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In the last couple of weeks I've come across pictures of a single 300 module mounted into a 
double Frac Rack (like 2 Blacet ones). Technically it can be done because a 300 Series module 
is the size of two 1200 series sitting on top of eachother length-wise. I dont know whose 
system this was so I'm just going to ask the group if they have any ideas or methods for 
mounting a single 300 series module into a Frac set-up.
Regards,
John

I was thinking of trying to use these big tin snips I have on the part
of the rack I want the 300 to go in. I guess if that doesn¹t work then I¹ll
have to use a hacksaw.
    So Grant was there? When I asked him on the telephone he said he didn¹t
know how it was done. That naughty Grant.

    regards,
    John

On 11/18/06 12:35 AM, "Sam Ecoff" <secoff@execpc.com> wrote:

> 
> On Nov 17, 2006, at 4:06 PM, j_inform3r wrote:
> 
>> In the last couple of weeks I've come across pictures of a single 300 module
>> mounted into a 
>> double Frac Rack (like 2 Blacet ones). Technically it can be done because a
>> 300 Series module 
>> is the size of two 1200 series sitting on top of eachother length-wise. I
>> dont know whose 
>> system this was so I'm just going to ask the group if they have any ideas or
>> methods for 
>> mounting a single 300 series module into a Frac set-up.
>> Regards,
>> John
> 
> I do know whose synth it is, but I don't know if he's a member here. What I
> will reveal is that this was achieved by actually hacksawing through the rails
> of a frack rack, in Grant's presence, no less. While I've not seen it in
> person, I would guess that the panel of the module would mostly make up for
> the loss of structural integrity caused by copping the frack rack. Personally,
> I think it would be worth adding a nice wooden enclosure for the one
> module... 
> 
> My $0.02.
> 
> Sam E.
>  
> _______________________________
> Sam Ecoff
> Secret Society Productions
> 5307 S. 92nd St. Suite 105
> Hales Corners, WI 53130
> (414) 427-0615
> www.samecoff.com
> 
>  
> 
>

>     I was thinking of trying to use these big tin snips I have on the part
> of the rack I want the 300 to go in. I guess if that doesn¹t work then I¹ll
> have to use a hacksaw.



i would advise against the snips.  go for the saw

too funny...I haven't checked this group in awhile, and i jump in
tonight, and i think folks are talking about my tiny modular--if its
the photo with the krazy kat and bikini space girls faceplates. 

re: Grant was there...hmm, i thought he was, but i could be wrong.
when i ordered the Wogglebug, I had two partially filled frac-racks.
when i figured out how big the 300 modules were, I hacksawed that
space in front and held the whole works together with a 1.5" wide
chunk of aluminum (the 2 CGS psycho LFOs in pseudo-Wiard faceplate) in
preparation for the arrival of the wogglebug. on the big day, Grant
shows up at my apartment and i thought i'd be all slick and just slide
the WB in the hole in the racks, but i hadn't taken into acct that
it'd be quite a bit deeper than a fracrack. oops.

now, i *thought* that I hacksawed a hole in the back of the racks
right then and there, but then again, the old memory ain't what she
used to be. maybe i waited til Grant left. maybe i've just told that
story that way so many times that now that's how i remember it. 

either way, that was a pretty good day. acquiring what is still the
jewel of my current modular and getting to hang out with the good Dr.
Richter in person.

best,
dan

> >     So Grant was there? When I asked him on the telephone he said  
> > he didn't know how it was done. That naughty Grant.
> >
> >     regards,
> >     John
> 
> I can't attest to the fact that Grant was there. I was just told that  
> he was there. File this under who knows/who cares.

