Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

Can the flash ROM be used with any sampler? Why is it so expensive? 
Just curious.
Mark

Flash ROMs can only be burnt in E-MU Ultra samplers (strangely enough!) They
are expensive because they have to be able to be read as fast as normal
memory (60ns). Also they probably don't get mass produced and are made in
relatively small production runs - this will put the price up too.

Stu

|-----Original Message-----
|From: sparky2m4 [mailto:mcandrews@...]
|Sent: 16 June 2004 18:43
|To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
|Subject: [xl7] Flash ROM
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|Can the flash ROM be used with any sampler? Why is it so expensive?
|Just curious.
|Mark
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I want a flash rom, pretty badly.

Any deals out there yet?

-m@

Dear All,

We are Distributors of EMU  in India since 1997  and we have some  EMU 
Products which are lying with us untouched for the past 6-12months. 6 
months is for items of Samplers which stopped production and the RFX is 
a month old as we received it only now.

We will sell the following items given below at the same cost which we 
have bought from Emu ( shipping extra).

List of EMU items  to sell.  :

1) DWAM Options card with Dwam Chip -  QTY. 2 Each  
 For  all EMU  ULTRA SAMPLERS

2) RFX-32 PCI   card   - QY. 1 No.
for  all EMU ULTRA SAMPLERS.   (E5000,E6400,E4xt ,E-Platinum)

3)   LCD Display  -  QTY. 1 no.   
 for  EMU  ULTRAS ( E6400 , E4XT  ,E-Platinum  Samplers. )

4) SMPS     -  QTY.   2 Nos.
For  All  EMU     ULTRA SAMPLERS .

5)  64mb  RAM (SIMMS)   QTY. 5 Nos.
for EMU   ULTRA  SAMPLERS  (E5000,E6400,E4xt ,E-Platinum) 

6)  Pure Phatt  Sound ROMS  Qty. 2 nos.
for all Emu Sound Modules ( Proteus 2000,Custom Proteus,Virtuoso 
2000,P2500 ,XL7)

7) Vintage Key  Sound Roms    QTY.   1 No.
For EMU

8) Ensoinq ROM for Emu ( Qty 01).

9) Peter Siedlack ROM for Emu ( Qty 01)

If anyone is interested please let me know. ALL products are brandnew. 
Not at all used nor used in demos or anything.

Also if this is not the correct way to communicate to help us sell the 
products, guide where we should post this mail.

We also have some PARIS products namley 442 and ADAT card. Where do we 
give these details to sell.

Look forward to assistance in this regards,

for S.U.N. Media Ventures Pvt. Ltd,

Umesh


Stu wrote:

>Flash ROMs can only be burnt in E-MU Ultra samplers (strangely enough!) They
>are expensive because they have to be able to be read as fast as normal
>memory (60ns). Also they probably don't get mass produced and are made in
>relatively small production runs - this will put the price up too.
>
>Stu
>
>|-----Original Message-----
>|From: sparky2m4 [mailto:mcandrews@...]
>|Sent: 16 June 2004 18:43
>|To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
>|Subject: [xl7] Flash ROM
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>|Can the flash ROM be used with any sampler? Why is it so expensive?
>|Just curious.
>|Mark
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Dear Sir,

I would be interested in the Peter Siedlaczek ROM. How much does it
cost? Also, what is a DWAM?

Thank you,

Matt Picone
Ringoes NJ

Sorry.

Meant that to go to the seller privately.

-m@

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Picone [mailto:matman@...] 
> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 8:27 AM
> To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [xl7] Flash ROM
> 
> 
> Dear Sir,
> 
> I would be interested in the Peter Siedlaczek ROM. How much 
> does it cost? Also, what is a DWAM?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
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> Ringoes NJ
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Hi, im interested in creating a flash rom with my own drum samples on 
it.. Do we know what format the samples have to be organised in on 
the flash rom? I guess if you save them off on to the flash rom in an 
Ultra sampler it does it the correct way say for the XL-7 to read it.
As the flash roms seem so expensive i would be interested in 
populating my own simm with flash chips if this is easily possible.
Whats the story with the rom simms? are they standard connections as 
in the usual PC style 72pin simms? what organision of IC's have to be 
present on the board, ie how many flash ic's present.
My XL-7's in the post from the states at the moment so its not here 
yet, so i havant got any experiance with the unit at present.
Any info would be good
Regards
Gonz   




