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Re: going insane ..presets changing on patterns

2003-05-25 by honkeyhindu

hello everyone  ..what am i doing wrong here ..please tell me that 
this is a function that i can do 


 In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "honkeyhindu" <honkeyhindu@c...> wrote:
> What knob settings are you changing?
> controller assigment 
> k1    assigned to 74 for ch 2
> k2    assigned to 71 for ch 4
> 
> the for pattern two 
> 
> say k1 assigned to control 1  ch 4 
> whatever you get the idea ..
> 
> after i set the controller assigment i play the pattern then i save 
> the pattern and then i save the muti and then name it and then save 
> it to that name ..
> 
> i do this for the two patterns ..
> again in oder for the pattern and controller vaules to be right. 
> these are the steps that i have to take ..
> go to multi ..select the multi ..then revert the pattern 
> ..when i switch the pattern i ahve to do the same for that pattern 
as 
> well ....HOW DO I DO THIS LIVE ..i cant stop the show and start it 
up 
> again ..thanks again 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> - In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> > What knob settings are you changing?  Are they set to Volume, or 
> Quick 
> > Edit?
> > 
> > rEalm
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > honkeyhindu <honkeyhindu@c...>
> > 05/22/2003 12:30 AM
> > Please respond to xl7
> > 
> >  
> >         To:     xl7@yahoogroups.com
> >         cc: 
> >         Subject:        [xl7] Re: going insane ..presets changing 
> on patterns
> > 
> > 
> > ok .i am back with the same prb 
> > here is what i am doing 
> > write a pattern 
> > set the knobs to different controls 
> > save the pattern first..
> > the play the pattern and then save the muti ( to save the 
> controller 
> > set up )
> > save it then name it 
> > 
> > i do this for two patterns ..
> > the controller vaules being different for both patterns 
> > 
> > pattern A   multi A
> > pattern B   multi B
> > 
> > when i go from pattern A to B   the controller vaules remian the 
> same 
> > in order for me to get the right pattern with the right 
multisetup 
> is 
> > to stop play change 
> > multi then do a revert to pattern .. but how are you supposed to 
do 
> > that live ?
> > 
> > i am truly sorry that i do not understand this concept.
> > 
> > 
> > -- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> > > hmm ..i found out that it was the multisetup that was causing 
> this 
> > whole 
> > > prb .. but i still do not know why ???
> > > 
> > > >>>Well, if you load a multisetups, it loads the presets that 
> were 
> > on each 
> > > Track when you saved the Multi.  So if you save the pattern 
after 
> > loading 
> > > a Multi, it will save the Presets assigned in the Multi, not 
the 
> > ones you 
> > > saved as part of the Pattern.   Best bet, is to Revert to Saved 
> > Pattern 
> > > before you save the Pattern! <<<
> > > 
> > > i went to the emu site to check out the prb last night and 
found 
> my 
> > prb 
> > > ..but i cant understandy why emu would do this or if it just a 
> way 
> > of 
> > > thinking that i am not used to ..
> > > 
> > > >>>99% sure it's the later, no offense. :) <<
> > > 
> > > "the Multisetups channel settings will be saved to Pattern, 
> instead 
> > of the 
> > > correct values you wanted"
> > > 
> > > i do not get this at all .. why would a multiset up save a 
preset 
> > > assigment ..there is already a way to save the preset to 
> > pattern ..and it 
> > > is simple and logical ..save it to pattern ...in my head the 
> > multisetup 
> > > should contain information about the channel assigment ...like 
> what 
> > sub 
> > > groups the tracks are assigned to and the 
> > > effects percentage such that if a person wanted to have one 
> pattern 
> > start 
> > > out with one effect setting and change to another all they 
would 
> > have to 
> > > do is switch the mutisetup ..
> > > 
> > > >>>You can do what you suggest too, but Multisetups are more 
> > flexible than 
> > > that.  Say you were sequencing from an external sequencer, like 
> > Cubase, 
> > > then you wouldn't need to create a pattern (since the notes 
would 
> > be 
> > > stored in Cubase).  However, you'd still want the right sounds 
on 
> > each 
> > > track, so you could save a Multisetup to store this data.  
> There's 
> > lots 
> > > more uses for Multi's, they're not JUST to save Preset 
> assignments, 
> > though 
> > > that is a nice benefit. <<<
> > > 
> > > in my case say .i am on one of the orginal xl patterns ..and i 
> > switch the 
> > > multisetup the pattern goes all wacky ..it changes all the 
> presets 
> > in that 
> > > pattern...  how do i fix this ?? 
> > > 
> > > >>>Easy, just perform a "Revert To Saved Pattern" (Pattern Edit 
> > menu). 
> > > This will relaod the Presets that were saved with the Pattern.  
> Now 
> > resave 
> > > the Multi.  Whenever you load the Multi, it will recall the 
> Presets 
> > from 
> > > the Pattern now.  You will need to do this for each of Multi's 
> you 
> > want to 
> > > load durring a Pattern, and you will nee to do it for all 
> > Patterns.  Think 
> > > of Multi's as a snapshot of every setting within the XX-7 at 
the 
> > moment 
> > > you save it. Everytime you load a Multi, EVERYTHING will revert 
> to 
> > how the 
> > > XX-7 was when you saved the multi. <<<
> > > 
> > > "and if you save your Pattern before playing it, the 
Multisetups 
> > channel 
> > > settings will be saved to Pattern"  err why why why ??
> > > 
> > > >>>Because when you load the multisetup, it will assign the 
> Presets 
> > to 
> > > each track that were there when you saved the multi.  As far as 
> the 
> > > Pattern is concerned, it has no idea the Presets aren't what 
you 
> > want, 
> > > it's like you manually changed them one at a time as far as 
it's 
> > > concerned.  So when you save the Pattern, it will now store the 
> new 
> > > Presets, instead of the ones you had orginally saved. <<<
> > > 
> > > how is this undone ?????
> > > 
> > > >>>If you load a multi and it doesn't have the Presets you 
want, 
> > perform a 
> > > Revert to Saved. <<<
> > > 
> > > thanks again to all
> > > 
> > > >>>Let me know if I didn't explain it well enough.  Believe it 
or 
> > not, 
> > > it's a really, really flexible feature, you just need to get 
your 
> > head 
> > > around and it'll make more sense. <<<
> > > 
> > > rEalm
> > > 
> > > 
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