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ROM Authoring Success....

ROM Authoring Success....

2008-04-06 by Bob S.

Just to let the group know I was successful in creating my own sound
ROM for my XL7/PK6/XL1 synths using an Emu 16MB Flash ROM and an ESI
E6400 Ultra sampler....the process is not to difficult but there are
some definite things I had to work though which are not that well
documented.  The sound set was much more to my music genre but of
course, I maybe was able to put a few dozen waves on the ROM, nothing
like the originals that have 500 to 1000 samples in their 32MB ROM. 
When I get a chance, I will repeat and document the process for the
group....

Bob
El Segundo, CA

Re: ROM Authoring Success....

2008-04-06 by malik

TYVM!! i can't wait!!

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Bob S." <tttsystems@...> wrote:
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>
> Just to let the group know I was successful in creating my own sound
> ROM for my XL7/PK6/XL1 synths using an Emu 16MB Flash ROM and an ESI
> E6400 Ultra sampler....the process is not to difficult but there are
> some definite things I had to work though which are not that well
> documented.  The sound set was much more to my music genre but of
> course, I maybe was able to put a few dozen waves on the ROM, nothing
> like the originals that have 500 to 1000 samples in their 32MB ROM. 
> When I get a chance, I will repeat and document the process for the
> group....
> 
> Bob
> El Segundo, CA
>

Re: [xl7] Re: ROM Authoring Success....

2008-04-06 by Bob S.

Don't know why I put the letters ESI in front of the sampler model....the model is an Emu based EOS sampler, model name E6400 Ultra....but any Ultra of this series will work.....

Bob
El Segundo, CA


-----Original Message-----
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>From: malik <malik_martin@...>
>Sent: Apr 6, 2008 1:49 PM
>To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [xl7] Re: ROM Authoring Success....
>
>TYVM!! i can't wait!!
>
>--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Bob S." <tttsystems@...> wrote:
>>
>> Just to let the group know I was successful in creating my own sound
>> ROM for my XL7/PK6/XL1 synths using an Emu 16MB Flash ROM and an ESI
>> E6400 Ultra sampler....the process is not to difficult but there are
>> some definite things I had to work though which are not that well
>> documented.  The sound set was much more to my music genre but of
>> course, I maybe was able to put a few dozen waves on the ROM, nothing
>> like the originals that have 500 to 1000 samples in their 32MB ROM. 
>> When I get a chance, I will repeat and document the process for the
>> group....
>> 
>> Bob
>> El Segundo, CA
>>
>
>

Re: [xl7] Re: ROM Authoring Success....

2008-04-06 by jason rodgers

I have never tried this but what is the largest rom you can make in the sampler? 32mb. How does the compression work i know you said you cant fit as many waveforms as the facotry but could you make a useful rom? Thanks.

"Bob S." <tttsystems@...> wrote:          Don't know why I put the letters ESI in front of the sampler model....the model is an Emu based EOS sampler, model name E6400 Ultra....but any Ultra of this series will work.....

Bob
El Segundo, CA
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-----Original Message-----
>From: malik <malik_martin@...>
>Sent: Apr 6, 2008 1:49 PM
>To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [xl7] Re: ROM Authoring Success....
>
>TYVM!! i can't wait!!
>
>--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Bob S." <tttsystems@...> wrote:
>>
>> Just to let the group know I was successful in creating my own sound
>> ROM for my XL7/PK6/XL1 synths using an Emu 16MB Flash ROM and an ESI
>> E6400 Ultra sampler....the process is not to difficult but there are
>> some definite things I had to work though which are not that well
>> documented. The sound set was much more to my music genre but of
>> course, I maybe was able to put a few dozen waves on the ROM, nothing
>> like the originals that have 500 to 1000 samples in their 32MB ROM. 
>> When I get a chance, I will repeat and document the process for the
>> group....
>> 
>> Bob
>> El Segundo, CA
>>
>
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Re: [xl7] Re: ROM Authoring Success....

2008-04-06 by Bob S.

32MB ROMS, the largest ROM available, are still sporactically sighted on EBay. I have 2 of the 16MB ROMS from past purchases.  I don't believe there is any compression of sample data, the 15.9MB sample bank that I created on the sampler was all I could fit on the 16MB ROM.  However, some of my samples were in the range of .5 to 2 seconds in length, much larger than sometimes is necessary as I was including the portions of the wave that morphed and changed pitch in time rather than create a shorter fixed frequency/low modulation loop and let the XL7/PK6/XL1 perform the modulation in real time.....with a few of the factory ROMS and one or two custom ROMS, there might be every thing I need.....

