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> BTW, Harry Shearer had once mentioned on his radio show, that The Monkees had
> the first rock record use of a Moog -- this can't be literally true, but I
> did (do) wonder when "they" used one.

Had to look that one up. The song was Daily/Nightly.
Recorded June 19,1967. A video clip was also made
and originally aired January 8, 1968.
I can still remember the video, pretty cool actually.
I think Dolenz was playing an early Moog system IIIp.
Or at least I think there were 3 portable cabinets. I
was only 10 at the time. It left a lasting impression on
me though. "Psychedelic"
Terry

At 01:02 AM 04/26/2000 -0400, "T.J." <goku@...> wrote:
>> BTW, Harry Shearer had once mentioned on his radio show, that The
Monkees had
>> the first rock record use of a Moog -- this can't be literally true, but I
>> did (do) wonder when "they" used one.
>
>Had to look that one up. The song was Daily/Nightly.
>Recorded June 19,1967. A video clip was also made
>and originally aired January 8, 1968.

The song is on their fourth album, 'Pisces Aquarius Capricorn & Jones,
ltd.'.  The album also includes the song "Star Collector" which has Paul
Beaver playing the Moog (in a more "musicianly" manner - I actually prefer
Dolenz's "amateur-twisting-knobs" performance on "Daily Nightly").  I'm not
sure which of the two songs was recorded first.

To the best of my knowledge, that *is* the first usage of any
commercially-manufactured (Moog or otherwise) synthesizer on a pop/rock
record.  The 50 Foot Hose album was recorded around the same time, but that
was all homemade electronics (as were the electronics used by the United
States of America, Silver Apples, etc.).

	-Doug
	 ceres@...

>I can still remember the video, pretty cool actually.
>I think Dolenz was playing an early Moog system IIIp.
>Or at least I think there were 3 portable cabinets. I
>was only 10 at the time. It left a lasting impression on
>me though. "Psychedelic"

In a message dated 00-04-26 14:48:47 EDT, you write:

<< To the best of my knowledge, that *is* the first usage of any
 commercially-manufactured (Moog or otherwise) synthesizer on a pop/rock
 record.  >>



doug,
what about "zodiac cosmic sounds" ( correct title ? ) with mort garson - ? 
i`ve seen that credited several places including an interview with bob moog 
if my memory serves me correctly as being the first pop album to use a 
synthesizer.  ?????
 anybody know for sure, if only for historical accuracy ??????
best,
dave v.

In a message dated 4/26/2000 7:06:45 PM, davevosh@... writes:
>what about "zodiac cosmic sounds" ( correct title ? ) with mort garson
>- ? 
>i`ve seen that credited several places including an interview with bob
>moog 
>if my memory serves me correctly as being the first pop album to use a
>synthesizer.  ?????
> anybody know for sure, if only for historical accuracy ??????

Well, Moog definitely mentioned (on the Fresh Aire interview a couple of 
months ago) it as being the first use of the Moog on the West coast. I don't 
remember hearing it (if I did it was only once), but the way Moog and my old 
EM instructor described the album, it might be more appropriately described 
as the first comedic use of the Moog synthesizer. Another way to look at it 
is, how do you describe a "pop album," does popularity enter into it?

John (I clearly listen to the radio too much) Barlow

In a message dated 00-04-26 22:59:53 EDT, you write:

<<  but the way Moog and my old 
 EM instructor described the album, it might be more appropriately described 
 as the first comedic use of the Moog synthesizer. Another way to look at it 
 is, how do you describe a "pop album," does popularity enter into it? >>



john,
i`ve never heard the album myself, just read about it. mort garson interview 
in polyphony and assorted moog references, for example i quote synapse, 
may/june 1977 : " this is 1967 now. i could show you the first lp using a 
moog synthesizer. it`s one of the funniest things you`ll ever want to hear. 
that was 1967."   question : "which album was that?"  moog : "it`s called 
"zodiac cosmic sounds."
-
i always took the term "funniest" to mean in terms of the sounds as being 
"cheesy" or "dated" as opposed to "comedic". 
-
it was good to see moog credit guys like ussachevsky and schaeffer for things 
like the adsr and vcf. the initial reference in the interview left me 
wondering but he did get to it later.  also, the somewhat unkind reference to 
david luce somewhat surprised me as in the same synapse interview, he spoke 
more favorably about luce and the polymoog. likewise in an interview in 
electronotes, if i recall correctly. i`ve got an old j.a.e.s. from 1964 which 
has an article by luce ( and others) about instrument timbre`s and analysis ( 
and a really great article by gordon mumma on building a personal electronic 
music studio - a fantastic piece ! ) and if i recall correctly, it was some 
of luce`s research that pointed the way to the usefulness of variable slope 
vcf`s. so, while i could easily be wrong, i always presumed luce to be a 
learned and serious type who had contributed to the (then) state of the art.
also, was it me, or did they completely skip over moog`s work with kurzweil ? 
or big briars being ( at one time ) the importer / distributor of synton 
modular synths in the post - moog music days ?
best,
dave v.