Depending on whether you must have multisamples or not, the announced FantomX rack module plus the XX-7 may be a perfect combination of Emu sequencing and finesse coupled with the sound capabilities of the mc-909/fantom and a pretty huge sampler all in one rack space with new support and new things like usb, etc.
Ravi
----- Original Message -----
From: Stu
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 7:35 PM
Subject: RE: [xl7] Re: XL 7 vs MC 909
If you're looking for a sampler/sequencer for studio work, then you can't go
wrong with an xx-7 and some sort of rackmounted sampler like an E-MU Ultra
(going cheap these days) or Akai Z series, or maybe even a softsampler. The
new E-MU Emulator X gives you everything their hardware samplers do and then
some, and if you already have a fast PC, the cost of an xx-7 and Emulator X
is going to be less than an MC-909. Also take into account that with the
Emulator X, you could have an EQ and compressor on EACH channel!!
I've looked at varous tabletop samplers myself, but my xx-7 and E-MU Ultra
combo beats them all hands down, except for the fact that it's not quite as
portable.
Just my tuppence worth,
Stu
-----Original Message-----
From: bluetechnics [mailto:ksellers88@...]
Sent: 10 February 2004 23:16
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [xl7] Re: XL 7 vs MC 909
Thanks a lot for the extended reply. Since I would use the MC909 mainly
for studio work, the portability and live performance factors are not
a big issue for me. I really like the on board sampling and the
turntable pitch slider. I guess the main thing that's keeping me from
getting one is the polyphony issue. I wonder if 64 voices will be enough?
I emailed Roger S since he produced some patterns for the MC909 to see
how he feels about the 64 voice polyphony. Thanks again.
--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> Yes that is a dumb question, haha. :) Let's put it this way. I
used to
> be huge fan of the mc505 (long before the XX-7's were a twinkle in
Emu's
> eye), and I still think it's a really nice machine. I had the
chance to
> ditch the XL-7 and go with a Mc909 when they came out, but I didn't for
> the following reasons:
>
> - Limited polyphony. Yeah, 64 voices isn't bad, but I knew I'd eat
them
> up in a heartbeat once I started layering my presets. Plus, the XV
ROMs
> can use stereo waveforms, which eat up two voices each. So a single
note
> with 4 layers would eat up 8 voices, ouch!
> - No megamix. This is Roland's equivelant of XMIX (to be fair, XMIX is
> actually Emu's interpretation on Megamix) and it's a godsend as far
as I'm
> concerned for live use. You could play hours of songs live without
having
> to stop the set to select a new track or Pattern. Opens up all
kinds of
> creative possibilities.
> - Size. The mc909 is a real beast, very large and not as easily
portable
> as the XX-7's. There's nothing like heading down to the park to
make some
> music outside to spur on some inspiration.
>
> I had to confront this choice again very recently when I won the
PX-7. I
> was given the option of putting that credit towards a mc909 or
> MPC2000/4000 if I wanted. I'll admit, I did think about it for quite a
> bit too. Why? Onboard sampling. It's a big deal for people like
me who
> have a lot of custom samples they want to use, or who might want to
take
> their studio creations live. It would save me the (ongoing) trouble of
> trying to find a sampler to complement my XL-7.
>
> Eventually though, I knew that if I got a mc909 and left the group,
no one
> here would be able to pick a ROM for themselves, or know how to use
effect
> sends, so I decided I better stay for your sake.
>
> J/K!
>
> Actually I've gotten to really enjoy using the XX-7, it's fast and dead
> easy to program, sounds great, and is far better for me live. Plus, it
> just feels like an "instrument" when I play it. I don't feel like I'm
> programming a computer, or sequencing at all. The lines between
Pattern
> and Preset creations totally blur for me, and I'm just making cool
sounds
> I can play back for others. Something that not much other gear
nowadays
> makes me feel like....
>
> rEalm
>
>
>
>
>
>
> bluetechnics <ksellers88@h...>
> 02/10/2004 01:29 PM
> Please respond to xl7
>
>
> To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> cc:
> Subject: [xl7] Re: XL 7 vs MC 909
>
>
> Thanks for the input fellas. Given the pros and cons of each unit,
> which would you ultimately choose (is this a dumb question considering
> this is an XX-7 group?)
>
>
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> > Whew, that's quite task! (Obviously we prefer the XX-7's too)
> Here's some
> > things in short:
> >
> > MC909 has 64 voices of polyphony, XX-7 has 128.
> > MC909 has a master effect compressor, and IMO better effects overall.
> > XX-7 has XMIX, 909 lost the Megamix that the 505 had.
> > MC909 has only one expansion slot for additional sounds (I think
> it's 1),
> > the XX-7 has 3.
> >
> > If Ravi reads this, he can probably add more, as I think he still has
> > both...
> > rEalm
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Other than the fact that the XL7 can't sample, has anyone compared the
> > pros and cons of the XL7 vs MC909? Has anyone worked with these units
> > and which do you prefer?
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Re: [xl7] Re: XL 7 vs MC 909
2004-02-11 by Ravi Ivan Sharma