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COMMENTS ON MP-7 FROM AN OLD DOG - for Emu's people

COMMENTS ON MP-7 FROM AN OLD DOG - for Emu's people

2002-02-03 by argomax2002

Hi. 
I'm a dealer in Italy, and I specialize in music electronics for 
remix and dance productions. I am the premier dealer for this 
kind of gear in my country. 
I've been in this business for a long time and I've owned, used 
and sold ALL products ever produced  in the last 15 years that 
had keys, knobs or a PLAY button on them. 
Since I also indulge myself in having a small and effective studio 
setup, I grabbed an MP7 for my own use.
It's an enjoyable machine and I like to play with it. I won't use it 
professionally yet until I really get it to do what I like. 

However, after a few days of exploring, I will tell you the following 
comments, but don't take them too bad:

* The interface layout is not bad but not excellent either. Too 
much space is given to functions that could be within menus, 
and too little to those that should be upfront, like sequencer edit 
functions, extended transport buttons, and so. 

*Where's my UNDO button? The COMPARE button, which is 
there instead, is only one-tenth as useful as the UNDO button. If 
there is an Undo function anywhere, I couldn't find it. Not even in 
the index.

*The sequencer is steady but barely there in terms of features. 
For example, I can't copy just some bars that I recorded well over 
some other bard I recorded badly within the same track: I have to 
copy the whole track somewhere else or nothing. 
Yamaha keyboard workstations from 10 years ago had a better 
sequencer on board. And you should be able to sequence a 
song WITHOUT just chaining patterns.

* The soundset is quite uneven in terms of dynamics, overall 
levels and sound quality. Enough said. And the reverbs fizzle. 
UUGGGHHH!!! THAT'S CHEAP!!!

*To say that the effect bussing section is confusing is putting it 
mildly. Also, the effects could include a few more variety, what do 
you think?

*The hip-hop soundset is good only in the Bass and Drums/Perc 
categories. Everything else is useless in my opinion.

*A TWO-LINE DISPLAY? IN 2002? IN THIS PRICE RANGE?

*The E-Loader won't load a damn thing from a Mac using USB. I 
don't even want to make any effort to find out why, nor I want to 
switch platform. It should work immediately. Period.

* The synth programming functions are certainly very deep, 
powerful and extensive. 
But guys, I don't feel like scrolling with a dial and tapping 
endlessly with a cursor switch anymore, sorry. I'm 36 y.o., and I 
want better for my money.

*The pads are very well built and respond well. You obviously 
have used a lot of the ideas from the Ensoniq ASR-X series, 
from the sequencing structure to the pads themselves. But I'd 
have gone further. I'd have implemented sampling as well 
(Yamaha RS-7000 beat Emu to that) and a fixed Ram storage 
like that featured on Roland SP-808, which, you'll agree, is THE 
BEST and MOST PRACTICAL type of memory storage ever 
developed in music application, period.

Thanks for your time and I hope I didn't offend anyone.

Max Ventura,
Italy.

RE: [xl7] COMMENTS ON MP-7 FROM AN OLD DOG - for Emu's people

2002-02-03 by Panzare

Being an old dog myself, I have to agree with you on a number of things
you've pointed
out. Though there are some really nice features the MP-7 does have and the
rhythm
patterns and sounds are very cool, especially with the addition of the
Techno Synth
ROM card. So, here's a question for you, since you've pointed out some
drawbacks
of the MP-7, how would you compare Korg's Karma to the MP-7...overall.

Not that I'm going to trade in my MP-7...not at all, I really like it, but I
may replace
my fading M! with a Karma.

Thanks,

jp
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  -----Original Message-----
  From: argomax2002 [mailto:argomax@...]
  Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 2:07 PM
  To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [xl7] COMMENTS ON MP-7 FROM AN OLD DOG - for Emu's people


  Hi.
  I'm a dealer in Italy, and I specialize in music electronics for
  remix and dance productions. I am the premier dealer for this
  kind of gear in my country.
  I've been in this business for a long time and I've owned, used
  and sold ALL products ever produced  in the last 15 years that
  had keys, knobs or a PLAY button on them.
  Since I also indulge myself in having a small and effective studio
  setup, I grabbed an MP7 for my own use.
  It's an enjoyable machine and I like to play with it. I won't use it
  professionally yet until I really get it to do what I like.

  However, after a few days of exploring, I will tell you the following
  comments, but don't take them too bad:

  * The interface layout is not bad but not excellent either. Too
  much space is given to functions that could be within menus,
  and too little to those that should be upfront, like sequencer edit
  functions, extended transport buttons, and so.

  *Where's my UNDO button? The COMPARE button, which is
  there instead, is only one-tenth as useful as the UNDO button. If
  there is an Undo function anywhere, I couldn't find it. Not even in
  the index.

  *The sequencer is steady but barely there in terms of features.
  For example, I can't copy just some bars that I recorded well over
  some other bard I recorded badly within the same track: I have to
  copy the whole track somewhere else or nothing.
  Yamaha keyboard workstations from 10 years ago had a better
  sequencer on board. And you should be able to sequence a
  song WITHOUT just chaining patterns.