--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Stu" <routerman@z...> wrote:
> Flash ROMs can only be burnt in E-MU Ultra samplers (strangely 
enough!) They
> are expensive because they have to be able to be read as fast as 
normal
> memory (60ns). Also they probably don't get mass produced and are 
made in

> relatively small production runs - this will put the price up too.
> 
> Stu
> 
> |-----Original Message-----
> |From: sparky2m4 [mailto:mcandrews@f...]
> |Sent: 16 June 2004 18:43
> |To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> |Subject: [xl7] Flash ROM
> |
> |
> |Can the flash ROM be used with any sampler? Why is it so expensive?
> |Just curious.
> |Mark
> |
> |
> |
> |
> |
> |Yahoo! Groups Links
> |
> |
> |
> |

How much are the flash roms?  


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "gonzinigonz" <gonzini@f...> wrote:

> Hi, im interested in creating a flash rom with my own drum samples on 
> it.. Do we know what format the samples have to be organised in on 
> the flash rom? I guess if you save them off on to the flash rom in an 
> Ultra sampler it does it the correct way say for the XL-7 to read it.
> As the flash roms seem so expensive i would be interested in 
> populating my own simm with flash chips if this is easily possible.
> Whats the story with the rom simms? are they standard connections as 
> in the usual PC style 72pin simms? what organision of IC's have to be 
> present on the board, ie how many flash ic's present.
> My XL-7's in the post from the states at the moment so its not here 
> yet, so i havant got any experiance with the unit at present.
> Any info would be good
> Regards
> Gonz   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Stu" <routerman@z...> wrote:
> > Flash ROMs can only be burnt in E-MU Ultra samplers (strangely 
> enough!) They
> > are expensive because they have to be able to be read as fast as 
> normal
> > memory (60ns). Also they probably don't get mass produced and are 
> made in
> > relatively small production runs - this will put the price up too.
> > 
> > Stu
> > 
> > |-----Original Message-----
> > |From: sparky2m4 [mailto:mcandrews@f...]
> > |Sent: 16 June 2004 18:43
> > |To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> > |Subject: [xl7] Flash ROM
> > |
> > |
> > |Can the flash ROM be used with any sampler? Why is it so expensive?
> > |Just curious.
> > |Mark
> > |
> > |
> > |
> > |
> > |
> > |Yahoo! Groups Links
> > |
> > |
> > |
> > |

$319 from EMU @ present

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, jeffkissinger@y... wrote:
> How much are the flash roms?  
> 
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "gonzinigonz" <gonzini@f...> wrote:
> > Hi, im interested in creating a flash rom with my own drum 
samples on 
> > it.. Do we know what format the samples have to be organised in 
on 
> > the flash rom? I guess if you save them off on to the flash rom 
in an 
> > Ultra sampler it does it the correct way say for the XL-7 to read 
it.
> > As the flash roms seem so expensive i would be interested in 
> > populating my own simm with flash chips if this is easily 
possible.
> > Whats the story with the rom simms? are they standard connections 
as 
> > in the usual PC style 72pin simms? what organision of IC's have 
to be 
> > present on the board, ie how many flash ic's present.
> > My XL-7's in the post from the states at the moment so its not 
here 
> > yet, so i havant got any experiance with the unit at present.
> > Any info would be good
> > Regards
> > Gonz   
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Stu" <routerman@z...> wrote:
> > > Flash ROMs can only be burnt in E-MU Ultra samplers (strangely 
> > enough!) They
> > > are expensive because they have to be able to be read as fast 
as 
> > normal
> > > memory (60ns). Also they probably don't get mass produced and 
are 
> > made in
> > > relatively small production runs - this will put the price up 
too.
> > > 
> > > Stu
> > > 
> > > |-----Original Message-----
> > > |From: sparky2m4 [mailto:mcandrews@f...]
> > > |Sent: 16 June 2004 18:43
> > > |To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> > > |Subject: [xl7] Flash ROM
> > > |
> > > |
> > > |Can the flash ROM be used with any sampler? Why is it so 
expensive?

