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Re: Apology to the 1200 series fans

Re: Apology to the 1200 series fans

2007-07-03 by drmabuce

Hi phil

--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, ph@... wrote:
> 
> I know, that's why I said to ignore my original message. 

your second thought appeared before your first!
When i saw this, i cringed on your behalf...
As a frequent poster on this group, myself, i'm sympathetic about
this. It happens to me sometimes too and sentiments out of sequence
can REALLY mess up the expression of one's intentions. 
This is an endemic drawback to the Yahoo group forums. The posting is
not a FIFO queue, and it's subject to a long list of vagaries within
Yahoo's server-tangle.  Sheriff Mike (our generous moderator) has no
control over this either. Even if he set the queue wide-open, the
posting sequence would still be haphazard. i know this because it
happens in some other yahoo groups to which subscribe that are
completely unmoderated.

-lord knows MY ears have been red with embarrassment a few times while
staring, dumbfounded at the cheerful "Message POSTED!!!" notice. Itchy
trigger fingers go with the territory on web forums.
(That's why, at least in my case,  it's a very GOOD thing Mike is
diligently on the job!)

-doc

Re: [wiardgroup] Re: Apology to the 1200 series fans

2007-07-03 by ph@comcast.net

I would add at this point that grant's personal business style and outstanding support is unlike anything else out there in the world of cutting edge instruments, and to know that he continues to attempt the unattempted certainly seems worth the extra bit of dough. If you want budget there's lots to choose from. If you want art, please pay like you want an artist to make it without complaining.

Considering that, we're all lucky to get a chance to use these creatively developed tools, it really could cost more...

"stuff" vs. investments...

PS - I'm not knocking Plan B or any other of the great modular stuff I am grateful to have the chance to play with, I'm a big fan of pretty much all of it! And AH has been a great resource and hands down the friendliest music store I've ever dealt with. But I do think we've got a special deal here with Wiard and should appreciate it as such. Eh... just refer to past messages for Grant's perspective on the topic, which is much more practical than that.





On Jul 2, 2007, at 7:04 PM, Tommy DOG wrote:

--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "p. hendricks" wrote:
>
> I'm confused. Example: Plan B starting selling, then through AH,
but their
> prices didn't change but in about the same time, the Wiard ones have
doubled
> or more in many cases.
>
> That's all fine, but your demographic as changed, considerably. not
as many
> experimental musicians in the new range.
>

If one is doing experimental music, one is likely to devolop other
skills that will pay the rent such as soun design and production.

Also I have to point out that the cost of bleeding edge and unusual
instruments is generally higher because the amount of people who use
these things is smaller, therefore the overhead for the builder may be
higher.

As it is modular synths are a speciality item and the higher end ones
are just not goning to attract people who aren't dedicated to learning
and devoloping a long term relationship with their instrumnets.

I am willing to bet that even a company like Doepfer sells vastly
smaller amounts of their more exotic modules.

TD


Re: [wiardgroup] Re: Apology to the 1200 series fans

2007-07-04 by kwote uno

yeah i'm new to the whole yahoo groups setup. it ain't bad but i'm used to the whole typical message board setup. i think it'd be cool if wiard added a forum like that to the wiard site.
i'm pretty sure it's free and it seems the board would easily get traffic as i get wiard yahoo emails everyday.


On 7/3/07, drmabuce <drmabuce@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi phil

--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, ph@... wrote:
>
> I know, that's why I said to ignore my original message.

your second thought appeared before your first!
When i saw this, i cringed on your behalf...
As a frequent poster on this group, myself, i'm sympathetic about
this. It happens to me sometimes too and sentiments out of sequence
can REALLY mess up the expression of one's intentions.
This is an endemic drawback to the Yahoo group forums. The posting is
not a FIFO queue, and it's subject to a long list of vagaries within
Yahoo's server-tangle. Sheriff Mike (our generous moderator) has no
control over this either. Even if he set the queue wide-open, the
posting sequence would still be haphazard. i know this because it
happens in some other yahoo groups to which subscribe that are
completely unmoderated.

-lord knows MY ears have been red with embarrassment a few times while
staring, dumbfounded at the cheerful "Message POSTED!!!" notice. Itchy
trigger fingers go with the territory on web forums.
(That's why, at least in my case, it's a very GOOD thing Mike is
diligently on the job!)

-doc


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