  * The soundset is quite uneven in terms of dynamics, overall
  levels and sound quality. Enough said. And the reverbs fizzle.
  UUGGGHHH!!! THAT'S CHEAP!!!

  *To say that the effect bussing section is confusing is putting it
  mildly. Also, the effects could include a few more variety, what do
  you think?

  *The hip-hop soundset is good only in the Bass and Drums/Perc
  categories. Everything else is useless in my opinion.

  *A TWO-LINE DISPLAY? IN 2002? IN THIS PRICE RANGE?

  *The E-Loader won't load a damn thing from a Mac using USB. I
  don't even want to make any effort to find out why, nor I want to
  switch platform. It should work immediately. Period.

  * The synth programming functions are certainly very deep,
  powerful and extensive.
  But guys, I don't feel like scrolling with a dial and tapping
  endlessly with a cursor switch anymore, sorry. I'm 36 y.o., and I
  want better for my money.

  *The pads are very well built and respond well. You obviously
  have used a lot of the ideas from the Ensoniq ASR-X series,
  from the sequencing structure to the pads themselves. But I'd
  have gone further. I'd have implemented sampling as well
  (Yamaha RS-7000 beat Emu to that) and a fixed Ram storage
  like that featured on Roland SP-808, which, you'll agree, is THE
  BEST and MOST PRACTICAL type of memory storage ever
  developed in music application, period.

  Thanks for your time and I hope I didn't offend anyone.

  Max Ventura,
  Italy.












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Re: COMMENTS ON MP-7 FROM AN OLD DOG - for Emu's people

2002-02-03 by argomax2002

PANZARE:
The Karma has a lousy, no-action-whatsoever keyboard, by 
comparison the keys of the M1 are like a Steinway. Take that into 
account.
The sequencer is powerful, and the Karma engine is even more 
so, but the whole concept in my opinion is a trifle overblown, 
meaning that, after all, is just an arpeggiator. 
The machine could have more realtime controls, but the sounds 
are good, as always with Korg.
I hate the Korg OS's, and with the Karma at least you don't have 
that unnerving touchscreen which is slower in responding than a 
broken ansering machine.
Roland has the best OS's. Yamaha has the most complex 
though being quickly responsive.
The best keyboard workstation ever done, in my opinion, was 
Yamaha SY-85 from 1993. Anybody who has it will tell you there 
is nothing it doesn't do, sequencer- or synth-wise. It even loads 
samples. And realtime controls for filters and mixer settings. 
Unsurpassed.

I like my MP7, and I've already called my rep to order the 
Protozoa, the Sounds of the ZR and the Beat Garden Roms.
However, I really can't wait for somebody to explain me how to 
download this damn OS from my I-Book because I can't figure it 
out.
Cheers.
Max

RE: [xl7] Re: COMMENTS ON MP-7 FROM AN OLD DOG - for Emu's people

2002-02-04 by Panzare

Max,

Thankyou very much for the comparisons, I may just keep my M1 afterall.
Besides, I've
got a Boss BR-8 for recording, so I'm not so limited by the MP-7's
sequencer. I also
have an Alesis QS7.1, which isn't a bad keyboard either, for the price.
As far as the OS for the MP-7, well, I agree, getting the E-Loader to work
can be
a bit of a pain, especially with an I-Book. I know the USB won't be usable
until
the next OS upgrade is released sometime in the next month or so, but it
doesn't do you any good unless you can upload it via MIDI first. Not sure if
you've checked out the FAQ file on the MP-7 users group site, but it does
have some very useful info.

Thanks again,

jp
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  -----Original Message-----
  From: argomax2002 [mailto:argomax@...]
  Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 5:45 PM
  To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [xl7] Re: COMMENTS ON MP-7 FROM AN OLD DOG - for Emu's people


  PANZARE:
  The Karma has a lousy, no-action-whatsoever keyboard, by
  comparison the keys of the M1 are like a Steinway. Take that into
  account.
  The sequencer is powerful, and the Karma engine is even more
  so, but the whole concept in my opinion is a trifle overblown,
  meaning that, after all, is just an arpeggiator.
  The machine could have more realtime controls, but the sounds
  are good, as always with Korg.
  I hate the Korg OS's, and with the Karma at least you don't have
  that unnerving touchscreen which is slower in responding than a
  broken ansering machine.
  Roland has the best OS's. Yamaha has the most complex
  though being quickly responsive.
  The best keyboard workstation ever done, in my opinion, was
  Yamaha SY-85 from 1993. Anybody who has it will tell you there
  is nothing it doesn't do, sequencer- or synth-wise. It even loads
  samples. And realtime controls for filters and mixer settings.
  Unsurpassed.

  I like my MP7, and I've already called my rep to order the
  Protozoa, the Sounds of the ZR and the Beat Garden Roms.
  However, I really can't wait for somebody to explain me how to
  download this damn OS from my I-Book because I can't figure it
  out.
  Cheers.
  Max


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