> > > |Just curious.
> > > |Mark
> > > |
> > > |
> > > |
> > > |
> > > |
> > > |Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > |
> > > |
> > > |
> > > |

Anyone know where I can get a Flash ROM for the PX-7?

-m@

E-MU?

-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Picone [mailto:matman@...]
Sent: 02 February 2005 20:06
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [xl7] Flash ROM



Anyone know where I can get a Flash ROM for the PX-7?

-m@




 
Yahoo! Groups Links

is emu the only place you can get one?


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Stu" <routerman@z...> wrote:

> E-MU?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Picone [mailto:matman@m...]
> Sent: 02 February 2005 20:06
> To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [xl7] Flash ROM
> 
> 
> 
> Anyone know where I can get a Flash ROM for the PX-7?
> 
> -m@
> 
> 
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> 
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> Yahoo! Groups Links

I 'll sell you the sounds of the ZR for cheep!-




-- malik <malik_martin@...> wrote:

> 
> is emu the only place you can get one?
> 
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Stu" <routerman@z...>
> wrote:
> > E-MU?
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Matt Picone [mailto:matman@m...]
> > Sent: 02 February 2005 20:06
> > To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [xl7] Flash ROM
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Anyone know where I can get a Flash ROM for the
> PX-7?
> > 
> > -m@
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
> 



		
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A friend told me that you can buy 72pin flash (is that the same as a 
emu rom?) varity for servers. if there access speed is up to it i 
dont know..
Gonz

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> wrote:

> 
> is emu the only place you can get one?
> 
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Stu" <routerman@z...> wrote:
> > E-MU?
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Matt Picone [mailto:matman@m...]
> > Sent: 02 February 2005 20:06
> > To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [xl7] Flash ROM
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Anyone know where I can get a Flash ROM for the PX-7?
> > 
> > -m@
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > Yahoo! Groups Links

There is no such thing as 72pin flash.  There is 72pin *memory* (which
you *can* use in the E-mu samplers) but that absolutely will not work
in the ROMplers.  E-mu direct or used.  That's the only way.

-Aaron

--- gonzinigonz <gonzini@...> wrote:
> A friend told me that you can buy 72pin flash (is that the same as a 
> emu rom?) varity for servers. if there access speed is up to it i 
> dont know..
> Gonz
> 
> > > Anyone know where I can get a Flash ROM for the PX-7?


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Arrr ok, I spoke to an electroncs engineer friend of mine some time 
back and he said you can get 72pin simm modules with flash chips.
If i recall correctly he had some there.
Ive been here before looking for a cheaper alternative.
I guess the only real way is to use the EMU modules as they were 
designed for this purpose, so it should be a lot less stress getting 
things happening
Just did a search on google..

Cisco Systems MEM2620-8U32FS Flash Memory
Memory Features   
Size          32 MB 

Flash Type    SIMM 72-pin 
General Product Info   
Manufacturer Part No. MEM2620-8U32FS 


Cheers
G


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@y...> wrote:
> There is no such thing as 72pin flash.  There is 72pin *memory* 
(which
> you *can* use in the E-mu samplers) but that absolutely will not 
work
> in the ROMplers.  E-mu direct or used.  That's the only way.
> 
> -Aaron
> 
> --- gonzinigonz <gonzini@f...> wrote:
> > A friend told me that you can buy 72pin flash (is that the same 
as a 

> > emu rom?) varity for servers. if there access speed is up to it i 
> > dont know..
> > Gonz
> > 
> > > > Anyone know where I can get a Flash ROM for the PX-7?
> 
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On 2/3/05 8:31 PM, "gonzinigonz" <gonzini@...> wrote:

> Arrr ok, I spoke to an electroncs engineer friend of mine some time back and
> he said you can get 72pin simm modules with flash chips. If i recall correctly
> he had some there. Ive been here before looking for a cheaper alternative. I
> guess the only real way is to use the EMU modules as they were designed for
> this purpose, so it should be a lot less stress getting things happening Just
> did a search on google..
> 
> Cisco Systems MEM2620-8U32FS Flash Memory
> Memory Features  
> Size          32 MB
> 
> Flash Type    SIMM 72-pin
> General Product Info
> Manufacturer Part No. MEM2620-8U32FS

These may work but you still need to burn them in an E4 Ultra class
sampler...

