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In the hypothetical OS 2.5 or 3.0:

- While editing patch, pattern or song names, pressing ERASE should 
delete the currently selected character and REPEAT should insert a 
duplicate of it.

- It would be really nice if the QuickEdit knobs could be assigned to 
the *full* range of controller numbers. As it stands I can't assign 
several of them to the corresponding Virus parameters.

Nice, I'll one too:

- When you're in Note List mode, there should be away to sound each note 
as you scroll through them.  Makes it much easier to find a bum note!

rEalm






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In the hypothetical OS 2.5 or 3.0:

- While editing patch, pattern or song names, pressing ERASE should 
delete the currently selected character and REPEAT should insert a 
duplicate of it.

- It would be really nice if the QuickEdit knobs could be assigned to 
the *full* range of controller numbers. As it stands I can't assign 
several of them to the corresponding Virus parameters.




 

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mines are

make it possible to use parts of patterns in songedit

make it possible to program varios prgmble controlersetups independently 
from multisetup

make it possible to go to grid recording without stopping the machine

[tbc]


>From: erik_magrini@...

>
>Nice, I'll one too:
>
>- When you're in Note List mode, there should be away to sound each note
>as you scroll through them.  Makes it much easier to find a bum note!
>
>rEalm
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>In the hypothetical OS 2.5 or 3.0:
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>delete the currently selected character and REPEAT should insert a
>duplicate of it.
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>several of them to the corresponding Virus parameters.
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--- Turby Schmidt <trabantmusic@...> wrote:
> make it possible to go to grid recording without stopping the machine

I always love it when people ask for features that are already in
there... =)

Hold play and hit rec.

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Press and hold PLAY, then press REC  :)  We'll call it OS 2.00001 just for 
you :)

rEalm





make it possible to go to grid recording without stopping the machine

[tbc]


>From: erik_magrini@...

>
>Nice, I'll one too:
>
>- When you're in Note List mode, there should be away to sound each note
>as you scroll through them.  Makes it much easier to find a bum note!
>
>rEalm
>

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>In the hypothetical OS 2.5 or 3.0:
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>- While editing patch, pattern or song names, pressing ERASE should
>delete the currently selected character and REPEAT should insert a
>duplicate of it.
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>- It would be really nice if the QuickEdit knobs could be assigned to
>the *full* range of controller numbers. As it stands I can't assign
>several of them to the corresponding Virus parameters.
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>make it possible to go to grid recording without stopping the machine

you already can. I don't have my mp7 here to tell you exactly the right 
Play/Rec keypress sequence, but I use that all the time... maybe someone 
else can help more specifically...

ciao
leo

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

>Press and hold PLAY, then press REC  :)  We'll call it OS 2.00001 just for
>you :)
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I would like to be able to store patterns with no data in them, but 
still retain the track routing information.  For example, midi 
channel and internal/external/both settings. 
-grimley

people talked about this, yesterday, i think it was, realm has recomended to 
store a cc in every track, if there is absoluly no data recorded you gona 
loose the int, ext settings

>From: "Justin Grimley" <grimley@...>
>Reply-To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
>To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [xl7] Re: Feature Requests
>Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2004 23:18:01 -0000
>
>I would like to be able to store patterns with no data in them, but
>still retain the track routing information.  For example, midi
>channel and internal/external/both settings.
>-grimley
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I'm a new member to this group and I'm (very) supprised about the 
Feature Requests messages.

Is there a new OS coming up?

