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[xl7] Re: XL7 Sequencer issues

[xl7] Re: XL7 Sequencer issues

2002-02-01 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com

Being able to manually control which part of the pattern is being edited 
in grid mode would go a long way toward eliminating that "almost," of 
course.

>>>Yeah, the more I play with my XL-7, the more I wish this was 
implemented the way you suggest.  Having to stop a pattern to go back and 
fix a drum hit can be tedious.  Hopefully in February...<<<

True, and that's a good thing, but there's also no way to do one-button 
pattern switching a la Roland's Pattern Call (or drop MIDI phrases in at 
will a la Roland's RPS). Right now you're limited to dialing, which is 
less than ideal live.

>>>When I play out live, I copy all of the patterns I'm going to play into 
a seperate User Bank, that way you only have to scroll a single increment 
to get the next pattern.  Even if you don't lay out your sets in a linear 
fashion this way, it still helps to avoid having to scrol through numerous 
banks. <<<

As well as this. As frustrating as it may be to hear something you worked 
hard on criticized, it's reassuring to know that the criticism is being 
listened to.

>>>We've all said it before, but the EMu tech support this list has seen 
is just phenominal.  I'm sure it's not easy for those guys to hear us 
bitch about their hardwork all the time (certainly nowhere near as easy as 
it is for us to complain!), but I think it's a good thing for everyone 
involved.  Let's face the brutal truth, no sequencer (any gear really) is 
going to have every feature that every user wants.  Largely it comes down 
to what can be implemented easily, and will satisfy the most people out 
there using the gear.  I think Emu has done a tremendous job on that front 
so far, and we all know there's more to come.  I wish more people 
expressed patience with Emu, instead of venting angrily.  We're lucky to 
have such support, let's not drive them away :) <<<

rEalm

Re: XL7 Sequencer issues

2002-02-02 by heinrich22001

My 2 cents:
I paid the full price and hard earned money for my emu gear. The Emu 
marketing department offers its potential customers at least a 
functioning unit with certain features. Minor glitches should be 
tolerated as long as they are going to be straightened out in  
reasonable time. This box is on the market since 7 months for all I 
know. The OS has been in a beta version state when it came out. The 
very welcome support is partly adressing user problems and partly 
stuff which wouldn´t be necessary to do if it had undergone a proper 
bug report. Every box has its problems. More or less. And I had gear 
(korg and roland) that had much less. Until now I kept the mp-7 
because I like the general concept and the sounds. I dont like the 
partly complicated workflow and the OS quality. If you think I am 
bitching to much, you may do so. If the reported bugs/strange 
settings are not fixed I will sell the mp-7. If they are this will be 
a extremely powerful box for people who are willing to learn it.

Heinrich 



--- In xl7@y..., erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> Being able to manually control which part of the pattern is being 
edited 
> in grid mode would go a long way toward eliminating that "almost," 
of 
> course.
> 
> >>>Yeah, the more I play with my XL-7, the more I wish this was 
> implemented the way you suggest.  Having to stop a pattern to go 
back and 
> fix a drum hit can be tedious.  Hopefully in February...<<<
> 
> True, and that's a good thing, but there's also no way to do one-
button 
> pattern switching a la Roland's Pattern Call (or drop MIDI phrases 
in at 
> will a la Roland's RPS). Right now you're limited to dialing, which 
is 
> less than ideal live.
> 
> >>>When I play out live, I copy all of the patterns I'm going to 
play into 
> a seperate User Bank, that way you only have to scroll a single 
increment 
> to get the next pattern.  Even if you don't lay out your sets in a 
linear 
> fashion this way, it still helps to avoid having to scrol through 
numerous 
> banks. <<<
> 
> As well as this. As frustrating as it may be to hear something you 
worked 
> hard on criticized, it's reassuring to know that the criticism is 
being 
> listened to.
> 
> >>>We've all said it before, but the EMu tech support this list has 
seen 
> is just phenominal.  I'm sure it's not easy for those guys to hear 
us 
> bitch about their hardwork all the time (certainly nowhere near as 
easy as 
> it is for us to complain!), but I think it's a good thing for 
everyone 
> involved.  Let's face the brutal truth, no sequencer (any gear 
really) is 
> going to have every feature that every user wants.  Largely it 
comes down 
> to what can be implemented easily, and will satisfy the most people 
out 
> there using the gear.  I think Emu has done a tremendous job on 
that front 
> so far, and we all know there's more to come.  I wish more people 
> expressed patience with Emu, instead of venting angrily.  We're 
lucky to 
> have such support, let's not drive them away :) <<<
> 
> rEalm

Re: XL7 Sequencer issues

2002-02-03 by robotchas

--- In xl7@y..., erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> When I play out live, I copy all of the patterns I'm going to play into
> a seperate User Bank, that way you only have to scroll a single increment
> to get the next pattern.  Even if you don't lay out your sets in a linear
> fashion this way, it still helps to avoid having to scrol through numerous
> banks. 

That's the most sensible way to do it, but you've used a 505 so I'm sure you know it's no substitute for one-button-press pattern call (as found on the MC-505, the Electribes, and the RM1x), especially if you want to change up your arrangement or experiment with structure. Dialing patterns live is like editing on an LCD, pattern call is like turning a filter cutoff knob.

If there's some way to select the next pattern via program change or even short sysex messages then I'm willing to do this remotely, but whether or not I shell out for an XL is entirely dependent on whether or not this feature is added.