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Seems like there is something big going on that is
taking up all their time. I clipped this from an email
that was forwarded to me. I responded with another
request for an XL-7 command station update. I think
I'll hang in there quietly for a while longer. Turby,
I share your frustration.  I'm told that all this
takes is a bunch of time to set up, once you
understand the midi spec and the editor format. But
it's beyond me at this point. I'm not a midi
programmer and that puts me at the developer's mercy
when it comes to an editor. i'll report back if I hear
any more.
Peace,
Mark

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Well I'm sorry but when you sell a product you also should supply 
support. This guy(s) at SoundQuest always has something else coming 
up. A new release, a next service pack, Music Messe etc.

I'm trying to get Novation KS series support since June 2003. Please 
take a look at there site... do you see any KS support yet?

Maik


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Mark <sparky2004music@y...> wrote:

> Seems like there is something big going on that is
> taking up all their time. I clipped this from an email
> that was forwarded to me. I responded with another
> request for an XL-7 command station update. I think
> I'll hang in there quietly for a while longer. Turby,
> I share your frustration.  I'm told that all this
> takes is a bunch of time to set up, once you
> understand the midi spec and the editor format. But
> it's beyond me at this point. I'm not a midi
> programmer and that puts me at the developer's mercy
> when it comes to an editor. i'll report back if I hear
> any more.
> Peace,
> Mark
> 
> __________________________________
> Do you Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time.
> http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html

Sent them a message three weeks ago... no answer.
Sent them a message yesterday... no answer yet.

More Midi Quest users over here? Please e-mail them for Command 
Station support.

Maik



--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Mike-E" <d_jumpmaster@y...> wrote:
> Well I'm sorry but when you sell a product you also should supply 
> support. This guy(s) at SoundQuest always has something else coming 
> up. A new release, a next service pack, Music Messe etc.
> 
> I'm trying to get Novation KS series support since June 2003. 
Please 

> take a look at there site... do you see any KS support yet?
> 
> Maik
> 
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Mark <sparky2004music@y...> wrote:
> > Seems like there is something big going on that is
> > taking up all their time. I clipped this from an email
> > that was forwarded to me. I responded with another
> > request for an XL-7 command station update. I think
> > I'll hang in there quietly for a while longer. Turby,
> > I share your frustration.  I'm told that all this
> > takes is a bunch of time to set up, once you
> > understand the midi spec and the editor format. But
> > it's beyond me at this point. I'm not a midi
> > programmer and that puts me at the developer's mercy
> > when it comes to an editor. i'll report back if I hear
> > any more.
> > Peace,
> > Mark
> > 
> > __________________________________
> > Do you Yahoo!?
> > Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time.
> > http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html

Finally I got a reply from SoundQuest on the support of the Command 
Station in there MidiQuest product.

And as I thought... promisses, promisses... and that's it.

- - - - reply from there sales department (I guess it's also Michael 
Lambie) - - - -

Emu never gave us access to one and now the product is
discontinued. We support the Proteus 2000, however, and this will 
give
you access to the shared parameters at least.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
 - - - - - - -

I replied to them again that this is the story everytime someone 
asks about supporting a product. The last update on there website is 
from July 2003. I guess the next update will come with the release 
of a new version, and that's gonna cost you again!

Bought there product June 2003 and asked for supporting the Novation 
KS serie and the Jomox Airbase ever since. The asked me to supply 
SysEx data. I contacted the manufacturers and sent them everything 
they needed.

Still no support for those machines! And the KS serie isn't 
discontinued so I don't know what explanation the'll have on that 
one.

Sorry to say it, the company s*cks! BIG TIME!

