I will use it only as a midi controller, but I don't like it very
much neither. keyboard is really plastic, buttons are not well
aligned, and it lacks of usefull function such as saving controllers
assignement, or split the keyboard. I think i will change it with
something smaller and of better quality, when I'll have the budget
for that!
--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...>
wrote:
>
> Based on our conversation, I picked up a used evolution (on ebay).
I
> see the problem first-hand with the lack of midi in. Using the
> SB/Creative midi i/o should solve your original problem.
>
> As for the evolution, the usb midi out and the regular midi out
seem
> to work just fine. However, the keyboard "sucks" (IMO, to borrow
> your phrase). It has the feel of a cheap toy electronic keyboard.
> (You know--the ones with the speakers built in.) I tried all of the
> keyboard velocity scalings, and have not found one that works for
me
> with heavy springs of the unit. (The knobs are nice, though; but
the
> button/display seems quirky.)
>
> If you like the feel of the evolution and the midi out-->usb works
> for you, you should still be able to used the SB midi in (as long
as
> the card doesn't have any conflicts).
>
> (I hope no one takes my purchase of the evolution as an
endorsement.
> It seemed like a decent price to test it out. It may still work for
> taking around to schools, doing arts-in-education stuff, and for
> note entry/composing. As of now, I don't see using it for serious
> performance. Well, maybe for turning on beats, arpegiators, etc.)
>
> --Steve
>
> BTW, you can use e-loader's midi monitor to test both the usb and
> midi outs of the evolution.
>
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "eriksatie01" <waveplayer@t...> wrote:
> >
> > ok guys, NOW I have a "real" midi interface. It is my old
creative
> > Live! gold, it has two real midi port and a digital in/out. I
> haven't
> > bought anything because I'm planning to buy a new firewire
> interface
> > with audio and midi all in one.
> > I tried it with e-loader and it works properly.
> >
> > I also tried to upload the un-famous banks from Rob Papen and all
> > went perfectly! at first strike! how many time spent on that, and
> the
> > solution was simple...
> >
> > So I've learnt three important thing:
> > 1. the midi out of my evolution keybord sucks
> > 2. never send sysex with a sucking midi out
> > 3. never send sysex before doing a back-up
> >
> > Now I've solved the problem the upload those rob papen banks, but
> as
> > you know I have a new one: my sequences are corrupted and my xl-7
> > doesn't work properly. So I will back up everything and then
reset
> > the machine. How can I reset it? I haven't found this anywhere in
> the
> > manual.
> >
> > thx
> >
> >
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@y...>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > If you think your global options are set to strange values,
> reset
> > them
> > > by simply restoring the factory multisetup (#63). Remember
that
> if
> > you
> > > don't have sequence data on a track (i.e. a note or controller
or
> > > something) it won't save the preset for that channel. That's
by
> > design
> > > (though a choice I regret considering how many people it's
> > confused).
> > >
> > > -Aaron
> > >
> > > PS. compacting memory will never fix anything. It's only to
> > defragment
> > > memory before going out live so that compaction doesn't run
> > > automatically while you're in the middle of your set. If it
> says it
> > > doesn't need it, it really doesn't.
> > >
> > > --- gonzinigonz <gonzini@f...> wrote:
> > >
> > > > ooops yes your right Chris, bit less hectic than starting
> again..
> > > >
> > > > >Sure I have to buy a midi interface to back up things!
> > > > cool, you wont regret it
> > > >
> > > > >since now I haven't do back up, and I will never try again
to
> > send
> > > > >sysex without doing back up before!
> > > > always..
> > > >
> > > > >now the question is: do you think that a reset would give me
> > back my
> > > > >xl-7 as before, or memory has became phisically corrupted?
> > > > Well you will lose your sound banks as i dont think theres a
> > level of
> > > > reset that will leave them intact.
> > > > The other level of reset will leave the user pattern data
> > untouched,
> > > > but if this is were the problem is then you wont have much
> choice.
> > > > As long as the unit dosent have other hardware problems a
reset
> > > > should get things back to a clean slate.
> > > > You will have to reload sound bank data though.. think the
> > presets
> > > > get copied over to the user banks when you reset.