Bob
El Segundo, CA


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>From: jason rodgers <fsmastering@...>
>Sent: Apr 6, 2008 2:14 PM
>To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: ROM Authoring Success....
>
>I have never tried this but what is the largest rom you can make in the sampler? 32mb. How does the compression work i know you said you cant fit as many waveforms as the facotry but could you make a useful rom? Thanks.
>
>"Bob S." <tttsystems@...> wrote:          Don't know why I put the letters ESI in front of the sampler model....the model is an Emu based EOS sampler, model name E6400 Ultra....but any Ultra of this series will work.....
>
>Bob
>El Segundo, CA
>
>-----Original Message-----
>>From: malik <malik_martin@...>
>>Sent: Apr 6, 2008 1:49 PM
>>To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
>>Subject: [xl7] Re: ROM Authoring Success....
>>
>>TYVM!! i can't wait!!
>>
>>--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Bob S." <tttsystems@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> Just to let the group know I was successful in creating my own sound
>>> ROM for my XL7/PK6/XL1 synths using an Emu 16MB Flash ROM and an ESI
>>> E6400 Ultra sampler....the process is not to difficult but there are
>>> some definite things I had to work though which are not that well
>>> documented. The sound set was much more to my music genre but of
>>> course, I maybe was able to put a few dozen waves on the ROM, nothing
>>> like the originals that have 500 to 1000 samples in their 32MB ROM. 
>>> When I get a chance, I will repeat and document the process for the
>>> group....
>>> 
>>> Bob
>>> El Segundo, CA
>>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: [xl7] Re: ROM Authoring Success....

2008-04-06 by jason rodgers

Can i ask if you did any keygroups on the rom for instruments and if so how many sections of the scale did you sample for them? I am interested in making some roms for my mp7 but have to wonder with the price of them if it is worth it.

"Bob S." <tttsystems@...> wrote:          32MB ROMS, the largest ROM available, are still sporactically sighted on EBay. I have 2 of the 16MB ROMS from past purchases. I don't believe there is any compression of sample data, the 15.9MB sample bank that I created on the sampler was all I could fit on the 16MB ROM. However, some of my samples were in the range of .5 to 2 seconds in length, much larger than sometimes is necessary as I was including the portions of the wave that morphed and changed pitch in time rather than create a shorter fixed frequency/low modulation loop and let the XL7/PK6/XL1 perform the modulation in real time.....with a few of the factory ROMS and one or two custom ROMS, there might be every thing I need.....

Bob
El Segundo, CA
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-----Original Message-----
>From: jason rodgers <fsmastering@...>
>Sent: Apr 6, 2008 2:14 PM
>To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: ROM Authoring Success....
>
>I have never tried this but what is the largest rom you can make in the sampler? 32mb. How does the compression work i know you said you cant fit as many waveforms as the facotry but could you make a useful rom? Thanks.
>
>"Bob S." <tttsystems@...> wrote: Don't know why I put the letters ESI in front of the sampler model....the model is an Emu based EOS sampler, model name E6400 Ultra....but any Ultra of this series will work.....
>
>Bob
>El Segundo, CA
>
>-----Original Message-----
>>From: malik <malik_martin@...>
>>Sent: Apr 6, 2008 1:49 PM
>>To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
>>Subject: [xl7] Re: ROM Authoring Success....
>>
>>TYVM!! i can't wait!!
>>
>>--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Bob S." <tttsystems@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> Just to let the group know I was successful in creating my own sound
>>> ROM for my XL7/PK6/XL1 synths using an Emu 16MB Flash ROM and an ESI
>>> E6400 Ultra sampler....the process is not to difficult but there are
>>> some definite things I had to work though which are not that well
>>> documented. The sound set was much more to my music genre but of
>>> course, I maybe was able to put a few dozen waves on the ROM, nothing
>>> like the originals that have 500 to 1000 samples in their 32MB ROM. 
>>> When I get a chance, I will repeat and document the process for the
>>> group....
>>> 
>>> Bob
>>> El Segundo, CA
>>>
>>
>>
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>
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Re: [xl7] Re: ROM Authoring Success....

