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patch editior/midi question

2005-02-13 by jk

two questions

1. is there a patch editor for the commandstations

2. how to i embed sysex data in my track, i have a mk-6 and when i 
send the data it says sent, but if i change the preset on the mk-6 
then play back the px-7 which is "suppose" to have the sysex, it 
won't change the preset, is it possible to store the patch locations 
of my mk-6 in the pattern on my px-7 or do i have to save a 
multisetup on the mk-6 each time i use sounds from it in my tracks


this is one thing i couln't figure out, i've had my mk-6 for over 
two years and i used it with a kawai q-80, but i could never figure 
this out, so i jus saved a multi for each song i did,and recalled it 
for the proper sequence

help?

Re: patch editior/midi question

2005-02-14 by steve_the_composer

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "jk" <saintjoe@s...> wrote:
> 
> two questions
> 
> 1. is there a patch editor for the commandstations

I had the pleasure of betatesting a low-cost editor/path librarian 
designed for  the p2k line (12-controller and 16 controller formats) 
for Windows.  If you have a PC and want to test-drive out a demo 
version to see how it works, check out 
http://members.aol.com/caldor2004/patchpro/ . The demo will not save 
banks of presets, but you will get a feel for the software.

There are other editors which some users have discussed here as well.

> 2. how to i embed sysex data in my track, i have a mk-6 and when i 
> send the data it says sent, but if i change the preset on the mk-6 
> then play back the px-7 which is "suppose" to have the sysex, it 
> won't change the preset, is it possible to store the patch
> locations of my mk-6 in the pattern on my px-7 or do i have to
> save a multisetup on the mk-6 each time i use sounds from it in my
> tracks

(1) It sounds like you want to store a prgram change [preset change] 
command, not embedded sysex data.
(2) The command stations/P2500 do not have a sysex data editor, so 
you cannot edit sysex data in your tracks.
(3) They do have an event editor which you can use to insert or edit 
program schanges [preset changes]. Here's how:

-->Press Edit Pattern.
-->Scroll to the EVENT <-> menu.
-->Press Enter.
-->Select the track where you want to insert the program change 
command.
-->Press Repeat to insert an event.
-->Rotate the type of event until you see prog:0
[You can also change the time and the channel.]
Bank switching works as follows:
msb [m;] selects your ROM [User = 0]
lsb [l:] selects the bank

EXAMPLE:
--------------------------
T02 EVENT <-> 003.01.000
C07 prog:85 m:66 l:1
--------------------------

At measure 3, beat 1, tick 0 on track 2 there is a program change 
command to change the preset on midi channel 7 to 085^1 of the 
Advanced Orchestra ROM (m:66).

Foot notes:
(1) You can recall multis using this command.  Simply use m:80. Be 
sure to save your current setup first, otherwise it will be 
overwritten.
(2) To send program changes to external gear, CHANNEL ASSIGN must be 
set to >ext<. If you select >both<, the program change will not go 
out to your external gear. 

Hope this helps.

--Steve
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> this is one thing i couln't figure out, i've had my mk-6 for over 
> two years and i used it with a kawai q-80, but i could never
> figure this out, so i jus saved a multi for each song i did,and
> recalled it for the proper sequence
> 
> help?

Re: [xl7] Re: patch editior/midi question

2005-02-14 by Joseph Swopes

thanks, i had actually stumbled upon this, but one thing i can't figure out
how do you calculate the rom numbe, like, you said 66 for advanced orchestra, how do i calculate that
 
i'm jus trying to get my head around this, thanks



--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "jk" <saintjoe@s...> wrote:
> 
> two questions
> 
> 1. is there a patch editor for the commandstations

I had the pleasure of betatesting a low-cost editor/path librarian 
designed for  the p2k line (12-controller and 16 controller formats) 
for Windows.  If you have a PC and want to test-drive out a demo 
version to see how it works, check out 
http://members.aol.com/caldor2004/patchpro/ . The demo will not save 
banks of presets, but you will get a feel for the software.

There are other editors which some users have discussed here as well.

> 2. how to i embed sysex data in my track, i have a mk-6 and when i 
> send the data it says sent, but if i change the preset on the mk-6 
> then play back the px-7 which is "suppose" to have the sysex, it 
> won't change the preset, is it possible to store the patch
> locations of my mk-6 in the pattern on my px-7 or do i have to
> save a multisetup on the mk-6 each time i use sounds from it in my
> tracks

(1) It sounds like you want to store a prgram change [preset change] 
command, not embedded sysex data.
(2) The command stations/P2500 do not have a sysex data editor, so 
you cannot edit sysex data in your tracks.
(3) They do have an event editor which you can use to insert or edit 
program schanges [preset changes]. Here's how:

-->Press Edit Pattern.
-->Scroll to the EVENT <-> menu.
-->Press Enter.
-->Select the track where you want to insert the program change 
command.
-->Press Repeat to insert an event.
-->Rotate the type of event until you see prog:0
[You can also change the time and the channel.]
Bank switching works as follows:
msb [m;] selects your ROM [User = 0]
lsb [l:] selects the bank

EXAMPLE:
--------------------------
T02 EVENT <-> 003.01.000
C07 prog:85 m:66 l:1
--------------------------

At measure 3, beat 1, tick 0 on track 2 there is a program change 
command to change the preset on midi channel 7 to 085^1 of the 
Advanced Orchestra ROM (m:66).

Foot notes:
(1) You can recall multis using this command.  Simply use m:80. Be 
sure to save your current setup first, otherwise it will be 
overwritten.
(2) To send program changes to external gear, CHANNEL ASSIGN must be 
set to >ext<. If you select >both<, the program change will not go 
out to your external gear. 

Hope this helps.

--Steve


> this is one thing i couln't figure out, i've had my mk-6 for over 
> two years and i used it with a kawai q-80, but i could never
> figure this out, so i jus saved a multi for each song i did,and
> recalled it for the proper sequence
> 
> help?




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Re: patch editior/midi question

2005-02-14 by steve_the_composer

Press audition to find the ROM number. (There are lists of ROM ids, 
but you really only need the ones installed in your e-mu.)

--Steve

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Swopes <saintjoe@s...> wrote:
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> thanks, i had actually stumbled upon this, but one thing i can't
> figure out how do you calculate the rom numbe, like, you said 66
> for advanced orchestra, how do i calculate that
>  
> i'm jus trying to get my head around this, thanks
>

Re: [xl7] Re: patch editior/midi question

2005-02-14 by Joseph Swopes

thanks man!!
by the way, where is that list of id's

steve_the_composer <smw-mail@...> wrote:

Press audition to find the ROM number. (There are lists of ROM ids, 
but you really only need the ones installed in your e-mu.)

--Steve

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Swopes <saintjoe@s...> wrote:
> thanks, i had actually stumbled upon this, but one thing i can't
> figure out how do you calculate the rom numbe, like, you said 66
> for advanced orchestra, how do i calculate that
>  
> i'm jus trying to get my head around this, thanks
> 





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