--
Mibrilane

Hmm.  I stand corrected.  Those are in fact flash SIMMs.  They even
seem to use the same Intel Strataflash parts.  I'm still pretty sure
they won't work though.  If you can get them for free, and don't mind
risking an E-mu Ultra sampler, have at it...  =)

--- gonzinigonz <gonzini@...> wrote:
> Arrr ok, I spoke to an electroncs engineer friend of mine some time 
> back and he said you can get 72pin simm modules with flash chips.
> If i recall correctly he had some there.
> Ive been here before looking for a cheaper alternative.
> I guess the only real way is to use the EMU modules as they were 
> designed for this purpose, so it should be a lot less stress getting 
> things happening
> Just did a search on google..
> 
> Cisco Systems MEM2620-8U32FS Flash Memory
> Memory Features   
> Size          32 MB 
> 
> Flash Type    SIMM 72-pin 
> General Product Info   
> Manufacturer Part No. MEM2620-8U32FS 


		
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Interesting that they do use the same parts.
Dont think id risk it just in case a major screw up dumps the o/s and 
the internal flash in the XL-7 get scambled.
These just happened to be the first ones i came across doing a quick 
search. 
I never seen a EMU flash simm so i cant really coment on its 
compatibility with the command stations.
Just that there are other varieties out there..
Anyway i dont have a EMU sampler to write to one anyway :O(
Theres a bussiness idea in there somewhere..
G 



--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@y...> wrote:
> Hmm.  I stand corrected.  Those are in fact flash SIMMs.  They even
> seem to use the same Intel Strataflash parts.  I'm still pretty sure
> they won't work though.  If you can get them for free, and don't 
mind
> risking an E-mu Ultra sampler, have at it...  =)
> 
> --- gonzinigonz <gonzini@f...> wrote:
> > Arrr ok, I spoke to an electroncs engineer friend of mine some 
time 
> > back and he said you can get 72pin simm modules with flash chips.
> > If i recall correctly he had some there.
> > Ive been here before looking for a cheaper alternative.
> > I guess the only real way is to use the EMU modules as they were 
> > designed for this purpose, so it should be a lot less stress 
getting 

> > things happening
> > Just did a search on google..
> > 
> > Cisco Systems MEM2620-8U32FS Flash Memory
> > Memory Features   
> > Size          32 MB 
> > 
> > Flash Type    SIMM 72-pin 
> > General Product Info   
> > Manufacturer Part No. MEM2620-8U32FS 
> 
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Do the Cisco flash SIMMs have the baby flash chip on them like the emu ones
do?

|-----Original Message-----
|From: gonzinigonz [mailto:gonzini@...]
|Sent: 05 February 2005 02:57
|To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
|Subject: [xl7] Re: Flash ROM
|
|
|
|
|Interesting that they do use the same parts.
|Dont think id risk it just in case a major screw up dumps the o/s and
|the internal flash in the XL-7 get scambled.
|These just happened to be the first ones i came across doing a quick
|search.
|I never seen a EMU flash simm so i cant really coment on its
|compatibility with the command stations.
|Just that there are other varieties out there..
|Anyway i dont have a EMU sampler to write to one anyway :O(
|Theres a bussiness idea in there somewhere..
|G
|
|
|
|--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@y...> wrote:
|> Hmm.  I stand corrected.  Those are in fact flash SIMMs.  They even
|> seem to use the same Intel Strataflash parts.  I'm still pretty sure
|> they won't work though.  If you can get them for free, and don't
|mind
|> risking an E-mu Ultra sampler, have at it...  =)
|>
|> --- gonzinigonz <gonzini@f...> wrote:
|> > Arrr ok, I spoke to an electroncs engineer friend of mine some
|time
|> > back and he said you can get 72pin simm modules with flash chips.
|> > If i recall correctly he had some there.
|> > Ive been here before looking for a cheaper alternative.
|> > I guess the only real way is to use the EMU modules as they were
|> > designed for this purpose, so it should be a lot less stress
|getting
|> > things happening
|> > Just did a search on google..
|> >
|> > Cisco Systems MEM2620-8U32FS Flash Memory
|> > Memory Features
|> > Size          32 MB
|> >
|> > Flash Type    SIMM 72-pin
|> > General Product Info
|> > Manufacturer Part No. MEM2620-8U32FS
|>
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Nope.  My statement that there's no 72 pin Flash SIMM was based on the
fact that there's no standard for that sort of thing.  Just like E-mu's
flash SIMM, 72 pin SIMMs are just a convinient form factor based on
availability of sockets and the like, and as such, are all custom
one-offs.  There's almost no likelyhood that they are interchangeable,
unless by some coincidence, the two designers came up with identical
circuitry without conferring with one another... =)