2008-04-06 by Bob S.

Depends on what you are trying to do....the closer you are trying to reproduce a known sound or sound characteristic, the more you have to rely on multi-samples across the keyboard.  For what I wanted, synthesized sounds, no acoustic instrument reproductions, I used the maximum of 2 samples per octave.  In many cases, I wanted to capture a sound that was useful only in a very limiting frequency range, so I used 1 or 2 samples for the whole keyboard.....

Bob
El Segundo, CA


-----Original Message-----
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>From: jason rodgers <fsmastering@...>
>Sent: Apr 6, 2008 2:49 PM
>To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: ROM Authoring Success....
>
>Can i ask if you did any keygroups on the rom for instruments and if so how many sections of the scale did you sample for them? I am interested in making some roms for my mp7 but have to wonder with the price of them if it is worth it.
>
>"Bob S." <tttsystems@...> wrote:          32MB ROMS, the largest ROM available, are still sporactically sighted on EBay. I have 2 of the 16MB ROMS from past purchases. I don't believe there is any compression of sample data, the 15.9MB sample bank that I created on the sampler was all I could fit on the 16MB ROM. However, some of my samples were in the range of .5 to 2 seconds in length, much larger than sometimes is necessary as I was including the portions of the wave that morphed and changed pitch in time rather than create a shorter fixed frequency/low modulation loop and let the XL7/PK6/XL1 perform the modulation in real time.....with a few of the factory ROMS and one or two custom ROMS, there might be every thing I need.....
>
>Bob
>El Segundo, CA
>
>-----Original Message-----
>>From: jason rodgers <fsmastering@...>
>>Sent: Apr 6, 2008 2:14 PM
>>To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
>>Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: ROM Authoring Success....
>>
>>I have never tried this but what is the largest rom you can make in the sampler? 32mb. How does the compression work i know you said you cant fit as many waveforms as the facotry but could you make a useful rom? Thanks.
>>
>>"Bob S." <tttsystems@...> wrote: Don't know why I put the letters ESI in front of the sampler model....the model is an Emu based EOS sampler, model name E6400 Ultra....but any Ultra of this series will work.....
>>
>>Bob
>>El Segundo, CA
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: malik <malik_martin@...>
>>>Sent: Apr 6, 2008 1:49 PM
>>>To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
>>>Subject: [xl7] Re: ROM Authoring Success....
>>>
>>>TYVM!! i can't wait!!
>>>
>>>--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Bob S." <tttsystems@...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Just to let the group know I was successful in creating my own sound
>>>> ROM for my XL7/PK6/XL1 synths using an Emu 16MB Flash ROM and an ESI
>>>> E6400 Ultra sampler....the process is not to difficult but there are
>>>> some definite things I had to work though which are not that well
>>>> documented. The sound set was much more to my music genre but of
>>>> course, I maybe was able to put a few dozen waves on the ROM, nothing
>>>> like the originals that have 500 to 1000 samples in their 32MB ROM. 
>>>> When I get a chance, I will repeat and document the process for the
>>>> group....
>>>> 
>>>> Bob
>>>> El Segundo, CA
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
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Re: [xl7] Re: ROM Authoring Success....

2008-04-06 by jason rodgers

I like taking my mp-7 only along with me to friends houses and play along or out to do tracks with but i find that even with the mp-7 rom and the xlead version 2 rom i need sounds that i do not have access to. I think i might just need to buy 2 more roms for it but there are alot of sounds i use constantly ( like drum kits i have made ) that i would like to have access to. I also have a asr-x with the urban dance rom which i really like and i think there is a ensoniq rom for the emu out there but i am not sure if it is the same sounds and i use alot of the basses and such on that. When you make a rom i am guessing you gain the ability to use all the patchchord and effects with it. Was there a way to program in the use of the modulation knob on the command station? Like some sounds you can add vibrato or fills to the drums and such? Sorry for so many questions but i am really into my commandstation and this would be a really nice way to make it even more usable for me. I
 guess you have to have a ultra sampler and a 32mb rom ( if i can find one ) Thanks again bob

"Bob S." <tttsystems@...> wrote:          Depends on what you are trying to do....the closer you are trying to reproduce a known sound or sound characteristic, the more you have to rely on multi-samples across the keyboard. For what I wanted, synthesized sounds, no acoustic instrument reproductions, I used the maximum of 2 samples per octave. In many cases, I wanted to capture a sound that was useful only in a very limiting frequency range, so I used 1 or 2 samples for the whole keyboard.....

