Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

I just got a XL-7 and immediately upgraded to 1.18.  I am having 
problems when I have the XL-7 synced to Cubase and I want to jump 
into grid record mode (hold play then hit record).  The XL-7 will 
only allow me to record with the preset from the track I originally 
had selected.  So for instance I start with track 9 for bass and I 
then change to track 1 for kick, it will only record more bass notes 
even though the pads are playing the kick when I hit them.  It gets 
worse ....
I hit stop on Cubase then RTZ the XL-7.  Then I go back into grid 
record on the XL-7 without starting Cubase.  I have the same 
problem ... it is still recording bass notes even though I have 
selected track 01A for kick.  Changing pattern and recording from 
there does not fix it.  I have to reboot the XL-7 then everything is 
OK ... until I sync to Cubase again of course.  Is this a MIDI issue 
or a horrible bug?
Second problem ... when in step record ... how to I go back a step?  
I know I can go forward by hitting Play but ...
And lastly ... in realtime record, what is the easiest way to delete 
or overwrite a bum note when recording in a loop?
Thanks for your help,
Justin.

So for instance I start with track 9 for bass and I 
> then change to track 1 for kick, it will only record more bass 
notes 
> even though the pads are playing the kick when I hit them.

-- Check to make sure you are not just scrolling to a new preset on 
the bass TRACK.  You have to be on the Kick track to record kick 
otherwise it will record more bass notes (it's MIDI notes).  
Changing presets doesn't necessarily mean you are changing tracks.

Second problem ... when in step record ... how to I go back a step?  
> I know I can go forward by hitting Play but ...

-- While the XL7 is playing in grid mode you don't have an option to 
select which inbetween bars to loop, XL7 loops entirely from the 
first bar to the last and repeats that cycle.  If you want to edit 
certain inbetween bars/measures, stop the xl7 and select 'bar/beat', 
highlight 'edit' and use the scroll dial to navigate to your desired 
bar/measure.

And lastly ... in realtime record, what is the easiest way to delete 
> or overwrite a bum note when recording in a loop?

-- go into the pattern edit menu and scroll to the note list 
editor.  from there you can choose which track to view your record 
notes...it will probably as you to choose 'enter' to view all 
notes.  from there you can erase volume and/or duration.  you can 
also use the erase events or erase notes if you get crafty.

hope that helps a little.



--- In xl7@y..., "grimleyj2000" <grimley@i...> wrote:
> I just got a XL-7 and immediately upgraded to 1.18.  I am having 
> problems when I have the XL-7 synced to Cubase and I want to jump 
> into grid record mode (hold play then hit record).  The XL-7 will 
> only allow me to record with the preset from the track I 
originally 
> had selected.  So for instance I start with track 9 for bass and I 
> then change to track 1 for kick, it will only record more bass 
notes 
> even though the pads are playing the kick when I hit them.  It 
gets 
> worse ....
> I hit stop on Cubase then RTZ the XL-7.  Then I go back into grid 
> record on the XL-7 without starting Cubase.  I have the same 
> problem ... it is still recording bass notes even though I have 
> selected track 01A for kick.  Changing pattern and recording from 
> there does not fix it.  I have to reboot the XL-7 then everything 
is 
> OK ... until I sync to Cubase again of course.  Is this a MIDI 
issue 
> or a horrible bug?
> Second problem ... when in step record ... how to I go back a 
step?  
> I know I can go forward by hitting Play but ...
> And lastly ... in realtime record, what is the easiest way to 
delete 

> or overwrite a bum note when recording in a loop?
> Thanks for your help,
> Justin.

Tommy,
Thanks for the reply ... appreciated ... however ...

Problem 1:
I am actually changing tracks by using the Track/Channel buttons to 
the left of the green LCD.  Again, when I reset the XL-7 everything 
works as expected again.

Problem 2:
I am referring to Step Record mode and not Grid mode.

Problem 3:
Got it ... cheers!

Justin.