Great story Dan! So the back of the Frac needs to be cut too? Wooo! Sounds like a job! :) 
BTW, how did you do the Psycho LFO panel? Is it Schaeffer? Can you PLEASE send me the 
file?
Thanks,
John

--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "schierld" <bcolbeck@...> wrote:

>
> too funny...I haven't checked this group in awhile, and i jump in
> tonight, and i think folks are talking about my tiny modular--if its
> the photo with the krazy kat and bikini space girls faceplates. 
> 
> re: Grant was there...hmm, i thought he was, but i could be wrong.
> when i ordered the Wogglebug, I had two partially filled frac-racks.
> when i figured out how big the 300 modules were, I hacksawed that
> space in front and held the whole works together with a 1.5" wide
> chunk of aluminum (the 2 CGS psycho LFOs in pseudo-Wiard faceplate) in
> preparation for the arrival of the wogglebug. on the big day, Grant
> shows up at my apartment and i thought i'd be all slick and just slide
> the WB in the hole in the racks, but i hadn't taken into acct that
> it'd be quite a bit deeper than a fracrack. oops.
> 
> now, i *thought* that I hacksawed a hole in the back of the racks
> right then and there, but then again, the old memory ain't what she
> used to be. maybe i waited til Grant left. maybe i've just told that
> story that way so many times that now that's how i remember it. 
> 
> either way, that was a pretty good day. acquiring what is still the
> jewel of my current modular and getting to hang out with the good Dr.
> Richter in person.
> 
> best,
> dan
> 
> > >     So Grant was there? When I asked him on the telephone he said  
> > > he didn't know how it was done. That naughty Grant.
> > >
> > >     regards,
> > >     John
> > 
> > I can't attest to the fact that Grant was there. I was just told that  
> > he was there. File this under who knows/who cares.
>

John--thanks! i just took a look at the back of that modular...yeah,
the 300 series modules would extend, oh, about 3.5" past the back of
the fracracks. 

re: panel: actually, most of my faceplates are printed w/ a color
laserprinter, laminated, and stuck onto the aluminum panel with
double-sided tape. this works, and looks much better than it probably
should...cheap but functional (dan=college student) (the imagery is
just a photoshopped version of the scan of the wogglebug faceplate
from the Wiard site. don't tell Grant, tho).

best,
dan  

> Great story Dan! So the back of the Frac needs to be cut too? Wooo!
Sounds like a job! :) 
> BTW, how did you do the Psycho LFO panel? Is it Schaeffer? Can you
PLEASE send me the 

> file?
> Thanks,
> John
> 
> --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "schierld" <bcolbeck@> wrote:
> >
> > too funny...I haven't checked this group in awhile, and i jump in
> > tonight, and i think folks are talking about my tiny modular--if its
> > the photo with the krazy kat and bikini space girls faceplates. 
> > 
> > re: Grant was there...hmm, i thought he was, but i could be wrong.
> > when i ordered the Wogglebug, I had two partially filled frac-racks.
> > when i figured out how big the 300 modules were, I hacksawed that
> > space in front and held the whole works together with a 1.5" wide
> > chunk of aluminum (the 2 CGS psycho LFOs in pseudo-Wiard faceplate) in
> > preparation for the arrival of the wogglebug. on the big day, Grant
> > shows up at my apartment and i thought i'd be all slick and just slide
> > the WB in the hole in the racks, but i hadn't taken into acct that
> > it'd be quite a bit deeper than a fracrack. oops.
> > 
> > now, i *thought* that I hacksawed a hole in the back of the racks
> > right then and there, but then again, the old memory ain't what she
> > used to be. maybe i waited til Grant left. maybe i've just told that
> > story that way so many times that now that's how i remember it. 
> > 
> > either way, that was a pretty good day. acquiring what is still the
> > jewel of my current modular and getting to hang out with the good Dr.
> > Richter in person.
> > 
> > best,
> > dan

The system is owned by Dan Schierl. I have seen it, I play in ESVC with Dan, but I was not 
there when he modded the Frac-Rac to fit the Woggle Bug.