Maik





--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Mike-E" <d_jumpmaster@y...> wrote:
> Sent them a message three weeks ago... no answer.
> Sent them a message yesterday... no answer yet.
> 
> More Midi Quest users over here? Please e-mail them for Command 
> Station support.
> 
> Maik
> 
> 
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Mike-E" <d_jumpmaster@y...> wrote:
> > Well I'm sorry but when you sell a product you also should 
supply 
> > support. This guy(s) at SoundQuest always has something else 
coming 

> > up. A new release, a next service pack, Music Messe etc.
> > 
> > I'm trying to get Novation KS series support since June 2003. 
> Please 
> > take a look at there site... do you see any KS support yet?
> > 
> > Maik
> > 
> > 
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Mark <sparky2004music@y...> wrote:
> > > Seems like there is something big going on that is
> > > taking up all their time. I clipped this from an email
> > > that was forwarded to me. I responded with another
> > > request for an XL-7 command station update. I think
> > > I'll hang in there quietly for a while longer. Turby,
> > > I share your frustration.  I'm told that all this
> > > takes is a bunch of time to set up, once you
> > > understand the midi spec and the editor format. But
> > > it's beyond me at this point. I'm not a midi
> > > programmer and that puts me at the developer's mercy
> > > when it comes to an editor. i'll report back if I hear
> > > any more.
> > > Peace,
> > > Mark
> > > 
> > > __________________________________
> > > Do you Yahoo!?
> > > Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time.
> > > http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html

From what I can tell, they will program for it if the manufacturer 
gives them a unit.  Do we need a different version of MidiQuest to 
program it ourselves?

Mark
--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "d_mike_e" <d_jumpmaster@y...> wrote:
> Finally I got a reply from SoundQuest on the support of the 
Command 
> Station in there MidiQuest product.
> 
> And as I thought... promisses, promisses... and that's it.
> 
> - - - - reply from there sales department (I guess it's also 
Michael 
> Lambie) - - - -
> 
> Emu never gave us access to one and now the product is
> discontinued. We support the Proteus 2000, however, and this will 
> give
> you access to the shared parameters at least.
> 
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
 -
>  - - - - - - -
> 
> I replied to them again that this is the story everytime someone 
> asks about supporting a product. The last update on there website 
is 
> from July 2003. I guess the next update will come with the release 
> of a new version, and that's gonna cost you again!
> 
> Bought there product June 2003 and asked for supporting the 
Novation 

> KS serie and the Jomox Airbase ever since. The asked me to supply 
> SysEx data. I contacted the manufacturers and sent them everything 
> they needed.
> 
> Still no support for those machines! And the KS serie isn't 
> discontinued so I don't know what explanation the'll have on that 
> one.
> 
> Sorry to say it, the company s*cks! BIG TIME!
> 
> Maik
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Mike-E" <d_jumpmaster@y...> wrote:
> > Sent them a message three weeks ago... no answer.
> > Sent them a message yesterday... no answer yet.
> > 
> > More Midi Quest users over here? Please e-mail them for Command 
> > Station support.
> > 
> > Maik
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Mike-E" <d_jumpmaster@y...> wrote:
> > > Well I'm sorry but when you sell a product you also should 
> supply 
> > > support. This guy(s) at SoundQuest always has something else 
> coming 
> > > up. A new release, a next service pack, Music Messe etc.
> > > 
> > > I'm trying to get Novation KS series support since June 2003. 
> > Please 
> > > take a look at there site... do you see any KS support yet?
> > > 
> > > Maik
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Mark <sparky2004music@y...> wrote:
> > > > Seems like there is something big going on that is
> > > > taking up all their time. I clipped this from an email
> > > > that was forwarded to me. I responded with another
> > > > request for an XL-7 command station update. I think
> > > > I'll hang in there quietly for a while longer. Turby,
> > > > I share your frustration.  I'm told that all this
> > > > takes is a bunch of time to set up, once you
> > > > understand the midi spec and the editor format. But
> > > > it's beyond me at this point. I'm not a midi
> > > > programmer and that puts me at the developer's mercy
> > > > when it comes to an editor. i'll report back if I hear
> > > > any more.
> > > > Peace,
> > > > Mark
> > > > 
> > > > __________________________________
> > > > Do you Yahoo!?
> > > > Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time.
> > > > http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html