Maik


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Turby Schmidt" <trabantmusic@h...> wrote:
> 
> people talked about this, yesterday, i think it was, realm has 
recomended to 
> store a cc in every track, if there is absoluly no data recorded 
you gona 

> loose the int, ext settings
> 
> >From: "Justin Grimley" <grimley@i...>
> >Reply-To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> >To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [xl7] Re: Feature Requests
> >Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2004 23:18:01 -0000
> >
> >I would like to be able to store patterns with no data in them, but
> >still retain the track routing information.  For example, midi
> >channel and internal/external/both settings.
> >-grimley
> >
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??????  Honestly, we don't know.  The guy who does the OS updates (aaron) 
is on this list and a frequent poster, so we just occasionally start a 
"Feature Request" thread to let him know how much we really appreciate 
him!  :)


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--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> ??????  Honestly, we don't know.  The guy who does the OS updates
> (aaron) is on this list and a frequent poster, so we just
> occasionally start a "Feature Request" thread to let him know how
> much we really appreciate him!  :)

I agree!  Also:
(1)  Its fun to dream of things that aren't in existence.
(2)  Its great to discover that some of those things really are!

               |8-[)>

--- robotchas <robotchas@...> schrieb: > In the
hypothetical OS 2.5 or 3.0:
> snip <
> - It would be really nice if the QuickEdit knobs
> could be assigned to 
> the *full* range of controller numbers. As it stands
> I can't assign 
> several of them to the corresponding Virus
> parameters.

yes, that would be useful!

another suggestion:

for the moment i find it to be really annoying that
when i sequence external gear from the xl7 and want to
use the 16 knobs as midi controllers for external
synths, that i can't switch between multisetups
without it changing all the other settings too. it
would be very very useful to have the possibility to
change 'multisetups' only for the 16 knobs and not for
anything else, in order to be able to change only the
knobs' assignments while playing/sequencing without
messing up all the rest. then you would be able to
jump from controlling one particular external
synth/module/sampler to another one while
playing/sequencing. what it comes down to: something
like a 'sub-multisetup' only for the 16 knobs.

hans

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This MIGHT be possible with a workaround from within the E-Mu 
itself.  I believe it is possible using sysex commands from an 
external source.

Caveats:  (1) I might be wrong.  (2) There might be an easier way.

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--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, G e r ä u s c h d i c h t e wrote:

[SNIP]

> it would be very very useful to have the possibility to
> change 'multisetups' only for the 16 knobs and not for
> anything else, in order to be able to change only the
> knobs' assignments while playing/sequencing without
> messing up all the rest. then you would be able to
> jump from controlling one particular external
> synth/module/sampler to another one while
> playing/sequencing. what it comes down to: something
> like a 'sub-multisetup' only for the 16 knobs.
> 
> hans
>

Would it work if you used two identical multis, except for the knob 
assignments?

>--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, G e r \ufffd u s c h d i c h t e wrote:
>  
>
>>it would be very very useful to have the possibility to
>>change 'multisetups' only for the 16 knobs and not for
>>anything else, in order to be able to change only the
>>knobs' assignments while playing/sequencing without
>>messing up all the rest. then you would be able to
>>jump from controlling one particular external
>>synth/module/sampler to another one while
>>playing/sequencing. what it comes down to: something
>>like a 'sub-multisetup' only for the 16 knobs.
>>
>>hans
>>    
>>

--- Greg Waltzer <gwaltzer@...> schrieb: >
Would it work if you used two identical multis,
> except for the knob 
> assignments?

in a way, but i use the xl7 as my master sequencer to
control a bunch of external gear, and i don't use the
same gear in every song, so settings are different in
every pattern, which means that when a pattern is
playing and i change multisetuup, i might screw up the
pattern because the multisetup settings don't match
the pattern's. didn't have much time to play music in
my home studio in the last week, because i had to
rehearse a lot with the bands, but i'll have to delve
deeper in the matter and see if i can find a
workaround. initialized my xl7 last weekend, so i'll
have to start all over again anyway...

hans

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If you can afford it I recommend adding a dedicated faderbox (Peavey 
PC-1600, Kenton Control Freak, one of the Doepfer boxes). Not as 
convenient or as cheap as just using the xl7 for everything, but much 
more flexible...