> > > > Also if you do the whole memory reset the pattern data will
> have
> > to
> > > > be loaded back as well. Seeing that your having problems with
> > this..
> > > > Id get a midi interface before doing anything and atempt to
> back
> > up
> > > > whats there. If the problem reappears after a successful
> reload
> > then
> > > > theres yopur problem. you might be able to track it down to 1
> > rogue
> > > > patten or sound patch (more likely to be a pattern in that
> case..)
> > > > Ive come accross this of problem before with other gear
> (akai..)
> > > > Hopefully its a problem like Chris has mentioned
> > > > be carefull eh
> > > > Gonz
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <cdh79@g...> wrote:
> > > > > check if you have disabled the midi-channel..
> > > > >
> > > > > the patter loads up with a program change command, so if
you
> > have
> > > > midi
> > > > > disabled for this track (i.e. when using an external synth
> in
> > > > another
> > > > > song and not changing it back) it might happen that the
> right
> > > > pattern is
> > > > > not loaded..
> > > > >
> > > > > try enabling all midi channels, then press the stop button
3
> > times
> > > > to
> > > > > reset the pattern (or simply change the pattern and go back
> to
> > it
> > > > again)
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: xl7@yahoogroups.com [mailto:xl7@yahoogroups.com] On
> > Behalf Of
> > > > > eriksatie01
> > > > > Sent: Samstag, 1. Oktober 2005 22:02
> > > > > To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Subject: [xl7] Re: (not installed) ???? please help!!!!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Sure I have to buy a midi interface to back up things!
> > > > > since now I haven't do back up, and I will never try again
> to
> > send
> > > > > sysex without doing back up before!
> > > > > now the question is: do you think that a reset would give
me
> > back
> > > > my
> > > > > xl-7 as before, or memory has became phisically corrupted?
> > > > >
> > > > > thx
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "gonzinigonz" <gonzini@f...>
> wrote:
> > > > > > Its possible that the internal memory has been corupted
> > whilst
> > > > trying
> > > > > > to send sysex to it, seeing that you've had so hassle
> trying
> > to
> > > > get
> > > > > > it to work. (command station timming out and stuff)
> > > > > > Have you backed up your patterns via E-Loader?
> > > > > > As you dont seem to have a midi in on your PC i guess you
> > havant
> > > > been
> > > > > > able to back up your sound banks?
> > > > > > It would of been good if you could of done this before
> things
> > > > went
> > > > > > bad, as now it looks like you might have to reset the
> machine.
> > > > > > I think thats what you might have to do if its playing
> around
> > > > with
> > > > > > you.
> > > > > > Also you need to get a proper midi interface for your PC
> as
> > you
> > > > have
> > > > > > to back up data. Its a computer and not the most reliable
> one
> > at
> > > > > > that..
> > > > > > Maybe someone else here has a better idea?
> > > > > > Gonz
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "eriksatie01"
<waveplayer@t...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > alredy tried...
> > > > > > > it tells me that there's no need to do it and it
doesn't
> do
> > > > > > nothing...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > please doctor, tell me... is it serious?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > holy shit. whats whole defragmenting thing the
command
> > > > station
> > > > > > can do?
> > > > > > > > maybe that will help. maybe you should wait for a
> better
> > > > opinion.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "eriksatie01"
> > <waveplayer@t...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > what's happening here?
> > > > > > > > > today I turned on my xl-7 and many of may patterns
> was
> > > > > > corrupted. may
> > > > > > > > > traks are not correctly assigned to its preset.
> Insted
> > of
> > > > the
> > > > > > name af
> > > > > > > > > the right preset,a message says (not installed).
> > > > > > > > > Moreover, if I re-assign the right preset to the
> track,
> > and
> > > >
> > > > > > then save
> > > > > > > > > it again, this assignement go lost when I recall
the
> > > > pattern!!
> > > > > > > > > I've tried to save the preset to another location,
> to
> > save
> > > > the
> > > > > > patter
> > > > > > > > > to another location, to move the track to another
> track
> > > > number
> > > > > > without
> > > > > > > > > success.
> > > > > > > > > plese help me, I fear that all those tries with
> sysex
> > > > uploading
> > > > > > has
> > > > > > > > > caused some damage to my machine and to my work!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > davide
> > >
> > >
> > >
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