MOTM

> Is there a way to have my MTOM-900 rebuilt this way?  If not, I'll keep it
> and plan to use it in the rear of my future cabinet for powering more
modules.

Not easily.

>
> Also, are there longer power bundles for when we have modules pretty far
> from the power supply?

30 inch ones are in the PDF catalog.

>
> More thoughts:
>
> 1.  Can the power supply be made 2 units wide instead of 3?  The PS could
> be rotated 90 degrees to have a smaller footprint on the panel, then the
> connector board could be put on a plate mounted to the PS or to the new
> enclosure so that the connector board would not occupy any panel footprint
> area.  Yes rotating the PS will make it a deeper unit, but I see no reason
> to limit MOTM module depth to what we have so far.  None of our cabinets
> will be smaller than a foot in depth I would imagine.

No, because the MOTM form factor was designed *specifically* to go into a
SKB pop-up mixer case.
Why? Because the Fenix did NOT fit in one, caused *many* lost sales.


> 2.  Can we have a cool red indicator light (or LED) added by the power
switch?

Knock yourself out.
drill a hole, buy a Lumex LED from Digikey and a 2.2K resistor.


> 4.  There could be an outlet on both the front and back of the module, and
> a rubber or plastic cover could be placed over the unused outlet.


Complicates the wiring. This is supposed to be the easy kit :)

> 5.  Can we have a little voice chip activated at power-on say something
> cool or funny through a little internal speaker?   Example:  "Paul
> Schreiber Rocks!"  "MOTHER!" "MAMA" "Kewl" or maybe just a cool sound
> effect.  Just brainstorming as usual.

Mine does this all by itself.

Paul S.



>

Paul, I know this complicates your life, but is there any chance you could
continue to offer the 900 power supply (maybe 901 with new 16-point breakout
board) and still offer a new, rear-cord design with slimmer front panel for
cabinet folks (902, 910, whatever)? 

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	Paul & Alleyne [mailto:vulture.squadron@...] 
Sent:	Wednesday, 12 April, 2000 4:50 AM
To:	motm@egroups.com
Subject:	Re: [motm] Rear-facing cord?  

From: Paul Schreiber <synth1@...>


>I am thinking about enclosing the power supply, and moving the AC inlet to
>the rear. The
>connector board may also 'grow' from 12 to 16 connectors. Thoughts?



hello all,

moving the ac line to the rear of the power unit might cause a problem for
those of us who mount our power unit on the rear anyway
an enclosure would be a welcome addition i suppose for us Euro types
on a small SKB based modular a front mounted supply / rear facing cord is
the only sensible option - apart from...   ...external PSU with +/-15v cord
to a 1u panel with the distro board mounted behind it

while we're on the subject of PSUs - does this mean the stock of old
supplies is running out..? cos i'm about three modules away from the end of
my first cabinet - and new cabinet means new supply (reply to this bit
privately paul, as might might conjoure up a bit of an order on the side...)

cheers
paul b



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>>>> None of our cabinets will be smaller than a foot in depth I would
imagine.

I wouldn't make this assumption. My design is to make my cabinets 8" deep,
maybe even 7.5". From that, subtract 1/4" from the front for a small
recession.

Wow. I dared sleep last night, and look at all this new e-mail!

Rear-facing PSU does not work for those who use their SKB pop-up mixer cases
in the "closed" position, like me. So please keep some of the other ones
around if you're going to do that. If I were to build a wooden case, I was
planning on mounting the module in the rear anyway, and just reaching around
back to turn it on (as I do with much of my other gear). Is there a problem
with this I haven't anticipated?

I'm not sure which conversation you're talking about when you mention the
MOTM-logo blanks, Paul. I'm afraid it was one of my suggestions, but that
isn't what I was suggesting. I was brainstorming a way to cover the backs of
the modules when they're exposed--i.e. when a pop-up mixer case is in the
"open" position, the backs of the modules are exposed. So I had suggested a
panel that is approx. 19" wide, with side wings. From above, it would look
like this (monospace your e-mail to see correctly):

_!_                                _!_
  |                               |
  |                               |
  |                               |
  |                               |
  _________________________________

The exclamation points are where the screws would go in from the front. You
could put some sort of nut on the back to catch it. Basically, you would be
able to mount this over the backs of modules to protect them. I threw out
the idea that you could screenprint MOTM or Synthesis Technology on the back
of the top one for those who don't put black tape over their Roland logos
when they play out ;)

I would NOT purchase front-panel blanks with any kind of logo on them. I
don't need to advertise to myself--I wanted to advertise to the glow-stick
kids ;)

Aw hell, I just mocked something up and attached it. This is what I meant
all along. Please look at it.

Given the requirement to fit in an SKB case, the PSU can't be rotated.  Yet 
the connector board could be removed from the front panel and mounted on 
the side of the enclosure.  This would get it down to a two-space 
module.  It assumes the enclosure were not too wide.  There is room to 
place the switch to the side of the PSU still.  The outlet would have to be 
on the back of the enclosure this way, since it would no longer have room 
on the front panel.  I prefer it there anyway.  I would prefer turning on 
the MOTM from the front and having the power cord coming out the back.

Fred

At 07:46 AM 4/12/00 -0500, Paul wrote:

> > 1.  Can the power supply be made 2 units wide instead of 3?  The PS could
> > be rotated 90 degrees to have a smaller footprint on the panel, then the
> > connector board could be put on a plate mounted to the PS or to the new
> > enclosure so that the connector board would not occupy any panel footprint
> > area.  Yes rotating the PS will make it a deeper unit, but I see no reason
> > to limit MOTM module depth to what we have so far.  None of our cabinets
> > will be smaller than a foot in depth I would imagine.
>
>No, because the MOTM form factor was designed *specifically* to go into a
>SKB pop-up mixer case.
>Why? Because the Fenix did NOT fit in one, caused *many* lost sales.

> From: Fred Becker [mailto:mach25@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 7:08 PM
> To: motm@egroups.com
> Subject: [motm] Two-Space PS
>
>
> Given the requirement to fit in an SKB case, the PSU can't be
> rotated.  Yet
> the connector board could be removed from the front panel and mounted on
> the side of the enclosure.  This would get it down to a two-space
> module.  It assumes the enclosure were not too wide.  There is room to
> place the switch to the side of the PSU still.  The outlet would
> have to be
> on the back of the enclosure this way, since it would no longer have room
> on the front panel.  I prefer it there anyway.  I would prefer turning on
> the MOTM from the front and having the power cord coming out the back.

As you said, given the requirement to fit in a SKB pop-up mixer case, the
PSU can't be rotated. But also, the cord coming out the back won't work for
the SKB pop-up mixer case because there's no outlet for the cord when the
case is collapsed (which is how I use mine). No big deal for me, but it
would be to future builders in that case.

David.