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, G e r ä u s c h d i c h t e 
<geraeuschdichte@y...> wrote:

>  --- Greg Waltzer <gwaltzer@o...> schrieb: >
> Would it work if you used two identical multis,
> > except for the knob 
> > assignments?
> 
> in a way, but i use the xl7 as my master sequencer to
> control a bunch of external gear, and i don't use the
> same gear in every song, so settings are different in
> every pattern, which means that when a pattern is
> playing and i change multisetuup, i might screw up the
> pattern because the multisetup settings don't match
> the pattern's. didn't have much time to play music in
> my home studio in the last week, because i had to
> rehearse a lot with the bands, but i'll have to delve
> deeper in the matter and see if i can find a
> workaround. initialized my xl7 last weekend, so i'll
> have to start all over again anyway...
> 
> hans
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Yep, and it was me who requested this.  The workaround is OK, except 
if you do a quick erase on a track (which is probably my most 
frequently used shortcut) you lose your dummy cc as well.
-grimley

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Turby Schmidt" <trabantmusic@h...> wrote:
> 
> people talked about this, yesterday, i think it was, realm has 
recomended to 
> store a cc in every track, if there is absoluly no data recorded 
you gona 

> loose the int, ext settings
> 
> >From: "Justin Grimley" <grimley@i...>
> >Reply-To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> >To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [xl7] Re: Feature Requests
> >Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2004 23:18:01 -0000
> >
> >I would like to be able to store patterns with no data in them, but
> >still retain the track routing information.  For example, midi
> >channel and internal/external/both settings.
> >-grimley
> >
> >
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I would like an arpeggiator that worked properly... or at least somebody to
test theirs and see if there really is a bug with it...

C'mon guys, it would only take a few minutes and a proven bug would increase
the pressure on E-MU and/or Aaron to release a new OS!

The settings you need to test are:

Arp mode: up
Extension count: 15
Extension interval: 1

I suggest a note value of 1/4 so it is easier to count the number of notes
before the arp loops.

Thanks,

Stu

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From: Justin Grimley [mailto:grimley@...]
Sent: 06 February 2004 19:31
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [xl7] Re: Feature Requests


Yep, and it was me who requested this.  The workaround is OK, except
if you do a quick erase on a track (which is probably my most
frequently used shortcut) you lose your dummy cc as well.
-grimley

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Turby Schmidt" <trabantmusic@h...> wrote:
>
> people talked about this, yesterday, i think it was, realm has
recomended to
> store a cc in every track, if there is absoluly no data recorded
you gona
> loose the int, ext settings
>
> >From: "Justin Grimley" <grimley@i...>
> >Reply-To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> >To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [xl7] Re: Feature Requests
> >Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2004 23:18:01 -0000
> >
> >I would like to be able to store patterns with no data in them, but
> >still retain the track routing information.  For example, midi
> >channel and internal/external/both settings.
> >-grimley
> >
> >
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--- robotchas <robotchas@...> schrieb: > If you
can afford it I recommend adding a dedicated
> faderbox (Peavey 
> PC-1600, Kenton Control Freak, one of the Doepfer
> boxes). 

the gas filled my appartment and emptied my wallet...
:o/

thanks for the tip! i had it in mind already but for
the moment there's other things more important to
spend my money on.




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Despite nobody being bothered to confirm this for me, I have come to the
conclusion that there is a bug in the arpeggiators.

I'm really surprised that no-one has anything to say about this seeing as
the arps are a pretty big part of the xx-7s.

Hopefully Aaron will take a look when he has a chance, tho I realise I am
probably the only person who uses arps with extension count 15 so I doubt he
will actually do anything about it...

I'm just a bit disappointed in the lack of response on this issue.

Cheers anyway,

Stu

I use arps all the time on the XL-7, but I never use the extension 
count, except maybe =1 with an interval of 12. Next time I have my XL-7 
out, I'll check for this bug.

Stu wrote:

>Despite nobody being bothered to confirm this for me, I have come to the
>conclusion that there is a bug in the arpeggiators.
>
>I'm really surprised that no-one has anything to say about this seeing as
>the arps are a pretty big part of the xx-7s.
>
>Hopefully Aaron will take a look when he has a chance, tho I realise I am
>probably the only person who uses arps with extension count 15 so I doubt he
>will actually do anything about it...
>
>I'm just a bit disappointed in the lack of response on this issue.
>
>Cheers anyway,
>
>Stu
>  
>

If I were to spin a release to fix this, it would be to limit the
extension count to 14.  Yes, 15 does result in the same as 14, but it's
not like there are a whole bunch of values above 15.  Just pretend 15
doesn't exist, and it works perfectly.

