MOTM

ah. so i will try to trigger my arp omni ii's gate along with my original 
audio source at the same time in order to get the envelope i need. but, if 
my audio has a fast attack, and i preamp'd it, wouldn't that create a large 
enough voltage to open the gate on the EG? ah, but then i'd have to close 
it.....i think i am getting this. thanks guys.

when i insert a signal into my '120 it returns a harsh, LF beating, like 
it's got major intestinal gas or something :)  my audio successfully gets 
preamped, i just can't get a useful sound out of the module. someone wanna 
give me an example patch and i'll be a believer....  i have available: 100, 
110, 120, 410, 800, dual preamp.

markus


At 12:13 PM 3/9/00 +0000, you wrote:

>Message: 4
>    Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 23:22:45 -0600
>    From: "Paul Schreiber" <synth1@...>
>Subject: Re: frustrated beyond belief
>
>You can't, in general, run audio into the GATE. What you need is something
>external
>to generate a GATE. There are 2 ways to do this:
>
>a) use a keyboard or MIDI-CV with GATE out. It doesn't matter which key you
>press :)
>
>b) use a circuit called an Envelope Follower/Gate Extractor. The EF is a
>rectifier followed by a
>low-pass filter. This generates a DC level based on the input amplitude.
>Then, a comparator is set
>to be HIGH (ie at +5V) if this level exceeds a certain trip point (usually a
>panel knob).
>
>There will be a MOTM module that does this in about 8 weeks. There are
>schematics at
>
>www.synthfool.com/diy
>
>for this as well. I think the old Polyfusion EF is there.
>
>What's wrong with the '120??!
>
>Paul S.

One of my favorite uses for the 120 is white or pink noise into input A, LFO
into input B, you can make it sound like a weird mutant breathing.

Moe

> No, you have it right. The 120 has a distinctive sound and rather limited
> function (it is only *one* module after all!), and I think it's not for
> everyone. Experiment with putting audio in input a and a cv in
> input b; put
> them in cross mode and "dial in" the suboctaves one at a time, then try
> different combinations like 1 and 3, 2 and 4, etc. You may be pleasantly
> surprised at the bizarre sh*t this module can do!
>

I agree that the 120 must not be for everyone, but its sure as hell for me!
It was the first module I *knew* I had to order... and when I completed it,
I didn't understand what I was hearing either.  But recently I've been
feeding it the input from a Waldorf Pulse directly (the synth's hot enough
to not really need a preamp!) and getting some really nice following buzzes.
And that's just using the sub-octive functions!  

I really need a patch bay so I can route things around quicker... ;)

--PBr, who likes that nasty gritty sound...

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	David Bivins [SMTP:dbivins@...]
> Sent:	Thursday, March 09, 2000 12:16 PM
> To:	motm@onelist.com
> Subject:	RE: [motm] Digest Number 395
> 
> No, you have it right. The 120 has a distinctive sound and rather limited
> function (it is only *one* module after all!), and I think it's not for
> everyone. Experiment with putting audio in input a and a cv in input b;
> put
> them in cross mode and "dial in" the suboctaves one at a time, then try
> different combinations like 1 and 3, 2 and 4, etc. You may be pleasantly
> surprised at the bizarre sh*t this module can do!
>

> when i insert a signal into my '120 it returns a harsh, LF beating, like
> it's got major intestinal gas or something :)  my audio successfully gets
> preamped, i just can't get a useful sound out of the module.
> someone wanna
> give me an example patch and i'll be a believer....  i have
> available: 100,
> 110, 120, 410, 800, dual preamp.

No, you have it right. The 120 has a distinctive sound and rather limited
function (it is only *one* module after all!), and I think it's not for
everyone. Experiment with putting audio in input a and a cv in input b; put
them in cross mode and "dial in" the suboctaves one at a time, then try
different combinations like 1 and 3, 2 and 4, etc. You may be pleasantly
surprised at the bizarre sh*t this module can do!

David.

> From: mark scetta <n0nspaz@...>
> when i insert a signal into my '120 it returns
> a harsh, LF beating, like it's got major intestinal
> gas or something :)

Mark, you do realize the 120 is for a single frequency if you want sub
harmonics.  If you have any complex audio or more than one note present,
the 120 can't decide who/what/where to divide.  No chords.  :)

Larry H