--- In xl7@y..., "tommy_trance" <tommy_trance@y...> wrote:
> So for instance I start with track 9 for bass and I 
> > then change to track 1 for kick, it will only record more bass 
> notes 
> > even though the pads are playing the kick when I hit them.
> 
> -- Check to make sure you are not just scrolling to a new preset on 
> the bass TRACK.  You have to be on the Kick track to record kick 
> otherwise it will record more bass notes (it's MIDI notes).  
> Changing presets doesn't necessarily mean you are changing tracks.
> 
> Second problem ... when in step record ... how to I go back a 
step?  
> > I know I can go forward by hitting Play but ...
> 
> -- While the XL7 is playing in grid mode you don't have an option 
to 
> select which inbetween bars to loop, XL7 loops entirely from the 
> first bar to the last and repeats that cycle.  If you want to edit 
> certain inbetween bars/measures, stop the xl7 and 
select 'bar/beat', 
> highlight 'edit' and use the scroll dial to navigate to your 
desired 
> bar/measure.
> 
> And lastly ... in realtime record, what is the easiest way to 
delete 
> > or overwrite a bum note when recording in a loop?
> 
> -- go into the pattern edit menu and scroll to the note list 
> editor.  from there you can choose which track to view your record 
> notes...it will probably as you to choose 'enter' to view all 
> notes.  from there you can erase volume and/or duration.  you can 
> also use the erase events or erase notes if you get crafty.
> 
> hope that helps a little.
> 
> 
> 
> --- In xl7@y..., "grimleyj2000" <grimley@i...> wrote:
> > I just got a XL-7 and immediately upgraded to 1.18.  I am having 
> > problems when I have the XL-7 synced to Cubase and I want to jump 
> > into grid record mode (hold play then hit record).  The XL-7 will 
> > only allow me to record with the preset from the track I 
> originally 
> > had selected.  So for instance I start with track 9 for bass and 
I 

> > then change to track 1 for kick, it will only record more bass 
> notes 
> > even though the pads are playing the kick when I hit them.  It 
> gets 
> > worse ....
> > I hit stop on Cubase then RTZ the XL-7.  Then I go back into grid 
> > record on the XL-7 without starting Cubase.  I have the same 
> > problem ... it is still recording bass notes even though I have 
> > selected track 01A for kick.  Changing pattern and recording from 
> > there does not fix it.  I have to reboot the XL-7 then everything 
> is 
> > OK ... until I sync to Cubase again of course.  Is this a MIDI 
> issue 
> > or a horrible bug?
> > Second problem ... when in step record ... how to I go back a 
> step?  
> > I know I can go forward by hitting Play but ...
> > And lastly ... in realtime record, what is the easiest way to 
> delete 
> > or overwrite a bum note when recording in a loop?
> > Thanks for your help,
> > Justin.

I am having problems when I have the XL-7 synced to Cubase and I want to 
jump into grid record mode (hold play then hit record).  The XL-7 will 
only allow me to record with the preset from the track I originally had 
selected.  So for instance I start with track 9 for bass and I then change 
to track 1 for kick, it will only record more bass notes even though the 
pads are playing the kick when I hit them.

>>>This can be very confusing on the XL-7, as the track select buttons to 
the left of the LCD select differnt things depending on which screen/mode 
you're in.  First of all, realize that any track, can be any MIDI channel, 
they're not fixed assignments.  While extremely flexible, this can also be 
very confusing too, especially if start moving around while recording! 
Here's a quick breakdown:

While in Pattern mode, those buttons do change the track as you mentioned. 
 However, if you press Preset to select a new Preset, they now control the 
MIDI Channel, not the track number.  So while you may been on track 9 
originally, pressing the track select buttons while looking at the preset 
name means you're just changing the channel used on THAT track (#9).  Your 
best bet is to make sure you leave Preset mode, select the correct track, 
then go back into Preset mode to scroll through your sounds.  Also, if 
you're doing GRID recording, pay close attention to what channel is shown 
in the display when you enter this mode, as it defaults to the last 
channel you recorded on, NOT the current track!  Read my FAQ in the files 
section of this group for more info on this relationship. <<<

Second problem ... when in step record ... how to I go back a step?  I 
know I can go forward by hitting Play but ...

>>>Nope, you can't do it.  Step-time record is pretty rudimentary 
currently, you can't tie notes either :( <<<

And lastly ... in realtime record, what is the easiest way to delete or 
overwrite a bum note when recording in a loop?