Thats the line they gave me six months ago, which is why I went to 
the Proteum editor.....
--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "sparky2m4" <mcandrews@f...> wrote:
> From what I can tell, they will program for it if the manufacturer 
> gives them a unit.  Do we need a different version of MidiQuest to 
> program it ourselves?
> 
> Mark
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "d_mike_e" <d_jumpmaster@y...> wrote:
> > Finally I got a reply from SoundQuest on the support of the 
> Command 
> > Station in there MidiQuest product.
> > 
> > And as I thought... promisses, promisses... and that's it.
> > 
> > - - - - reply from there sales department (I guess it's also 
> Michael 
> > Lambie) - - - -
> > 
> > Emu never gave us access to one and now the product is
> > discontinued. We support the Proteus 2000, however, and this 
will 
> > give
> > you access to the shared parameters at least.
> > 
> > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
 -
>  -
> >  - - - - - - -
> > 
> > I replied to them again that this is the story everytime someone 
> > asks about supporting a product. The last update on there 
website 
> is 
> > from July 2003. I guess the next update will come with the 
release 
> > of a new version, and that's gonna cost you again!
> > 
> > Bought there product June 2003 and asked for supporting the 
> Novation 
> > KS serie and the Jomox Airbase ever since. The asked me to 
supply 
> > SysEx data. I contacted the manufacturers and sent them 
everything 
> > they needed.
> > 
> > Still no support for those machines! And the KS serie isn't 
> > discontinued so I don't know what explanation the'll have on 
that 
> > one.
> > 
> > Sorry to say it, the company s*cks! BIG TIME!
> > 
> > Maik
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Mike-E" <d_jumpmaster@y...> wrote:
> > > Sent them a message three weeks ago... no answer.
> > > Sent them a message yesterday... no answer yet.
> > > 
> > > More Midi Quest users over here? Please e-mail them for 
Command 
> > > Station support.
> > > 
> > > Maik
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Mike-E" <d_jumpmaster@y...> wrote:
> > > > Well I'm sorry but when you sell a product you also should 
> > supply 
> > > > support. This guy(s) at SoundQuest always has something else 
> > coming 
> > > > up. A new release, a next service pack, Music Messe etc.
> > > > 
> > > > I'm trying to get Novation KS series support since June 
2003. 
> > > Please 
> > > > take a look at there site... do you see any KS support yet?
> > > > 
> > > > Maik
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Mark <sparky2004music@y...> 
wrote:

> > > > > Seems like there is something big going on that is
> > > > > taking up all their time. I clipped this from an email
> > > > > that was forwarded to me. I responded with another
> > > > > request for an XL-7 command station update. I think
> > > > > I'll hang in there quietly for a while longer. Turby,
> > > > > I share your frustration.  I'm told that all this
> > > > > takes is a bunch of time to set up, once you
> > > > > understand the midi spec and the editor format. But
> > > > > it's beyond me at this point. I'm not a midi
> > > > > programmer and that puts me at the developer's mercy
> > > > > when it comes to an editor. i'll report back if I hear
> > > > > any more.
> > > > > Peace,
> > > > > Mark
> > > > > 
> > > > > __________________________________
> > > > > Do you Yahoo!?
> > > > > Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time.
> > > > > http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html

I've been a good boy and have kept quite on this topic, but..... these guys have had the same
opportunities to get a command station as you have had.  We haven't had E-MU guards at any music
dealers in years making sure our products don't get into the hands of the" wrong people".  The
Proteum editor looks great, and they did their work without any freebee's from E-MU.