-Aaron

--- Stu <routerman@...> wrote:
> Despite nobody being bothered to confirm this for me, I have come to
> the conclusion that there is a bug in the arpeggiators.
> 
> I'm really surprised that no-one has anything to say about this
> seeing as the arps are a pretty big part of the xx-7s.

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Only problem is extension count 15 results in 16 notes being repeated, so it
stays in time with 4/4.

Stu

-----Original Message-----
From: Aaron Eppolito [mailto:synthesis77@...]
Sent: 07 February 2004 02:06
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [xl7] Arp bug


If I were to spin a release to fix this, it would be to limit the
extension count to 14.  Yes, 15 does result in the same as 14, but it's
not like there are a whole bunch of values above 15.  Just pretend 15
doesn't exist, and it works perfectly.

-Aaron

--- Stu <routerman@...> wrote:
> Despite nobody being bothered to confirm this for me, I have come to
> the conclusion that there is a bug in the arpeggiators.
>
> I'm really surprised that no-one has anything to say about this
> seeing as the arps are a pretty big part of the xx-7s.

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i was some sleepy this day.............
midinovela

>From: "Justin Grimley" <grimley@...>
>Reply-To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
>To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [xl7] Re: Feature Requests
>Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 19:31:14 -0000
>
>Yep, and it was me who requested this.  The workaround is OK, except
>if you do a quick erase on a track (which is probably my most
>frequently used shortcut) you lose your dummy cc as well.
>-grimley
>
>--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Turby Schmidt" <trabantmusic@h...> wrote:
> >
> > people talked about this, yesterday, i think it was, realm has
>recomended to
> > store a cc in every track, if there is absoluly no data recorded
>you gona
> > loose the int, ext settings
> >
> > >From: "Justin Grimley" <grimley@i...>
> > >Reply-To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> > >To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: [xl7] Re: Feature Requests
> > >Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2004 23:18:01 -0000
> > >
> > >I would like to be able to store patterns with no data in them, but
> > >still retain the track routing information.  For example, midi
> > >channel and internal/external/both settings.
> > >-grimley
> > >
> > >
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Hi Aaron,

Given your recent attitude when confronted with monir bugs in the xx-7s, I
get the impression that, despite your previous messages hinting the
opposite, there will NOT be any more OS updates for th xx-7s.

If that's the case then you should just come out and say it, rather than get
people's hopes up. At the moment I can't think of any good reasons as to why
you would bother to tell the group that you have it in your power to produce
a new OS, only bad ones.

I also have to admit that I am a bit pissed off with the reply you gave me
on this issue of the arp bug. Anyone who took pride in their work would at
least look into the possibility of fixing the bug, rather than just hiding
their head in the sand and saying something like "If I were to spin a
release to fix this, it would be to limit the extension count to 14." Don't
waste your time spinning such a release could I wouldn't install it anyway.
And 'pretending' that bugs don't exist doesn't solve the problem. I still
can't believe you said that!

Sorry if I don't use my xx-7 in a conventional way, and instead try to push
it to do something a bit more amazing. I applaud you on producing an
excellent hardware sequencer, but it falls just short of being something
special if you ask me.

Regards,

Stu

|-----Original Message-----
|From: Aaron Eppolito [mailto:synthesis77@...]
|Sent: 07 February 2004 02:06
|To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
|Subject: Re: [xl7] Arp bug
|
|
|If I were to spin a release to fix this, it would be to limit the
|extension count to 14.  Yes, 15 does result in the same as 14, but it's
|not like there are a whole bunch of values above 15.  Just pretend 15
|doesn't exist, and it works perfectly.
|
|-Aaron
|
|--- Stu <routerman@...> wrote:
|> Despite nobody being bothered to confirm this for me, I have come to
|> the conclusion that there is a bug in the arpeggiators.
|>
|> I'm really surprised that no-one has anything to say about this
|> seeing as the arps are a pretty big part of the xx-7s.
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Stu 
  To: xl7@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 11:33 AM
  Subject: RE: [xl7] Arp bug


  Hi Aaron,

  Given your recent attitude when confronted with monir bugs in the xx-7s, I
  get the impression that, despite your previous messages hinting the
  opposite, there will NOT be any more OS updates for th xx-7s.

