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2002-02-22 by just john
This is probably an obvious oversight on my part, easily fixed, but I still don't know why hitting the + or - keys to change Track/Channel sometimes seems to change what gets routed through what effects. At times it's kinda startling, when playing a pattern. --- * Radio Free Entropy: http://just-john.com/cn/rfe.shtml *
2002-02-22 by just john
>This is probably an obvious oversight on my part, easily fixed, but I still >don't know why hitting the + or - keys to change Track/Channel sometimes >seems to change what gets routed through what effects. At times it's kinda >startling, when playing a pattern. (Clarification: I mean sounds that one wouldn't think would be associated with the Track/Channel you're moving from or to are affected.) --- * Radio Free Entropy: http://just-john.com/cn/rfe.shtml *
2002-02-22 by Andre Lewis
Ah, are you talking about during sequencer playback or recording?
-----Original Message----- From: just john [mailto:justjohn@...] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 3:30 PM To: xl7@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [xl7] Why does changing the Track/Channel change the sound? >This is probably an obvious oversight on my part, easily fixed, but I still >don't know why hitting the + or - keys to change Track/Channel sometimes >seems to change what gets routed through what effects. At times it's kinda >startling, when playing a pattern. (Clarification: I mean sounds that one wouldn't think would be associated with the Track/Channel you're moving from or to are affected.) --- * Radio Free Entropy: http://just-john.com/cn/rfe.shtml * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: xl7-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
2002-02-22 by Aaron Eppolito
Sounds like you're in omni mode... That would cause the current preset (on the channel you just switched to) to choose which effects to use. Make sure you're in multi mode (in the MIDI menu). -Aaron just john wrote:
> >This is probably an obvious oversight on my part, easily fixed, but I still > >don't know why hitting the + or - keys to change Track/Channel sometimes > >seems to change what gets routed through what effects. At times it's kinda > >startling, when playing a pattern. > > (Clarification: I mean sounds that one wouldn't think would be associated > with the Track/Channel you're moving from or to are affected.)
2002-02-23 by Andre Lewis
huh, It actually sounds like you might have alternative midi channel info associated with each track from a MIDI type 1 import where a track in the original had a different channel assigned. When you play back a track it still transmits on the original channel (including channels you recorded with from your keyboard) not the same numbered track. This might help: From the FAQ: -How are Presets, Tracks and MIDI channels related to each other, it all seems a bit confusing? The organization of the Command Stations can be a bit confusing at first when it comes to the Track versus MIDI channel assignments. Once you understand how this relationship works, you'll see just how flexible these units are in terms of sequencing and MIDI. The basic concept to understand, is that a sequencer Track can be any assigned to control any MIDI channel, or all of them! So just because you're writing on Track 3, doesn't mean that you're stuck using only MIDI channel 3. You can freely assign any MIDI channels to any of the Tracks as you see fit. It's even possible to play all 16 MIDI channels on a single sequencer Track, giving you control over a possible 512 MIDI channels (16a Tracks, 16b Tracks, multiplied by 16 MIDI channels each)! However, because you can only use 32 internal channels, and 32 external channels at once, you are realistically only able to play 64 tracks at once, up to the polyphony limit of 128 voices. One of the most common mistakes people run into, is thinking that they are changing the active sequencer Track, when they are in reality only giving that Track a different MIDI channel. Example: Say you have selected Track 4 in Pattern mode as the active Track (as seen in the upper left hand corner of the display). If you press Preset to go into Preset mode, the Track number still is in the upper corner of the display right? Wrong, in Preset mode that number is the MIDI channel assigned to the Track, not the Track number. Therefore changing this number while in Preset mode does not select a new Track, but changes the MIDI channel assign to that Track. A very important thing to keep in mind while you're sequencing! It is also possible to change the MIDI Channel in the Note and Event List Editors for each note/event as well, should you have the need. All of this provides very flexible sequencing options, that unfortunately can be confusing if you're not aware of what's going on.
-----Original Message----- From: just john [mailto:justjohn@...] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 3:30 PM To: xl7@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [xl7] Why does changing the Track/Channel change the sound? >This is probably an obvious oversight on my part, easily fixed, but I still >don't know why hitting the + or - keys to change Track/Channel sometimes >seems to change what gets routed through what effects. At times it's kinda >startling, when playing a pattern. (Clarification: I mean sounds that one wouldn't think would be associated with the Track/Channel you're moving from or to are affected.) --- * Radio Free Entropy: http://just-john.com/cn/rfe.shtml * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: xl7-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
2002-02-23 by just john
That may have been it. It's in multi mode now, and I can't reproduce the situation (which was ocurring in playback) -- I was diddling the mode in the recent past. Thanks! >Sounds like you're in omni mode... > >That would cause the current preset (on the channel you just switched to) to >choose which effects to use. Make sure you're in multi mode (in the MIDI >menu). > >-Aaron > >just john wrote: > >> >This is probably an obvious oversight on my part, easily fixed, but I still >> >don't know why hitting the + or - keys to change Track/Channel sometimes >> >seems to change what gets routed through what effects. At times it's kinda >> >startling, when playing a pattern. >> >> (Clarification: I mean sounds that one wouldn't think would be associated >> with the Track/Channel you're moving from or to are affected.) > > > --- * Radio Free Entropy: http://just-john.com/cn/rfe.shtml *
2002-02-25 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com
You're changing the MIDI channel, not the track. Make sure that you're
not in Preset Edit mode when pressing Track +-/-.
rEalm
just john <justjohn@...>
02/22/02 05:26 PM
Please respond to xl7
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
cc: Subject: [xl7] Why does changing the Track/Channel change the sound? This is probably an obvious oversight on my part, easily fixed, but I still don't know why hitting the + or - keys to change Track/Channel sometimes seems to change what gets routed through what effects. At times it's kinda startling, when playing a pattern. --- * Radio Free Entropy: http://just-john.com/cn/rfe.shtml * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: xl7-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
2002-02-25 by just john
>You're changing the MIDI channel, not the track. Make sure that you're >not in Preset Edit mode when pressing Track +-/-. > >rEalm Wrong. I wasn't in preset mode. --- * Radio Free Entropy: http://just-john.com/cn/rfe.shtml *
2002-02-25 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com
Not trying to correct you, just FYI for others too. Remember you can be
in Preset Mode even while editing Patterns too.
rEalm
just john <justjohn@...>
02/25/02 07:57 AM
Please respond to xl7
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
cc: Subject: Re: [xl7] Why does changing the Track/Channel change the sound? >You're changing the MIDI channel, not the track. Make sure that you're >not in Preset Edit mode when pressing Track +-/-. > >rEalm Wrong. I wasn't in preset mode. --- * Radio Free Entropy: http://just-john.com/cn/rfe.shtml * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: xl7-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/