sean at e-mu


                                                                                                                            
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Thats the line they gave me six months ago, which is why I went to
the Proteum editor.....
--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "sparky2m4" <mcandrews@f...> wrote:
> From what I can tell, they will program for it if the manufacturer
> gives them a unit.  Do we need a different version of MidiQuest to
> program it ourselves?
>
> Mark
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "d_mike_e" <d_jumpmaster@y...> wrote:
> > Finally I got a reply from SoundQuest on the support of the
> Command
> > Station in there MidiQuest product.
> >
> > And as I thought... promisses, promisses... and that's it.
> >
> > - - - - reply from there sales department (I guess it's also
> Michael
> > Lambie) - - - -
> >
> > Emu never gave us access to one and now the product is
> > discontinued. We support the Proteus 2000, however, and this
will
> > give
> > you access to the shared parameters at least.
> >
> > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
 -
>  -
> >  - - - - - - -
> >
> > I replied to them again that this is the story everytime someone
> > asks about supporting a product. The last update on there
website
> is
> > from July 2003. I guess the next update will come with the
release
> > of a new version, and that's gonna cost you again!
> >
> > Bought there product June 2003 and asked for supporting the
> Novation
> > KS serie and the Jomox Airbase ever since. The asked me to
supply
> > SysEx data. I contacted the manufacturers and sent them
everything
> > they needed.
> >
> > Still no support for those machines! And the KS serie isn't
> > discontinued so I don't know what explanation the'll have on
that
> > one.
> >
> > Sorry to say it, the company s*cks! BIG TIME!
> >
> > Maik
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Mike-E" <d_jumpmaster@y...> wrote:
> > > Sent them a message three weeks ago... no answer.
> > > Sent them a message yesterday... no answer yet.
> > >
> > > More Midi Quest users over here? Please e-mail them for
Command
> > > Station support.
> > >
> > > Maik
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Mike-E" <d_jumpmaster@y...> wrote:
> > > > Well I'm sorry but when you sell a product you also should
> > supply
> > > > support. This guy(s) at SoundQuest always has something else
> > coming
> > > > up. A new release, a next service pack, Music Messe etc.
> > > >
> > > > I'm trying to get Novation KS series support since June
2003.
> > > Please
> > > > take a look at there site... do you see any KS support yet?
> > > >
> > > > Maik
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Mark <sparky2004music@y...>
wrote:
> > > > > Seems like there is something big going on that is
> > > > > taking up all their time. I clipped this from an email
> > > > > that was forwarded to me. I responded with another
> > > > > request for an XL-7 command station update. I think
> > > > > I'll hang in there quietly for a while longer. Turby,
> > > > > I share your frustration.  I'm told that all this
> > > > > takes is a bunch of time to set up, once you
> > > > > understand the midi spec and the editor format. But
> > > > > it's beyond me at this point. I'm not a midi
> > > > > programmer and that puts me at the developer's mercy
> > > > > when it comes to an editor. i'll report back if I hear
> > > > > any more.
> > > > > Peace,
> > > > > Mark
> > > > >
> > > > > __________________________________
> > > > > Do you Yahoo!?
> > > > > Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time.
> > > > > http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html





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Yeah, there's really no reason to think they're ever going to release an 
editor for the XX-7's, so I wouldn't even bother hounding at Soundquest 
anymore, no worth the hassle.  If people truly need a preset editor, 
Proteaum does indeed work, though I personally found it easier to just 
program from the XX-7's front panel still.  Proteum works, but I didn't 
think it was that good of an editor to be honest, too many tabbed pages 
still.

rEalm




I've been a good boy and have kept quite on this topic, but..... these 
guys have had the same
opportunities to get a command station as you have had.  We haven't had 
E-MU guards at any music
dealers in years making sure our products don't get into the hands of the" 
wrong people".  The
Proteum editor looks great, and they did their work without any freebee's 
from E-MU.

sean at e-mu


Thats the line they gave me six months ago, which is why I went to
the Proteum editor.....


 






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> I've been a good boy and have kept quite on this topic, but..... these guys have had the same
> opportunities to get a command station as you have had.  We haven't had E-MU guards at any music
> dealers in years making sure our products don't get into the hands of the" wrong people".  The
> Proteum editor looks great, and they did their work without any freebee's from E-MU.

yeah Sean, Emagic seems to give the same line a lot of use these days as well.  no SoundDiver editor for the command stations because they don't have one to test. never mind that the patch structure of the units is identical to the rest of the P2K line.  at the very least they could make an adaptation that edits and does librarian functions for the patches.

MOTU seemed to be able to do it for Unisyn - that's what i use these days (when i venture back into Mac OS 9) - it works extremely well, truly a superior editor/librarian for the command station (even works with Arps and Multisetups!)...

--
Bruddah Max
Lord of the Dance

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, <bruddahmax@c...> wrote:
> MOTU seemed to be able to do it for Unisyn - that's what i use 
these days (when i venture back into Mac OS 9) - it works extremely 
well, truly a superior editor/librarian for the command station (even 
works with Arps and Multisetups!)...

Interesting... I have no compelling reason to use OS 9 with my XL-7 
because it already has OS 2.0, so I'm open to getting a good Mac OS X 
editor/librarian for it.

