Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

Thanks for the input! I'm not always looking for real sounding drums 
either but for the rhythms I make with them to sound organic... It 
seems to me that of all the "gifts" that god gave me programming 
drums with midi is not one of them! :) I can play everything else but 
drums...

BTW, I use ableton too but on a desktop computer... I'm planning to 
use my ESI to take over those samples when I play live. What kind of 
drum loops do you use? I like Ableton for loops I already tweak 
elsewhere to my liking... These days I'm so busy with work that I 
can't spend too much time listening to cds to get my drums, which is 
a shame 'cause it's mad cool to spend a day just doing that...:( 
That's why I want to get something that could help make drum 
faster/easier... without drums I cant get everything else going... I 
haven't done much in a while.

thanks again...


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, mark sottilaro <zerocrossing2001@y...> 
wrote:
> I agree with Realm.  You are comparing two vastly
> different devices, but that could be a good thing.  To
> be honest, I'd get the Stylus.  Why?  You already have
> a ROM based sequencer (The Command Station of some
> flavor)  Sure a lot of sounds are nice to have, but
> I'm finding that syncing the XL-7 to a laptop running
> loops in Ableton's live to be really useful.  No
> matter how good you program your sequencer, because
> it's a ROM based device you're not going to get
> that... SOUND.  You know.  Of a real drummer.  Guys
> like Realm don't care, as that's not really what
> they're going for.  My friend Rick Walker (a
> drummer/purcussionist) says this, "I love my drum
> machine, but I do my best to make it sound like an
> appliance."  I totally know what he's saying.  I like
> to emphisize that the XL-7 is a machine, but then
> juxtapose that with loops of live drums in Ableton's
> Live.  The combo is very sweet.
> 
> Mark Sottilaro
>   
> --- sincultura13 <sincultura13@y...> wrote:
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> > > Hmm, well you're comparing vastly different
> > things, but I can see 
> > your 
> > > point with them being the same price.  Here's my
> > take on it:
> > > 
> > > - Stylus. The big attraction here is the sheer
> > quantity of samples 
> > you 
> > > get, over 3GB if I remember correctly.  Most of
> > them are very good 
> > for 
> > > sure, Eric Pershing is an ace sound designer.  The
> > downside is that 
> > you're 
> > > more or less stuck with using the loops as is
> > (minus the synth 
> > section) 
> > > unless you export them as audio files and then
> > slice and dice 
> > them.  Also, 
> > > in order to use them, you need run the plug in
> > from with in a 
> > computer 
> > > sequencer, so partability's out.
> > > 
> > > - Protean Drum ROM.  While you don't get anywhere
> > near the amount 
> > of 
> > > samples as with Stylus (only 32MB), you do get
> > nice and easy 
> > intregration 
> > > with the XX-7, and quality acoustic drum samples. 
> > So it's easy to 
> > just 
> > > fire up the box and get working right away.  Not
> > to mention you 
> > won't be 
> > > tied into the computer either, which may or may
> > not be an issue for 
> > you.
> > > 
> > > Personally, I think it all somes down to the way
> > you're more 
> > comfortable 
> > > working.  If you typically work in the PC and
> > prefer that way or 
> > working, 
> > > then Stylus may be the better choice.  However if
> > you like working 
> > on 
> > > hardware more, than I would say the Drum ROM would
> > be a better 
> > choice.
> > > 
> > > rEalm
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I just came across this plug called stylus that
> > comes with 3 gigs 
> > of 
> > > drum loops/sounds (mostly breakbeats/hiphop kinda
> > sounds which 
> > suites 
> > > me just fine but also precussion loops and what
> > not....) and a 
> > groove 
> > > control feature that lets you freely rearrange and
> > strech loops 
> > > without sound degradetion... The price is about
> > the same as Emu's 
> > > drum rom. I was almost sold on the idea of the
> > drum rom but this 
> > > Stylus plugs sounds tempting too....
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Is anyone willing to give pros/cons for each of
> > the options? 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > thanks in advance.
> > > 
> > > 
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