  If that's the case then you should just come out and say it, rather than get
  people's hopes up. At the moment I can't think of any good reasons as to why
  you would bother to tell the group that you have it in your power to produce
  a new OS, only bad ones.

  I also have to admit that I am a bit pissed off with the reply you gave me
  on this issue of the arp bug. Anyone who took pride in their work would at
  least look into the possibility of fixing the bug, rather than just hiding
  their head in the sand and saying something like "If I were to spin a
  release to fix this, it would be to limit the extension count to 14." Don't
  waste your time spinning such a release could I wouldn't install it anyway.
  And 'pretending' that bugs don't exist doesn't solve the problem. I still
  can't believe you said that!

  Sorry if I don't use my xx-7 in a conventional way, and instead try to push
  it to do something a bit more amazing. I applaud you on producing an
  excellent hardware sequencer, but it falls just short of being something
  special if you ask me.

  Regards,

  Stu

  |-----Original Message-----
  |From: Aaron Eppolito [mailto:synthesis77@...]
  |Sent: 07 February 2004 02:06
  |To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
  |Subject: Re: [xl7] Arp bug
  |
  |
  |If I were to spin a release to fix this, it would be to limit the
  |extension count to 14.  Yes, 15 does result in the same as 14, but it's
  |not like there are a whole bunch of values above 15.  Just pretend 15
  |doesn't exist, and it works perfectly.
  |
  |-Aaron
  |
  |--- Stu <routerman@...> wrote:
  |> Despite nobody being bothered to confirm this for me, I have come to
  |> the conclusion that there is a bug in the arpeggiators.
  |>
  |> I'm really surprised that no-one has anything to say about this
  |> seeing as the arps are a pretty big part of the xx-7s.
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I would love it if:

track lengths/positions could be altered in real-time, 
independantly. THis would be wicked for creating polyrhythms, or 
catching a section of one track and looping it round. 

Also, a way of switching track patterns in real time... I havent 
used it much so far but x-mix is a bit fiddly, I would like a way of 
switching quickly between different parts of a pattern, and not have 
to wait till the loop finishes - kind of like switching the 
crossfader on a dj mixer.

I wonder, is there any possibility of making the OS user-
configurable so people can program parts of it to do what they want?

on 2/8/04 10:33 AM, Stu wrote:

> Given your recent attitude when confronted with monir bugs in the xx-7s, I
> get the impression that, despite your previous messages hinting the
> opposite, there will NOT be any more OS updates for th xx-7s.

given the context under which 2.0 was developed, it is frankly surprising it
was undertaken and released.

> If that's the case then you should just come out and say it, rather than get
> people's hopes up. At the moment I can't think of any good reasons as to why
> you would bother to tell the group that you have it in your power to produce
> a new OS, only bad ones.

because it is simply the truth, nothing more, nothing less.

you are the one responsible for casting your hope to something over which
you have no control, not Aaron.
 
> I also have to admit that I am a bit pissed off with the reply you gave me
> on this issue of the arp bug. Anyone who took pride in their work would at
> least look into the possibility of fixing the bug, rather than just hiding
> their head in the sand and saying something like "If I were to spin a
> release to fix this, it would be to limit the extension count to 14."

who are you to presume he does not take pride in his work?

who are you to presume he did not look into the possibility of fixing it?

> Don't waste your time spinning such a release could I wouldn't
> install it anyway.

then why the snide tone and sour attitude?