I wonder if I can get a package deal from one of the music stores for 
Unisyn + MOTU 828MkII...

Paolo

paolovalladolid wrote:

> Interesting... I have no compelling reason to use OS 9 with my XL-7
> because it already has OS 2.0, so I'm open to getting a good Mac OS X
> editor/librarian for it.
> 
> I wonder if I can get a package deal from one of the music stores for
> Unisyn + MOTU 828MkII...

well version 2.0.2 of Unisyn (Mac OS 9) works great. i've heard conflicting
things about the X version (2.1), that it is somewhat buggy in some modules,
but nothing specifically stating that version 2.1 has a buggy Command
Station editor/librarian module.

also finding version 2.1 in retail is nigh upon impossible - not sure why.
MOTU has it for $199, which i find to be high. but, if you program a lot or
do lots of patch swapping in and out of multiple synths (not worth it for
one instrument) i think one could justify the price. $99 to upgrade seems
excessive as well. i keep Mac OS 9 around because i can (and i've got about
$20,000 in software invested in Classic Macintosh software, not about to
ditch them entirely - some have no Mac OS X equivalents. :(

-- 
Bruddah Max
Lord of the Dance

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Bruddah Max <bruddahmax@c...> wrote:

> MOTU has it for $199, which i find to be high. but, if you program a
lot or
> do lots of patch swapping in and out of multiple synths (not worth
it for
> one instrument) i think one could justify the price. $99 to upgrade
seems
> excessive as well. i keep Mac OS 9 around because i can (and i've
got about
> $20,000 in software invested in Classic Macintosh software, not about to
> ditch them entirely - some have no Mac OS X equivalents. :(
> 
> -- 
> Bruddah Max
> Lord of the Dance

Good points.  My other synths are a Nord Micromodular and a Nord
Modular G2, both of which come with their own editors.  So I'd only be
using Unisyn for the XL-7, which would indeed make Unisyn not worth
the money for me.

I have to use Mac OS 9 too, actually, because of the Micromodular.

I'm still learning my way around the XL-7 (damn, what a DEEP machine!)
so I'm not absolutely sure I need to pay $180-$250 for a pretty
graphical editor.  I started thinking about whether I need one when I
realized E-Loader doesn't come with an editor/librarian.

Paolo

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "paolovalladolid" <paolovalladolid@y...> 
> I'm still learning my way around the XL-7 (damn, what a DEEP 
machine!)
> so I'm not absolutely sure I need to pay $180-$250 for a pretty
> graphical editor.  I started thinking about whether I need one when 
I
> realized E-Loader doesn't come with an editor/librarian.

Given the QuickEdit knobs, the trigger buttons for jumping around in 
the menus, and the instrument categories I personally don't feel much 
need (yet) for a computer editor (I prefer editing from the front 
panel of my Virus, too). And computer editing feels a little clunky 
to me, with all the MIDI back-and-forthing. It would be nice to be 
able to see envelope shapes and so forth on occasion, though.

Given the QuickEdit knobs, the trigger buttons for jumping around in 
the menus, and the instrument categories I personally don't feel much 
need (yet) for a computer editor (I prefer editing from the front 
panel of my Virus, too). 

>>>Ditto, once you know your way around the menu's front panel editing is 
dead easy and fast. <<<

It would be nice to be able to see envelope shapes and so forth on 
occasion, though.

>>>Haha, that's the only reason I'd want a computer editor too. :) <<

rEalm




 
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erik_magrini@... wrote:

> It would be nice to be able to see envelope shapes and so forth on
> occasion, though.
> 
>>>> Haha, that's the only reason I'd want a computer editor too. :) <<

well, the great thing about Unisyn (and i just upgraded to 2.1 for X, so
we'll see how well that works) is that it presents all of the parameters on
one screen with the envelopes graphically displayed. plus it includes a
graphical arpeggiator editor and publishes the patch names to the FreeMIDI
(and CoreMIDI) patch lists, so Digital Performer's patch menus stay updated.
the integration with DP is really phenomenal, and i'm chomping at the bit to
leave Mac OS 9 behind forever and stay in X full time. yee howdy!