It looks like a LOT of work. The Frac-Racs are only 6 inches deep and the 300 series is 9 
inches deep, so the back of the Frac-Rac has to be removed also.

DO NOT mod the 300 series module. They are designed really tight and rely on the 
aluminum enclosure for shielding and mechanical strength.

--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, Sam Ecoff <secoff@...> wrote:

>
> 
> On Nov 18, 2006, at 9:38 AM, John wrote:
> 
> >    I was thinking of trying to use these big tin snips I have on  
> > the part of the rack I want the 300 to go in. I guess if that  
> > doesn't work then I'll have to use a hacksaw.
> >     So Grant was there? When I asked him on the telephone he said  
> > he didn't know how it was done. That naughty Grant.
> >
> >     regards,
> >     John
> 
> I can't attest to the fact that Grant was there. I was just told that  
> he was there. File this under who knows/who cares.
> 
> :-)
> 
> Sam E.
> _______________________________
> Sam Ecoff
> Secret Society Productions
> 5307 S. 92nd St. Suite 105
> Hales Corners, WI 53130
> (414) 427-0615
> www.samecoff.com
>

This is similar to putting a Chevy small block into an old VW Bug....

My personal issue with DIY is that, years later, one must face one's
own idea of being 'clever' - and then fix it....  I still have a few
items in my studio that require this attention, searching the net
every day for some way out...  (Actually, my big Wiard system is my
solution to my DIY whoas with my old 9 panel Serge... - now I have
Grant to chat with when something bizarre happens, such as lightning
knocking out several devices in my system a few years ago, including
my Wiard.  An interesting note - the lightning blew out the regulators
on ALL of the PSUs, and the 300 Series VCOs STILL TRACKED!!!)

Yes, IMHO, produced modules vs. DIY - Grant vs. my own instincts.... 
A priceless choice, that has allowed me to make more music, and solder
less (although the PSIM has kept me up at night breathing in those
lead fumes...)!

Gary

  

"Grant Richter" <grichter@...> wrote:
>
> The system is owned by Dan Schierl. I have seen it, I play in ESVC
with Dan, but I was not 
> there when he modded the Frac-Rac to fit the Woggle Bug.
> 
> It looks like a LOT of work. The Frac-Racs are only 6 inches deep
and the 300 series is 9 
> inches deep, so the back of the Frac-Rac has to be removed also.
> 
> DO NOT mod the 300 series module. They are designed really tight and
rely on the 
> aluminum enclosure for shielding and mechanical strength.
> 
> --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, Sam Ecoff <secoff@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > On Nov 18, 2006, at 9:38 AM, John wrote:
> > 
> > >    I was thinking of trying to use these big tin snips I have on  
> > > the part of the rack I want the 300 to go in. I guess if that  
> > > doesn't work then I'll have to use a hacksaw.
> > >     So Grant was there? When I asked him on the telephone he said  
> > > he didn't know how it was done. That naughty Grant.
> > >
> > >     regards,
> > >     John
> > 
> > I can't attest to the fact that Grant was there. I was just told
that  

> > he was there. File this under who knows/who cares.
> > 
> > :-)
> > 
> > Sam E.
> > _______________________________
> > Sam Ecoff
> > Secret Society Productions
> > 5307 S. 92nd St. Suite 105
> > Hales Corners, WI 53130
> > (414) 427-0615
> > www.samecoff.com
> >
>

> Grant to chat with when something bizarre happens, such as lightning
> knocking out several devices in my system a few years ago, including
> my Wiard.  An interesting note - the lightning blew out the regulators
> on ALL of the PSUs, and the 300 Series VCOs STILL TRACKED!!!)
> 

To tell the truth, I was pretty amazed myself that the VCOs were in tune and stable running 
on unregulated plus and minus 18.5 volts. The reason we noticed was because the low end 
tuning went up a bit and Gary was wondering why he could no longer hit the really low notes.

In the course of tracing the problem, we discovered the blown out supplies. Yikes...