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Midiquest, Unisyn, ???

Midiquest, Unisyn, ???

2005-12-28 by mike

Anyone running editor/librarian software on Mac OSX -Tiger  that can give me some 
direction?  From what I could research, Unisyn seems better, but maybe that's changed- or 
there's other (even better) software I'm not aware of?  

My goal is to be able to edit patterns on my Powerbook and release my old iMac (OS9, OMS, 
eLoader, ect.) to the hounds.

Thanks in advance!!
Mike

Re: [xl7] Midiquest, Unisyn, ???

2005-12-29 by Mibrilane

On Dec 28, 2005, at 12:59 PM, mike wrote:

> Anyone running editor/librarian software on Mac OSX -Tiger  that  
> can give me some
> direction?  From what I could research, Unisyn seems better, but  
> maybe that's changed- or
> there's other (even better) software I'm not aware of?

Well, I personally use MOTU Unisyn - it hasn't been updated for a  
while but the Command Station profile works ok, at least with the  
MP-7 and XL-7. There is no profile for the PX-7 - fortunately for me  
I have both the MP-7 and XL-7 ROMs in my PX-7, so Unisyn recognizes  
the PX as an XL-7.


> My goal is to be able to edit patterns on my Powerbook and release  
> my old iMac (OS9, OMS,
> eLoader, ect.) to the hounds.

I'm not sure about Midiquest, but Unisyn only has editor/librarian  
facilities for the patches and the arpeggios, not the patterns. To do  
pattern dumps I still boot my G4 back into Mac OS 9 - I've been  
trying to get the USB to work with Virtual PC and Windows XP, but it  
seems twitchy and won't recognize the port properly. Grr!

For patch editing and arpeggio editing, though, Unisyn is ace. It  
also integrates very nicely with MOTU Digital Performer  
(automagically updated patch lists, etc.)

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Mibrilane





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Re: Midiquest, Unisyn, ???

2005-12-29 by mike

Thanks for the info.  I didn't realize that Unisyn doesn't work with patterns.  The arps and 
patch editing looked cool though.

I have the same ROMs you have- even though Unisyn doesn't recognize the PX ROM, can 
you do any editing with it?

I may have to partition the hard drive on my powerbook and install OS 9 so I can boot up 
in it.  Another thing I am going to investigate is some software I stumbled across.  I don't 
know if it would help get eloader working with OSX, but here's a clip of the description.

"What is MidiBridge9X? 
MidiBridge9X is a combination OMS driver and OS X application that allows 
applications running in Classic to communicate with CoreMidi MIDI devices. 
MidiBridge9X was developed specifically to allow you to continue to use MIDI 
applications that only run under Classic. Because there are numerous 
applications out there that will never be ported to MacOS X, brings an entire 
world of MacOS 9/OMS legacy applications back to life."

Mike



--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Mibrilane <mibrilane@c...> wrote:
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> On Dec 28, 2005, at 12:59 PM, mike wrote:
> 
> > Anyone running editor/librarian software on Mac OSX -Tiger  that  
> > can give me some
> > direction?  From what I could research, Unisyn seems better, but  
> > maybe that's changed- or
> > there's other (even better) software I'm not aware of?
> 
> Well, I personally use MOTU Unisyn - it hasn't been updated for a  
> while but the Command Station profile works ok, at least with the  
> MP-7 and XL-7. There is no profile for the PX-7 - fortunately for me  
> I have both the MP-7 and XL-7 ROMs in my PX-7, so Unisyn recognizes  
> the PX as an XL-7.
> 
> 
> > My goal is to be able to edit patterns on my Powerbook and release  
> > my old iMac (OS9, OMS,
> > eLoader, ect.) to the hounds.
> 
> I'm not sure about Midiquest, but Unisyn only has editor/librarian  
> facilities for the patches and the arpeggios, not the patterns. To do  
> pattern dumps I still boot my G4 back into Mac OS 9 - I've been  
> trying to get the USB to work with Virtual PC and Windows XP, but it  
> seems twitchy and won't recognize the port properly. Grr!
> 
> For patch editing and arpeggio editing, though, Unisyn is ace. It  
> also integrates very nicely with MOTU Digital Performer  
> (automagically updated patch lists, etc.)
> 
> ---
> Mibrilane
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Re: [xl7] Re: Midiquest, Unisyn, ???