>>>I believe you hold down that note while pressing ERASE as the pattern 
plays. <<<

Thanks for your help

>>>De nada, welcome to our group! <<<

rEalm

rEalm,
Thanks for taking the time to explain this ... very much 
appreciated.  
Justin.

--- In xl7@y..., erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> I am having problems when I have the XL-7 synced to Cubase and I 
want to 
> jump into grid record mode (hold play then hit record).  The XL-7 
will 
> only allow me to record with the preset from the track I originally 
had 
> selected.  So for instance I start with track 9 for bass and I then 
change 
> to track 1 for kick, it will only record more bass notes even 
though the 
> pads are playing the kick when I hit them.
> 
> >>>This can be very confusing on the XL-7, as the track select 
buttons to 
> the left of the LCD select differnt things depending on which 
screen/mode 
> you're in.  First of all, realize that any track, can be any MIDI 
channel, 
> they're not fixed assignments.  While extremely flexible, this can 
also be 
> very confusing too, especially if start moving around while 
recording! 
> Here's a quick breakdown:
> 
> While in Pattern mode, those buttons do change the track as you 
mentioned. 
>  However, if you press Preset to select a new Preset, they now 
control the 
> MIDI Channel, not the track number.  So while you may been on track 
9 
> originally, pressing the track select buttons while looking at the 
preset 
> name means you're just changing the channel used on THAT track 
(#9).  Your 
> best bet is to make sure you leave Preset mode, select the correct 
track, 
> then go back into Preset mode to scroll through your sounds.  Also, 
if 
> you're doing GRID recording, pay close attention to what channel is 
shown 
> in the display when you enter this mode, as it defaults to the last 
> channel you recorded on, NOT the current track!  Read my FAQ in the 
files 
> section of this group for more info on this relationship. <<<
> 
> Second problem ... when in step record ... how to I go back a 
step?  I 
> know I can go forward by hitting Play but ...
> 
> >>>Nope, you can't do it.  Step-time record is pretty rudimentary 
> currently, you can't tie notes either :( <<<
> 
> And lastly ... in realtime record, what is the easiest way to 
delete or 
> overwrite a bum note when recording in a loop?
> 
> >>>I believe you hold down that note while pressing ERASE as the 
pattern 

> plays. <<<
> 
> Thanks for your help
> 
> >>>De nada, welcome to our group! <<<
> 
> rEalm

Did it fix your problem?

rEalm



rEalm,
Thanks for taking the time to explain this ... very much 
appreciated. 
Justin.


> 
> >>>This can be very confusing on the XL-7, as the track select 
buttons to 
> the left of the LCD select differnt things depending on which 
screen/mode 
> you're in.  First of all, realize that any track, can be any MIDI 
channel, 
> they're not fixed assignments.  While extremely flexible, this can 
also be 
> very confusing too, especially if start moving around while 
recording!

rEalm,
Yup, that works ... I have seen a couple of quirks though where I 
needed to exit record, and re-enable it before it would let me 
change track.  This may have been me just getting confused again, 
although If I can reliably recreate the steps involved i will post 
to the forum.
Thanks again,
Justin.

--- In xl7@y..., erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> Did it fix your problem?
> 
> rEalm
> 
> 
> 
> rEalm,
> Thanks for taking the time to explain this ... very much 
> appreciated. 
> Justin.
> 
> 
> > 
> > >>>This can be very confusing on the XL-7, as the track select 
> buttons to 
> > the left of the LCD select differnt things depending on which 
> screen/mode 
> > you're in.  First of all, realize that any track, can be any 
MIDI 
> channel, 
> > they're not fixed assignments.  While extremely flexible, this 
can 

> also be 
> > very confusing too, especially if start moving around while 
> recording!

Anytime you're bouncing between tracks while recording, it can get 
confusing.  I had the same issues until I realized that REC mode sometimes 
defaults to the last track you were recording, not always the current on. 
Weird, but I'm sure the Emu techs are on it.  It pays to always check that 
little track/channel indicator in the upper left of the screen.

rEalm



rEalm,
Yup, that works ... I have seen a couple of quirks though where I 
needed to exit record, and re-enable it before it would let me 
change track.  This may have been me just getting confused again, 
although If I can reliably recreate the steps involved i will post 
to the forum.