Stop, stop! Now thats something to learn, thanx a lot for your
effort, andre!.
You guys are way ahead of my skills how to make the best of the synth
department. Seems I have to go back to skool!
Heinrich
--- In xl7@y..., "bassmeister3000" <andrel@s...> wrote:
> > So my question is: Why did EMu put so much effort in sound
fiddling
> > possibilities and offer such a limited effect section? An
extended
> but
> > easy to use efx section is what most users are after, I guess. So
> do I.
> > How many of you are really (!) working with the programming
> features of
> > the XX-7?
>
> IMHO the basis for all of this that
> A) Analog or Virtual Analog creates nearly infinate sound based on
> the equivelant of two to four samples such as a sine sample, a
> triangle sample, a square sample, etc. Sure you can manipulate it
a
> little better, like changing a pulse width, but in essence it's
very
> simple. Imagine that your new XL7/MP7 has the ablility to have not
4
> to 16 wave types but 512+. It has all the envelopes, all the LFO's
> per layer, all the tools needed to really really make stuff no one
> has heard. The only real difference is there aren't enough
> knobs/sliders.
> B) Essentially the original soundsets are based off of rack mount
> sounds, many of which weren't made for you. No problem, you make
> your own. More importantly they added control to it. You now own
> one of the most impressive sound modules out there WITH full
controll
> over just about everything, AND a sequencer.
>
> C) If you think that these effects are too few, and the programing
> too hard, get a Yamaha DX7. FM (Frequency Modulation) programming
is
> orders of magnitude harder, it's crazy. Chances are you even own
the
> equivelant in your computers sound card. But the large number of
> analog synths, and even newer synths have very few effects in them,
> and when they are included you won't want to use them- they won't
> sound as good as outboard anyway.
>
> D) Nine times out of ten you may want to use a preset, but you
think,
> MAN! They set the preset up without making the aftertouch copy the
> mod wheel and I need all ten fingers for the solo! I can fix it
> quickly and voila! Or maybe I want a long slow filter sweep to
> happen automatically etc. But maybe I want the leslie effect to
> speed up or slow down like a real leslie. Well on most synths, I'd
> have a hard time, but not the command stations! Just a few quick
> patchcords and it sounds like an effect!
>
> E) I can totally fake a huge number of effects, because all they
are
> are the same sounds offset in time or panned differently or
> whattever. For instance, make a drum track. Duplicate it and it's
> parameters. In your external sequencer, shift the new track a
little
> bit later, voila instand flanging, then phasing then delay lines
> etc. Put an LFO on the pan position and sync to midi clock, a
synced
> envelope on amp envelope, voila multi tap panning delays. Sure it
> eats up some polyphany, but you don't use the effects and you can
get
> away with a ton.
>
> F) The basics for the sounds are the same accross the grand number
of
> manufacturers. Four samples with crossfaded velocities two to four
> envelopes, two to four syncable LFO's, Filters, etc. The only
thing
> that changes is the modulation matrix/patch cords and the number of
> stages in the envelopes. The rest is candy for fine tuning.
> Examples: Alesis QS series, Roland MC505-XV88, All EMU gear, Access
> Virus. Getting your head round this stuff will make everyones gear
> that much easier. Of course I agree the manual is pretty shoddy in
> this area.
>
> G) You paid god knows how much money for the command station, it
will
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> be able to grow with you, especially when you get sick of whatever
> patches are loaded in 000.
>
>
> And to make this all worth while, here is an incredible resource to
> learning what synthesis is all about:
>
> http://www.sospubs.co.uk/search/query.asp?
> Synth+Secrets+Part
>
> Andre