2005-12-29 by Mibrilane

On Dec 29, 2005, at 5:44 AM, mike wrote:

> I have the same ROMs you have- even though Unisyn doesn't recognize  
> the PX ROM, can
> you do any editing with it?

Well, it recognizes the ROM as an expansion ROM (Protean Drums ROM)  
but it doesn't recognize the PX-7 as an instrument - only the MP-7  
and XL-7. So, I have my PX set up in Unisyn as an XL-7 with the MP-7,  
Protean Drums, and Beat Garden ROMs. It works just fine set up that way.

I'll have to check out MIDIBridge9X - I've read about that but  
haven't tried it with E-Loader. Theoretically, E-Loader is a Java  
program that could be re-compiled for Mac OS X with some tweaking,  
but I don't think E-mu is interested in continuing support for the  
Command Stations.

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Mibrilane





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Re: Midiquest, Unisyn, ???

2005-12-29 by mike

> but I don't think E-mu is interested in continuing support for the  
> Command Stations.

But the pdf file says, "E-Loader USB Support is not yet available on Macintosh systems. Look 
for a release with USB support in the Summer of 2002."  I keep looking, but it must not be 
2002 yet (:p

Kidding aside, I'll try the Midibridge software tonight and see how it goes.  If there's any 
success, I'll be sure to post.

Thanks again for the info!!

Mike

Re: [xl7] Re: Midiquest, Unisyn, ???

2005-12-30 by Mibrilane

On Dec 29, 2005, at 7:22 AM, mike wrote:

> But the pdf file says, "E-Loader USB Support is not yet available  
> on Macintosh systems. Look
> for a release with USB support in the Summer of 2002."  I keep  
> looking, but it must not be
> 2002 yet (:p
>
> Kidding aside, I'll try the Midibridge software tonight and see how  
> it goes.  If there's any
> success, I'll be sure to post.
>
> Thanks again for the info!!

I set up MidiBridge9X and I can now dump and retrieve patterns to and  
from the PX-7 running E-Loader in Classic. Not bad. :D

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Mibrilane





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Re: Midiquest, Unisyn, ???

2005-12-30 by mike

Mibrilane,  Glad it worked for you- as usual though, I'm not so lucky. I totally forgot about 
the problem I had last year when I tried eloader with (my old) powerbook.  Somehow, 
eloader file gets corrupted during installation.  I'll have to physically copy the installed file 
from my old iMac onto a zip disk and transfer to my powerbook.  From what I remember, 
it worked- at least I got to the eloader screen without the "missing file and can't be 
opened" error message.  

Are you able to boot in OS9? (just wondering how you ended up with a working eloader 
app)  

Thanks for trying it out, at least I know there's some promise.  It'd be worth the $30 if it's 
reliable.

Cheers,
Mike
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 > I set up MidiBridge9X and I can now dump and retrieve patterns to and  
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Re: [xl7] Re: Midiquest, Unisyn, ???

2005-12-30 by Mibrilane

On Dec 29, 2005, at 9:19 PM, mike wrote:

> Are you able to boot in OS9? (just wondering how you ended up with  
> a working eloader
> app)

Yeah, I have a QuickSilver 2002 G4 (upgraded to dual 1.4GHz) and  
fortunately it boots into Mac OS 9. The only things I find myself  
booting into Mac OS 9 are E-Loader and ReBirth. Now that E-Loader  
works in Classic, it seems I'll be booting into 9 much less often.

> Thanks for trying it out, at least I know there's some promise.   
> It'd be worth the $30 if it's
> reliable.

I'm not sure if it is worth $30, but it works fine for the free demo  
15 minutes at a time, which is enough for me. :D

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Mibrilane





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