--- Stu <routerman@...> wrote:
> Do the Cisco flash SIMMs have the baby flash chip on them
> like the emu ones do?


		
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but maybe another company supplied the roms? the same way that
littlelite supplied their bnc lamps?

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@y...> wrote:

> Nope.  My statement that there's no 72 pin Flash SIMM was based on the
> fact that there's no standard for that sort of thing.  Just like E-mu's
> flash SIMM, 72 pin SIMMs are just a convinient form factor based on
> availability of sockets and the like, and as such, are all custom
> one-offs.  There's almost no likelyhood that they are interchangeable,
> unless by some coincidence, the two designers came up with identical
> circuitry without conferring with one another... =)
> 
> --- Stu <routerman@z...> wrote:
> > Do the Cisco flash SIMMs have the baby flash chip on them
> > like the emu ones do?
> 
> 
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emu still sells em 
32mb $319
16mb $119

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> wrote:
> 
> but maybe another company supplied the roms? the same way that
> littlelite supplied their bnc lamps?
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@y...> wrote:
> > Nope.  My statement that there's no 72 pin Flash SIMM was based on the
> > fact that there's no standard for that sort of thing.  Just like
E-mu's

> > flash SIMM, 72 pin SIMMs are just a convinient form factor based on
> > availability of sockets and the like, and as such, are all custom
> > one-offs.  There's almost no likelyhood that they are interchangeable,
> > unless by some coincidence, the two designers came up with identical
> > circuitry without conferring with one another... =)
> > 
> > --- Stu <routerman@z...> wrote:
> > > Do the Cisco flash SIMMs have the baby flash chip on them
> > > like the emu ones do?
> > 
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Where?....How??  Do you have a contact #?
They're not on their web store anymore, and the 
person I spoke to on the phone didn't know what I 
was talking about

>emu still sells em
>32mb $319
>16mb $119
>
>--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> wrote:
>>
>>  but maybe another company supplied the roms? the same way that
>>  littlelite supplied their bnc lamps?
>>
>>  --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@y...> wrote:
>>  > Nope.  My statement that there's no 72 pin Flash SIMM was based on the
>>  > fact that there's no standard for that sort of thing.  Just like
>E-mu's
>>  > flash SIMM, 72 pin SIMMs are just a convinient form factor based on
>>  > availability of sockets and the like, and as such, are all custom
>>  > one-offs.  There's almost no likelyhood that they are interchangeable,
>>  > unless by some coincidence, the two designers came up with identical
>>  > circuitry without conferring with one another... =)
>>  >
>>  > --- Stu <routerman@z...> wrote:
>>  > > Do the Cisco flash SIMMs have the baby flash chip on them
>>  > > like the emu ones do?
>>  >
>>  >
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i myself am not a seller but i called emu this morning and thats what
they told me. but you know theyre only people some know but those who
dont prolly wont admit it. but then again mybe the person i spoke to
was wrong. i was kinda suprised to hear that they were still selloing
them i was really gonna ask if they had theirs made by another company
that still manufactures them. but when she told me emu's prices it
just cut the convo short.