the great thing about the XX-7s though is that they're pretty much all in
one boxes - no computer required. with all them knobs editing is pretty darn
easy, and it's nice to be able to write all of the knob tweaks into a
pattern. :D

-- 
Bruddah Max
Lord of the Dance

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Bruddah Max <bruddahmax@c...> wrote:
> erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> 
> > It would be nice to be able to see envelope shapes and so forth on
> > occasion, though.
> > 
> >>>> Haha, that's the only reason I'd want a computer editor too. :) <<
> 
> well, the great thing about Unisyn (and i just upgraded to 2.1 for X, so
> we'll see how well that works) is that it presents all of the
parameters on
> one screen with the envelopes graphically displayed. plus it includes a
> graphical arpeggiator editor and publishes the patch names to the
FreeMIDI
> (and CoreMIDI) patch lists, so Digital Performer's patch menus stay
updated.
> the integration with DP is really phenomenal, and i'm chomping at
the bit to
> leave Mac OS 9 behind forever and stay in X full time. yee howdy!

Bruddah, you are making it hard for me to follow robotchas' advice!

I just saw on MOTU's website that I can get Digital Performer for $395
list as an upgrade from a "competing product".  I'll ask my local
store about this - maybe they can offer a package deal on that plus
Unisyn.

If this is true, I can go ahead and use my Logic Audio Big Box/Delta
66 setup for multitrack audio recording until I'm ready, then go for
the competitive upgrade (some places have it for $300) and still use
my Delta 66).  Nothing against Logic - but with my Nords and XL-7, I
don't really care about "losing" Emagic/Apple's soft synths.

Paolo

i've been holding out on Unisyn for OS X myself, but i think you've
just 
convinced me! i agree that front panel editing doesn't get much
better than the 
XL-7, but updating patch lists to DP would be pretty nifty for me.
and seeing 
envelopes and such wouldn't hurt either...

when you've had a chance to check out its stability/reliability for
OS X, will you 
let the group know? also, with Unisyn 2.1, is there support for the
Nord 
Modular? not the G2 - the older one.

by the way - nothing has improved my life more than leaving OS 9,
OMS, and 
FreeMIDI behind forever. you will NOT regret it!

rock on

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "paolovalladolid" <paolovalladolid@y...>
wrote:
> > well, the great thing about Unisyn (and i just upgraded to 2.1
for X, so
> > we'll see how well that works) is that it presents all of the
> parameters on
> > one screen with the envelopes graphically displayed. plus it
includes a
> > graphical arpeggiator editor and publishes the patch names to the
> FreeMIDI
> > (and CoreMIDI) patch lists, so Digital Performer's patch menus
stay

> updated.
> > the integration with DP is really phenomenal, and i'm chomping at
> the bit to
> > leave Mac OS 9 behind forever and stay in X full time. yee howdy!
> 
> Paolo

wildstar_1701 wrote:

> when you've had a chance to check out its stability/reliability for OS X, will
> you let the group know?

indeed i shall. :D

> also, with Unisyn 2.1, is there support for the Nord Modular? not the G2 - the
> older one.

based on the way the Nord Modular series works, i think only Clavia will
ever have software for it.

not to worry, Clavia has a new editor for Mac OS X:
http://www.clavia.se/News/G2XandOSX.htm

-- 
Bruddah Max
Lord of the Dance

Bruddah Max wrote:

> not to worry, Clavia has a new editor for Mac OS X:
> http://www.clavia.se/News/G2XandOSX.htm

looks like that¹s for the G2X only... bummer!
-- 
Bruddah Max
Lord of the Dance

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Bruddah Max <bruddahmax@c...> wrote:
> Bruddah Max wrote:
> 
> > not to worry, Clavia has a new editor for Mac OS X:
> > http://www.clavia.se/News/G2XandOSX.htm
> 
> looks like that¹s for the G2X only... bummer!
> -- 
> Bruddah Max
> Lord of the Dance

Somebody wrote a Mac OS X editor for the previous Nord Modular series.
 It's in the Files section of the nord_modular Yahoo Group.

I haven't tried it, because 1. I still have a couple of Macs that can
boot to OS 9 and 2. I'm too focused on the XL-7 anyway (must...
keep... GAS... under... control...)

-g