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A sub is for reinforcement, and good nearfields will represent the bass very
accurately up to a point.  The real problem is that anything below 80hz has such
a long wavelength that you would have to be about 15 feet back to really hear
it.  A sub can boost frequencies and you get basically a reflected version of
the wave.  That's why they have mid-field monitors (Besides making clients go
OOOHHh and Ahhhhh) so that the speaker is far enough away where they can
accurately hear the bass frequencies.  Basically it's nice, but it won't help
your mixes any especially if you don't really use any sub-bass.  Another reason
that you might want to get a sub is that the venting on a cabinet has a certain
resonance frequency, where the bass response causes resonance and you get
boosted bass for that frequency range.  Usually it's at a very low frequency
range, however sometimes it's noticable.  A sub cabinet has a different design
so you won't experience that.  Same thing with fully enclosed near field
monitors, since they have no venting.

Hope that didn't get too confusing,
Andre

-----Original Message-----
From: drj0 [mailto:drj0@...]
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 12:25 PM
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [xl7] Re: Good monitors


What about a SUB?  Do I NEED a sub if i'm producing dance music?   I
had one before and it sounded sweet in my studio.  However, it made
me go pretty easy on the bass...

--- In xl7@y..., "Andre Lewis" <andrel@s...> wrote:
> RE: [xl7] Good monitorsHome stereo speakers are sweetened, they
are designed
> specifically to flatter most types of content, especially lower
midrange and
> vocal areas.  They are not good for finding out your looppoints
suck, or
> that you have a gnat sound happening in the chorus.  IMHO the
ratings as far
> as pro near field are in this order from decent to best:  Yamaha
NS10v2,
> Event 20/20, Alesis monitor 1 Mk 2, KRK V8,  Mackie HR824, JBL
LSR28p,
> Genelec 1031A.  The Yamaha's are used to see what it will sound
like in a
> worst case scenario, like a cheap radio.  Make it sound good on
those and
> you should be fine.  Backup speakers only.  The JBL's and the
Genelec's are
> close, many producers are down as saying they make better mixes
with the
> JBL's.  That's my next purchase.  I've heard em and they are dead
accurate.
> The mackies are a direct knockoff of the Genelecs, but not as high
of
> quality.  Much better than anything else under a grand though.
Best
> suggestion is to take a CD that you are intimate with, listen to
it in the
> home stereo then the car and then on a bunch of monitors at a GC
or your
> local music shop.  Compare how the different monitors change the
sound.
> Look for good stereo imaging and be carefull if it sounds TOO
sweet on a set
> of monitors.  Listen for bass response and keep an ear out to see
if the
> bass gets really boomy at a particular frequency.  You should look
at
> www.sospubs.co.uk and do a search on monitor articles, they have
many on the
> art of getting a good nearfield monitor, and what to listen for.
I'll stop
> rambling now,
> Andre
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: John Royle [mailto:jroyle@t...]
>   Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:01 AM
>   To: xl7@y...
>   Subject: RE: [xl7] Good monitors
>
>
>   Just out of interest, does anybody know what the difference (if
any) is
> between Monitors and just regular HIFI speakers.  I mean, if you
buy some
> monitors for \ufffd500 and some normal speakers for \ufffd500 what would you
expect to
> find different between them??
>
>   I've heard some people say that monitors are supposed to have
a 'neutral'
> sound, ie. without too much mid, bass, or treble, but surely HIFI
speakers
> should sound like this anyway??
>
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: "drj0" <drj0@y...>
>   To: <xl7@y...>
>   Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 10:48 AM
>   Subject: [xl7] Good monitors
>
>
>
>   > I'm looking to get some good monitors for my setup.  I've been
using
>   > crappy stuff for a long time.  While I'd really like to get a
pair
>   > of Mackies or Event's, I won't be able to afford it.
>   >
>   >
>   > What do you all think?  M-Audio's seem pretty good.  They
say "this
>   > is the most important part of your studio setup."  And I've
been
>   > slackin for a long time.
>   >
>   >
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