> And 'pretending' that bugs don't exist doesn't solve the problem. I still
> can't believe you said that!

ah well, I guess your inability to believe it is holding you back, and you
are causing your self to be angry.

he offered a simple workaround...the best that could be done given the
situation. funny, you show no humility that he answered your query at all.

> Sorry if I don't use my xx-7 in a conventional way, and instead try to push
> it to do something a bit more amazing.

no need to apologize for that...just your tone in this post.

> I applaud you on producing an excellent hardware sequencer, but it falls
> just short of being something special if you ask me.

no one asked you.


Namaste,
aeon

---If you'd been on this forum for more than 10 minutes you'd be 
aware of the tremendous contribution Aaron's made to the users 
group.  He's really gone out of his way to be helpful and answer 
questions, and as we recently discovered, he doesn't work for Emu 
now.  We all owe him a huge vote of thanks.  And by the way, the arp 
extension bug seems like a very small issue compared to what you'll 
find with some items of digital gear.  Especially when you consider 
what we gained with the last upgrade.

 In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Stu" <routerman@z...> wrote:
> Hi Aaron,
> 
> Given your recent attitude when confronted with monir bugs in the 
xx-7s, I
> get the impression that, despite your previous messages hinting the
> opposite, there will NOT be any more OS updates for th xx-7s.
> 
> If that's the case then you should just come out and say it, rather 
than get
> people's hopes up. At the moment I can't think of any good reasons 
as to why
> you would bother to tell the group that you have it in your power 
to produce
> a new OS, only bad ones.
> 
> I also have to admit that I am a bit pissed off with the reply you 
gave me
> on this issue of the arp bug. Anyone who took pride in their work 
would at
> least look into the possibility of fixing the bug, rather than just 
hiding
> their head in the sand and saying something like "If I were to spin 
a
> release to fix this, it would be to limit the extension count to 
14." Don't
> waste your time spinning such a release could I wouldn't install it 
anyway.
> And 'pretending' that bugs don't exist doesn't solve the problem. I 
still
> can't believe you said that!
> 
> Sorry if I don't use my xx-7 in a conventional way, and instead try 
to push
> it to do something a bit more amazing. I applaud you on producing an
> excellent hardware sequencer, but it falls just short of being 
something
> special if you ask me.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Stu
> 
> |-----Original Message-----
> |From: Aaron Eppolito [mailto:synthesis77@y...]
> |Sent: 07 February 2004 02:06
> |To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> |Subject: Re: [xl7] Arp bug
> |
> |
> |If I were to spin a release to fix this, it would be to limit the
> |extension count to 14.  Yes, 15 does result in the same as 14, but 
it's
> |not like there are a whole bunch of values above 15.  Just pretend 
15
> |doesn't exist, and it works perfectly.
> |
> |-Aaron
> |
> |--- Stu <routerman@z...> wrote:
> |> Despite nobody being bothered to confirm this for me, I have 
come to

> |> the conclusion that there is a bug in the arpeggiators.
> |>
> |> I'm really surprised that no-one has anything to say about this
> |> seeing as the arps are a pretty big part of the xx-7s.
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First off, I do apologize for the tone I took.  It's partly my sense of
humor (sarcasm rules!) and partly a little bit of frustration that you
were going on and on about a very slight bug.  You seemed like you were
"entitled" to having someone verify your problem.  So yes, my tone was
a bit snide.

That being said, since I don't work for E-mu any longer, I can choose
any tone I like... =)  (there's that sense of humor again)  In general,
I try and be civil.  It's that whole "treat others as you'd have them
treat you" thing.

Yes, I'd like to do a release for the XL-7, but I have more pressing
projects at the moment.  And come on, pride in my work?  Think I'd
bother posting here if I didn't?  =)

-Aaron

> |-----Original Message-----
> |From: Aaron Eppolito [mailto:synthesis77@...]
> |
> |If I were to spin a release to fix this, it would be to limit the
> |extension count to 14.  Yes, 15 does result in the same as 14, but
> |it's not like there are a whole bunch of values above 15.  Just
> |pretend 15 doesn't exist, and it works perfectly.
> |
> |-Aaron
> |
> |--- Stu <routerman@...> wrote:
> |> Despite nobody being bothered to confirm this for me, I have come
> |> to the conclusion that there is a bug in the arpeggiators.
> |> I'm really surprised that no-one has anything to say about this
> |> seeing as the arps are a pretty big part of the xx-7s.