Bob
El Segundo, CA
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-----Original Message-----
>From: jason rodgers <fsmastering@...>
>Sent: Apr 6, 2008 2:49 PM
>To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: ROM Authoring Success....
>
>Can i ask if you did any keygroups on the rom for instruments and if so how many sections of the scale did you sample for them? I am interested in making some roms for my mp7 but have to wonder with the price of them if it is worth it.
>
>"Bob S." <tttsystems@...> wrote: 32MB ROMS, the largest ROM available, are still sporactically sighted on EBay. I have 2 of the 16MB ROMS from past purchases. I don't believe there is any compression of sample data, the 15.9MB sample bank that I created on the sampler was all I could fit on the 16MB ROM. However, some of my samples were in the range of .5 to 2 seconds in length, much larger than sometimes is necessary as I was including the portions of the wave that morphed and changed pitch in time rather than create a shorter fixed frequency/low modulation loop and let the XL7/PK6/XL1 perform the modulation in real time.....with a few of the factory ROMS and one or two custom ROMS, there might be every thing I need.....
>
>Bob
>El Segundo, CA
>
>-----Original Message-----
>>From: jason rodgers <fsmastering@...>
>>Sent: Apr 6, 2008 2:14 PM
>>To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
>>Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: ROM Authoring Success....
>>
>>I have never tried this but what is the largest rom you can make in the sampler? 32mb. How does the compression work i know you said you cant fit as many waveforms as the facotry but could you make a useful rom? Thanks.
>>
>>"Bob S." <tttsystems@...> wrote: Don't know why I put the letters ESI in front of the sampler model....the model is an Emu based EOS sampler, model name E6400 Ultra....but any Ultra of this series will work.....
>>
>>Bob
>>El Segundo, CA
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: malik <malik_martin@...>
>>>Sent: Apr 6, 2008 1:49 PM
>>>To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
>>>Subject: [xl7] Re: ROM Authoring Success....
>>>
>>>TYVM!! i can't wait!!
>>>
>>>--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Bob S." <tttsystems@...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Just to let the group know I was successful in creating my own sound
>>>> ROM for my XL7/PK6/XL1 synths using an Emu 16MB Flash ROM and an ESI
>>>> E6400 Ultra sampler....the process is not to difficult but there are
>>>> some definite things I had to work though which are not that well
>>>> documented. The sound set was much more to my music genre but of
>>>> course, I maybe was able to put a few dozen waves on the ROM, nothing
>>>> like the originals that have 500 to 1000 samples in their 32MB ROM. 
>>>> When I get a chance, I will repeat and document the process for the
>>>> group....
>>>> 
>>>> Bob
>>>> El Segundo, CA
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
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>>You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost.
>>
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>
>
> 
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> 
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Re: ROM Authoring Success....

2008-04-09 by dantalianalysis

not sure exactly what you are saying but the zr-76
rom is good for drums
you best look at the individual wave form list for all the roms
you have that gives a guide to what you can make by layering
up to four of them
the zr-76 rom seems to be mainly drums and perc
once you take out the 50% of the space allocated to the perfect piano
you could get an emulator x and use a laptop with the software 
versions instead
Sam

