost a must for command station owners 
 


--- On Wed, 8/20/08, just john <just_john_jj@...> wrote:

From: just john <just_john_jj@...>
Subject: [xl7] Re: extra ROMS for XL7
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 11:52 AM






--- In xl7@yahoogroups. com, "rs6000jade" <rs6000jade@ ...> wrote:
>
> I asked this question already but no one replied, so keen to ask
> again. I was thinking about getting Beat Garden and Techno Yard roms
> for the command station. Do people find these worthwhile? Also what
> other roms have been tried that users find useful.
> 

I like my Planet Earth (or whatever it's called -- on the LCD it shows
up as "World") one best. The ZR one's piano sounds are good, and it
covers the rest of the GM spectrum. Mo' Phatt seems to have a lot of
overlap with the XL, though there are some really hilarious bits.

 














      

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i have a sounds of the zr-76 card in my xl-7
that has a gm bank the 'perfect piano'
and some good drum kits and some 'transwaves'
that i have not fully explored in the sources
the beat garden rom i have in a p2k and it seems a bit lazy
compared with the software version which i also have
the rom has a whole stack of presets which are just single
perc hits
beat garden and tscy are good to study because of the programming
ingenuity involved but they do not have that many good sounds
you would use in prefernce to something eles
a lot of the synths have a wimply plasticy jean michel jarre sound to 
them which i can not believe anybody still wants

I have both Beat and TSCY in an Orbit 3 along with XL-2 and Vintage. 
My P2K has Composer, Protozoa, Adv Orch and World.

Generally, people seem to either love or hate the Beat Garden ROM. I 
love playing with it. I like the combinations of almost acoustic 
sounding instruments with the electronica. However, most of my tracks 
only use it and the TSCY for basses and drums and percussive fills 
which probably tells you something. My best purchases were the 
Protozoa and World ROMs. I wouldn't buy Adv Orch again, probably.

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "rs6000jade" <rs6000jade@...> wrote:

>
> I asked this question already but no one replied, so keen to ask
> again. I was thinking about getting Beat Garden and Techno Yard roms
> for the command station. Do people find these worthwhile? Also what
> other roms have been tried that users find useful.
> cheers
> 
> PS also no one replied about quick editing the parameters like an XL
> synth...any ideas??
>

Thanks for the replies, it's really helpful. Considering the permutations with the standard rom, I think I'm going to go the programming road.... 1000 odd samples, 4 layers, filters etc, cords....mmmm

two questions now arise....
1. how do people best manage their created pre-sets, I'm thinking I have to write stuff down on paper, like a catalogue...i think this is just an interface issue..I'm tyring to learn Emulator X2 as well now, so i can see how software is so much better in an interface way, but lacking in a live performnace way that the command station does so well....you can do some really cool stuff live on the XL7
2. the xl7 is really good for minimal techno...nice
3. has anyone made their own roms from one of those ultra samplers?? i see it's possible to burn your own if you have one of those ultra series machines, maybe it's better to get one of those an make your own rom?

Comments welcome.
PEACE

----- Original Message ----
From: Keith Young <emigr8@...>
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 21 August, 2008 9:06:35 PM
Subject: [xl7] Re: extra ROMS for XL7


I have both Beat and TSCY in an Orbit 3 along with XL-2 and Vintage. 
My P2K has Composer, Protozoa, Adv Orch and World.

Generally, people seem to either love or hate the Beat Garden ROM. I 
love playing with it. I like the combinations of almost acoustic 
sounding instruments with the electronica. However, most of my tracks 
only use it and the TSCY for basses and drums and percussive fills 
which probably tells you something. My best purchases were the 
Protozoa and World ROMs. I wouldn't buy Adv Orch again, probably.

--- In xl7@yahoogroups. com, "rs6000jade" <rs6000jade@ ...> wrote:
>
> I asked this question already but no one replied, so keen to ask
> again. I was thinking about getting Beat Garden and Techno Yard roms
> for the command station. Do people find these worthwhile? Also what
> other roms have been tried that users find useful.
> cheers
> 
> PS also no one replied about quick editing the parameters like an XL
> synth...any ideas??
>

    

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I don't know if you use it, but the next version of Proteum (in a 
month or two, I hope) will have a number of new features. Many have 
been imposed on me because the data wheel on my P2K is starting to go 
and I need a way to do everything from my PC remotely, but we'll put 
that aside. 

Anyway, one of the most important is the user-editable tooltips, 
someone suggested here a couple of months back. Essentially, I have 
created a tooltip entry for every control in the system describing 
what it does (much of the text coming from the user manual). Users 
can amend the text to leave notes for themselves.

I have also added a mechanism through which users can set a tooltip 
for any Preset, Instrument, Riff, Demo, Arp or Setup. The idea is to 
use the tool to document the content. However, that is not complete 
yet because I am still thinking about how to package the texts into 
the files created by the software and how to make the texts easily 
viewable, so people can quickly "point-and-click load" something they 
are working on.
Keith
I have also added a setup/multi editor, a tuning editor, a bank map 
editor and a whole chunk of other stuff too, but more of that nearer 
the time.

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Fred Smith <rs6000jade@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the replies, it's really helpful. Considering the 
permutations with the standard rom, I think I'm going to go the 
programming road.... 1000 odd samples, 4 layers, filters etc, 
cords....mmmm
> 
> two questions now arise....
> 1. how do people best manage their created pre-sets, I'm thinking I 
have to write stuff down on paper, like a catalogue...i think this is 
just an interface issue..I'm tyring to learn Emulator X2 as well now, 
so i can see how software is so much better in an interface way, but 
lacking in a live performnace way that the command station does so 
well....you can do some really cool stuff live on the XL7
> 2. the xl7 is really good for minimal techno...nice
> 3. has anyone made their own roms from one of those ultra 
samplers?? i see it's possible to burn your own if you have one of 
those ultra series machines, maybe it's better to get one of those an 
make your own rom?
> 
> Comments welcome.
> PEACE
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Keith Young <emigr8@...>
> To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, 21 August, 2008 9:06:35 PM
> Subject: [xl7] Re: extra ROMS for XL7
> 
> 
> I have both Beat and TSCY in an Orbit 3 along with XL-2 and 
Vintage. 
> My P2K has Composer, Protozoa, Adv Orch and World.
> 
> Generally, people seem to either love or hate the Beat Garden ROM. 
I 
> love playing with it. I like the combinations of almost acoustic 
> sounding instruments with the electronica. However, most of my 
tracks 
> only use it and the TSCY for basses and drums and percussive fills 
> which probably tells you something. My best purchases were the 
> Protozoa and World ROMs. I wouldn't buy Adv Orch again, probably.
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups. com, "rs6000jade" <rs6000jade@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > I asked this question already but no one replied, so keen to ask
> > again. I was thinking about getting Beat Garden and Techno Yard 
roms
> > for the command station. Do people find these worthwhile? Also 
what
> > other roms have been tried that users find useful.
> > cheers
> > 
> > PS also no one replied about quick editing the parameters like an 
XL
> > synth...any ideas??
> >
> 
>     
> 
> Send instant messages to your online friends 
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