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XMIX'd tracks take place immediately, they don't wait until the end of the 
pattern before becoming active.  I personally never foudn it to be fiddly, 
unless you hit the Track Mutes Select button to check the status of the 
current Mutes, and start muting and un-muting in that instead of leaving 
XMIX mode.

rEalm
(wow, that made no sense)



Also, a way of switching track patterns in real time... I havent 
used it much so far but x-mix is a bit fiddly, I would like a way of 
switching quickly between different parts of a pattern, and not have 
to wait till the loop finishes - kind of like switching the 
crossfader on a dj mixer.

I wonder, is there any possibility of making the OS user-
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First off, I do apologize for the tone I took.  It's partly my sense of
humor (sarcasm rules!) and partly a little bit of frustration that you
were going on and on about a very slight bug.  You seemed like you were
"entitled" to having someone verify your problem.  So yes, my tone was
a bit snide.

That being said, since I don't work for E-mu any longer, I can choose
any tone I like... =)  (there's that sense of humor again)  In general,
I try and be civil.  It's that whole "treat others as you'd have them
treat you" thing.

Yes, I'd like to do a release for the XL-7, but I have more pressing
projects at the moment.  And come on, pride in my work?  Think I'd
bother posting here if I didn't?  =)

-Aaron

> |-----Original Message-----
> |From: Aaron Eppolito [mailto:synthesis77@...]
> |
> |If I were to spin a release to fix this, it would be to limit the
> |extension count to 14.  Yes, 15 does result in the same as 14, but
> |it's not like there are a whole bunch of values above 15.  Just
> |pretend 15 doesn't exist, and it works perfectly.
> |
> |-Aaron
> |
> |--- Stu <routerman@...> wrote:
> |> Despite nobody being bothered to confirm this for me, I have come
> |> to the conclusion that there is a bug in the arpeggiators.
> |> I'm really surprised that no-one has anything to say about this
> |> seeing as the arps are a pretty big part of the xx-7s.

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I also apologise for any upset I may have caused. I didn't mean to sound
like I was 'entitled' to have the the problem verified, and go on and on
about a minor bug, I was just frustrated that, in a forum dedicated to xx-7
users helping each other, nobody seemed bothered to help out a fellow xx-7
user. It was especially frustrating because I have in the past made the
effort to help others, and although I know that that doesn't require others
to help me, maybe I was hoping for some of that "treat others as you would
have them treat you" thing...

Regards,

Stu

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Sent: 09 February 2004 02:17
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [xl7] Arp bug (can't we all be friends?)


First off, I do apologize for the tone I took.  It's partly my sense of
humor (sarcasm rules!) and partly a little bit of frustration that you
were going on and on about a very slight bug.  You seemed like you were
"entitled" to having someone verify your problem.  So yes, my tone was
a bit snide.

That being said, since I don't work for E-mu any longer, I can choose
any tone I like... =)  (there's that sense of humor again)  In general,
I try and be civil.  It's that whole "treat others as you'd have them
treat you" thing.

Yes, I'd like to do a release for the XL-7, but I have more pressing
projects at the moment.  And come on, pride in my work?  Think I'd
bother posting here if I didn't?  =)

-Aaron

> |-----Original Message-----
> |From: Aaron Eppolito [mailto:synthesis77@...]
> |
> |If I were to spin a release to fix this, it would be to limit the
> |extension count to 14.  Yes, 15 does result in the same as 14, but
> |it's not like there are a whole bunch of values above 15.  Just
> |pretend 15 doesn't exist, and it works perfectly.
> |
> |-Aaron
> |
> |--- Stu <routerman@...> wrote:
> |> Despite nobody being bothered to confirm this for me, I have come
> |> to the conclusion that there is a bug in the arpeggiators.
> |> I'm really surprised that no-one has anything to say about this
> |> seeing as the arps are a pretty big part of the xx-7s.