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Rich Williams <punkjazz@s...> wrote:
> Where?....How??  Do you have a contact #?
> They're not on their web store anymore, and the 
> person I spoke to on the phone didn't know what I 
> was talking about
> 
> 
> >emu still sells em
> >32mb $319
> >16mb $119
> >
> >--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> wrote:
> >>
> >>  but maybe another company supplied the roms? the same way that
> >>  littlelite supplied their bnc lamps?
> >>
> >>  --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@y...> wrote:
> >>  > Nope.  My statement that there's no 72 pin Flash SIMM was
based on the
> >>  > fact that there's no standard for that sort of thing.  Just like
> >E-mu's
> >>  > flash SIMM, 72 pin SIMMs are just a convinient form factor
based on
> >>  > availability of sockets and the like, and as such, are all custom
> >>  > one-offs.  There's almost no likelyhood that they are
interchangeable,
> >>  > unless by some coincidence, the two designers came up with
identical

> >>  > circuitry without conferring with one another... =)
> >>  >
> >>  > --- Stu <routerman@z...> wrote:
> >>  > > Do the Cisco flash SIMMs have the baby flash chip on them
> >>  > > like the emu ones do?
> >>  >
> >>  >
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I cannot believe that e-mu has manufactered a uniqe memory chip for
their samplers/romplers. It must be an OEM product. Does anyone know
a memory-chip gury who can confirm this once and for all.
Regards,
Bertil
SWEDEN

Well, here's what I've discovered;

the OEM flash memory ROM for Cisco routers that has the same specs as
emu... costs almost exactly what emu is asking for their's. So I'm
inclined to believe that yes, there are OEM flash ROM's out there, but
those chips (flash chips in general) are pretty expensive. 



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Guys, they are NOT OEM.  They were designed by E-mu.  And no, while the
32MB flash for Cisco seems to use the same chips, it is most certainly
not the same part.  I can guarantee that the Cisco part doesn't have a
baby flash.  The E-mu flash has 32MB of sample flash and 2MB of preset
flash, only one of which can be read at a time (toggleable with some
data line).

As far as finding a memory chip guy to confirm this?  You already had
the last time I answered you...  =)

-Aaron

--- "cosine... zero" <cosinezero@...> wrote:

> Well, here's what I've discovered;
> 
> the OEM flash memory ROM for Cisco routers that has the same specs as
> emu... costs almost exactly what emu is asking for their's. So I'm
> inclined to believe that yes, there are OEM flash ROM's out there,
> but those chips (flash chips in general) are pretty expensive. 
> 
> cosinezero
> 
> 
> --- blagerq <BLQ@...> wrote:
> > 
> > I cannot believe that e-mu has manufactered a uniqe memory chip for
> > their samplers/romplers. It must be an OEM product. Does anyone
> know
> > a memory-chip gury who can confirm this once and for all.
> > Regards,
> > Bertil
> > SWEDEN


		
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Thanks Aaron, no need for any more research in that subject then. 
Does E-mu still have theese in stock in the US, someone mentioned 
that they do?
Bertil

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@y...> wrote:
> Guys, they are NOT OEM.  They were designed by E-mu.  And no, 
while the
> 32MB flash for Cisco seems to use the same chips, it is most 
certainly
> not the same part.  I can guarantee that the Cisco part doesn't 
have a
> baby flash.  The E-mu flash has 32MB of sample flash and 2MB of 
preset
> flash, only one of which can be read at a time (toggleable with 
some
> data line).
> 
> As far as finding a memory chip guy to confirm this?  You already 
had
> the last time I answered you...  =)
> 
> -Aaron
> 
> --- "cosine... zero" <cosinezero@y...> wrote:
> 
> > Well, here's what I've discovered;
> > 
> > the OEM flash memory ROM for Cisco routers that has the same 
specs as
> > emu... costs almost exactly what emu is asking for their's. So 
I'm
> > inclined to believe that yes, there are OEM flash ROM's out 
there,
> > but those chips (flash chips in general) are pretty expensive. 
> > 
> > cosinezero
> > 
> > 
> > --- blagerq <BLQ@H...> wrote:
> > > 
> > > I cannot believe that e-mu has manufactered a uniqe memory 
chip for

> > > their samplers/romplers. It must be an OEM product. Does anyone
> > know
> > > a memory-chip gury who can confirm this once and for all.
> > > Regards,
> > > Bertil
> > > SWEDEN
> 
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