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, jason rodgers <fsmastering@...> wrote:
>
> I like taking my mp-7 only along with me to friends houses and play 
along or out to do tracks with but i find that even with the mp-7 rom 
and the xlead version 2 rom i need sounds that i do not have access 
to. I think i might just need to buy 2 more roms for it but there are 
alot of sounds i use constantly ( like drum kits i have made ) that i 
would like to have access to. I also have a asr-x with the urban 
dance rom which i really like and i think there is a ensoniq rom for 
the emu out there but i am not sure if it is the same sounds and i 
use alot of the basses and such on that. When you make a rom i am 
guessing you gain the ability to use all the patchchord and effects 
with it. Was there a way to program in the use of the modulation knob 
on the command station? Like some sounds you can add vibrato or fills 
to the drums and such? Sorry for so many questions but i am really 
into my commandstation and this would be a really nice way to make it 
even more usable for me. I
>  guess you have to have a ultra sampler and a 32mb rom ( if i can 
find one ) Thanks again bob
> 
> "Bob S." <tttsystems@...> wrote:          Depends on what you are 
trying to do....the closer you are trying to reproduce a known sound 
or sound characteristic, the more you have to rely on multi-samples 
across the keyboard. For what I wanted, synthesized sounds, no 
acoustic instrument reproductions, I used the maximum of 2 samples 
per octave. In many cases, I wanted to capture a sound that was 
useful only in a very limiting frequency range, so I used 1 or 2 
samples for the whole keyboard.....
> 
> Bob
> El Segundo, CA
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: jason rodgers <fsmastering@...>
> >Sent: Apr 6, 2008 2:49 PM
> >To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: ROM Authoring Success....
> >
> >Can i ask if you did any keygroups on the rom for instruments and 
if so how many sections of the scale did you sample for them? I am 
interested in making some roms for my mp7 but have to wonder with the 
price of them if it is worth it.
> >
> >"Bob S." <tttsystems@...> wrote: 32MB ROMS, the largest ROM 
available, are still sporactically sighted on EBay. I have 2 of the 
16MB ROMS from past purchases. I don't believe there is any 
compression of sample data, the 15.9MB sample bank that I created on 
the sampler was all I could fit on the 16MB ROM. However, some of my 
samples were in the range of .5 to 2 seconds in length, much larger 
than sometimes is necessary as I was including the portions of the 
wave that morphed and changed pitch in time rather than create a 
shorter fixed frequency/low modulation loop and let the XL7/PK6/XL1 
perform the modulation in real time.....with a few of the factory 
ROMS and one or two custom ROMS, there might be every thing I 
need.....
> >
> >Bob
> >El Segundo, CA
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >>From: jason rodgers <fsmastering@...>
> >>Sent: Apr 6, 2008 2:14 PM
> >>To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> >>Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: ROM Authoring Success....
> >>
> >>I have never tried this but what is the largest rom you can make 
in the sampler? 32mb. How does the compression work i know you said 
you cant fit as many waveforms as the facotry but could you make a 
useful rom? Thanks.
> >>
> >>"Bob S." <tttsystems@...> wrote: Don't know why I put the letters 
ESI in front of the sampler model....the model is an Emu based EOS 
sampler, model name E6400 Ultra....but any Ultra of this series will 
work.....
> >>
> >>Bob
> >>El Segundo, CA
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: malik <malik_martin@...>
> >>>Sent: Apr 6, 2008 1:49 PM
> >>>To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> >>>Subject: [xl7] Re: ROM Authoring Success....
> >>>
> >>>TYVM!! i can't wait!!
> >>>
> >>>--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Bob S." <tttsystems@> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Just to let the group know I was successful in creating my own 
sound
> >>>> ROM for my XL7/PK6/XL1 synths using an Emu 16MB Flash ROM and 
an ESI
> >>>> E6400 Ultra sampler....the process is not to difficult but 
there are
> >>>> some definite things I had to work though which are not that 
well
> >>>> documented. The sound set was much more to my music genre but 
of
> >>>> course, I maybe was able to put a few dozen waves on the ROM, 
nothing
> >>>> like the originals that have 500 to 1000 samples in their 32MB 
ROM. 
> >>>> When I get a chance, I will repeat and document the process 
for the
> >>>> group....
> >>>> 
> >>>> Bob
> >>>> El Segundo, CA
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
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[xl7] Preset Save Problems

2008-04-14 by Dacian Victor

Hi, 
i have a problem with saving preset's.
I edit Preset through Front panel knobs and finally i save the preset in a user location, i also get the confirmation of save succes. 
But later when i play the pattern the present sounds exactly like original one.
What do you think should be?
thank's

        

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Re: [xl7] Preset Save Problems

2008-04-14 by Mibrilane

On Apr 14, 2008, at 12:06 AM, Dacian Victor wrote:

>
>
> Hi,
> i have a problem with saving preset's.
> I edit Preset through Front panel knobs and finally i save the  
> preset in a user location, i also get the confirmation of save succes.
> But later when i play the pattern the present sounds exactly like  
> original one.
> What do you think should be?
> thank's

Did you tell the pattern to load the newly saved preset, or the  
original one?

Mibrilane
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