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i was perusing my OS2.0 manual addendum when i came upon this line

beacuse flash RAM has a finite number of write operations before it 
goes bad

which made me worry?  
so this means eventually its gonna crap out on me?

is the flash RAM replaceable when the time comes?

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "infradead" <infradead@y...> wrote:
> i was perusing my OS2.0 manual addendum when i came upon this line
> 
> beacuse flash RAM has a finite number of write operations before it 
> goes bad
> 
> which made me worry?  
> so this means eventually its gonna crap out on me?
> 
> is the flash RAM replaceable when the time comes?

Wouldnt worry about it, well over 100,000 write cycles i would 
imagine.
Sure the ram could be changed if it came to it anyway.
Gonz

> Wouldnt worry about it, well over 100,000 write cycles i would 
> imagine.
> Sure the ram could be changed if it came to it anyway.
> Gonz

stupid question time

what's a write cycle?  is that everytime the flash compacts or 
everytime you save..

thanks

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "infradead" <infradead@y...> wrote:
> 
> > Wouldnt worry about it, well over 100,000 write cycles i would 
> > imagine.
> > Sure the ram could be changed if it came to it anyway.
> > Gonz
> 
> stupid question time
> 
> what's a write cycle?  is that everytime the flash compacts or 
> everytime you save..
> 
> thanks

Sorry, yes in other words every time you save or compact the user ram.
(compacting will use many write cycles, "not for everyday use" like 
it tells you..)
Flash rams life is measured in write cycles, ie how many times you 
should be able to change the data stored in it reliably.
G

> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "infradead" <infradead@y...> wrote:
> > what's a write cycle?  is that everytime the flash compacts or 
> > everytime you save..

--- gonzinigonz <gonzini@...> wrote:
> Sorry, yes in other words every time you save or compact the user
> ram. (compacting will use many write cycles, "not for everyday use"
like 
> it tells you..)

Regular writes don't really count because they're not erasing anything.
 Compaction will use two write cycles per flash block.  Essentially
nothing you'll have to worry about.  I posted a very long discussion
about this a long while back.  If the archives didn't suck so much, I'd
suggest searching for it, but it would take you forever to find.

-Aaron


		
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--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@y...> wrote:
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "infradead" <infradead@y...> wrote:
> > > what's a write cycle?  is that everytime the flash compacts or 
> > > everytime you save..
> 
> --- gonzinigonz <gonzini@f...> wrote:
> > Sorry, yes in other words every time you save or compact the user
> > ram. (compacting will use many write cycles, "not for everyday 
use"
> like 
> > it tells you..)
> 
> Regular writes don't really count because they're not erasing 
anything.
>  Compaction will use two write cycles per flash block.  Essentially
> nothing you'll have to worry about.  I posted a very long discussion
> about this a long while back.  If the archives didn't suck so much, 
I'd
> suggest searching for it, but it would take you forever to find.
> 
> -Aaron
> 
> 
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Cheers Aaron, i should of said 'erase' cycles to be correct :o)
G