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One more.............

i would like my XX7 to record and send NRPN messages...

Midinovela

--- midinovelarg <trabantmusic@...> wrote:
> i would like my XX7 to record and send NRPN messages...

It should do that already.  NRPN's are just controller messages (98,
99, and 6 if I remember correctly).

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on 2/9/04 1:24 PM, Stu wrote:

> I also apologise for any upset I may have caused.

cool, thanks!

> I didn't mean to sound
> like I was 'entitled' to have the the problem verified, and go on and on
> about a minor bug, I was just frustrated that, in a forum dedicated to xx-7
> users helping each other, nobody seemed bothered to help out a fellow xx-7
> user. It was especially frustrating because I have in the past made the
> effort to help others, and although I know that that doesn't require others
> to help me, maybe I was hoping for some of that "treat others as you would
> have them treat you" thing...

Stu:

with all due respect, please do consider you made your
first post asking for help on a Friday evening.

in my experience, e-mail traffic slows greatly at this
time due to the fact many people go out and get away
from the computer.

in that case, I don't think it was a case of no one
being bothered, as much as it was a case of most people
not having seen it yet, or if they had, they didn't
get around to it yet due to other activities.


cheers,
aeon

i thought that too,
but then i read in this group anybody saying that it didnt...

when i worked with er1 nrpns, xx7 recorded something, first it 
sounded ok, but when i overrided the same controler [from er1 to xx7] 
er1 started to produce some really strange sounds [try it, its nice 
anyway]so i thought its because xx7 dont understand the mesages...
so maybe the limitation is that its not possible to override nrpns?
turby



> --- midinovelarg <trabantmusic@h...> wrote:
> > i would like my XX7 to record and send NRPN messages...

Aaron Eppolito wrote:
> It should do that already.  NRPN's are just controller messages (98,
> 99, and 6 if I remember correctly).

what is a NRPN ?

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  To: xl7@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 4:31 PM
  Subject: Re: [xl7] Feature Requests


  --- midinovelarg <trabantmusic@...> wrote:
  > i would like my XX7 to record and send NRPN messages...

  It should do that already.  NRPN's are just controller messages (98,
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--- midinovelarg <trabantmusic@...> wrote:
> so maybe the limitation is that its not possible to override nrpns?

Well, the issue here is *overdubbing* controller info.  Not a good
idea.  Better is to use replace record so as not to interleave new data
with old.  Unfortunately, however, this replaces *everything*.  Sigh.

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--- sounddaddy@... wrote:
> what is a NRPN ?

Non-registered Parameter Number.  They are a combination of three
controller messages that some manufacturers (most notably Roland) use
to control less commonly used functions.  Also there are RPNs
(Registered Parameter Numbers) which are the same, but are industry
accepted (as opposed to being manufacturer specific).

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>
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>   --- midinovelarg <trabantmusic@...> wrote:
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>
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For what it's worth, I had every intention of trying to confirm this bug, 
but my studio sprung a leak over the weekend, and is now in shambles while 
we try and replace the carpetting and deal with my townhouse association 
in getting it fixed.  Not to mention most of my records were trashed as 
well....

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For what it's worth, I had every intention of trying to confirm this bug,
but my studio sprung a leak over the weekend, and is now in shambles while
we try and replace the carpetting and deal with my townhouse association
in getting it fixed.  Not to mention most of my records were trashed as
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It's all good man, we're just real protective of our Aaron, that's all. No 
hard feelings...

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Sorry to hear of your troubles. Makes me feel like an even bigger idiot 
now
tho... :/

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For what it's worth, I had every intention of trying to confirm this bug,
but my studio sprung a leak over the weekend, and is now in shambles while
we try and replace the carpetting and deal with my townhouse association
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Sorry about my Oh Boy comment as well... Ditto on the Aaron protection