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2000-02-15 by RevTor@aol.com
Paul, Since everyone raves about the sequencer in the FR-777, and since FR is planning to make a rackmount version of just the sequencer soon so you know its possible, you two should collaborate and put a FR sequencer in a 3 or 4u wide MOTM panel. maybe add another cv or two per stage, and boom a winner. Just a thought... ~Steve (awaiting the arrival of my 777 any day now.. oooh the suspense!)
2000-02-15 by David Bivins
Get the hell out of here! Are you kidding? That's great news. It really is a neat, fun sequencer. I would add triggers (gate only in its current form) so that something could be retriggered while the gate is high as well. A second sequence would be wonderfully excellent too. Funny--as if I haven't mentioned this enough, I'm looking for a new way to rack/case my MOTM, and I was looking at a footlocker I have. I was thinking I could mount the modules in the big end of the trunk, side to side, so that the top modules are at the front of the footlocker. Then I would mount my FR777, TR-606 and TB-303 in the lid of the box so that you could set the box on its "back," open the lid, and have my sequencers right there in front. Obviously this would be a massive kludge, and I'm not going to do this specifically, but I guess it's just a long way to say my MOTM and FR777 go together like Tony Orlando and Dawn. Oh, and you'd need a wider panel I think considering the size of the switches on the FR777. And with the generous real estate on all MOTM modules thus far, I don't think you'd want to use smaller switches (they're equivalent to TR-808 switches, 16 across). David.
> From: RevTor@... > and since FR is > planning to make a rackmount version of just the sequencer soon > so you know > its possible, you two should collaborate and put a FR sequencer > in a 3 or 4u > wide MOTM panel. maybe add another cv or two per stage, and boom > a winner. > Just a thought...
2000-02-16 by DAVEVOSH@aol.com
In a message dated 00-02-15 15:49:06 EST, you write: << Since everyone raves about the sequencer in the FR-777, and since FR is planning to make a rackmount version of just the sequencer soon >> okay, i know i "live in a cave" and don`t keep up with any of the new neat gizmo`s coming into the marketplace, but i have to ask, "whats an fr-777 ? and who`s fr ? " thanks! best, dave v.
2000-02-16 by DAVEVOSH@aol.com
In a message dated 00-02-15 19:44:14 EST, you write: << Future-Retro FR777 Combination 2-osc monosynth (with sub-oscs, FM, lots of weirdness) and sequencer >> dave, okay, thanks for the info..... doesn`t technosaurus make something like this? a mini-synth and sequencer combo? i`ll take a look at the fr website! best, dave
2000-02-16 by David Bivins
Future-Retro FR777 Combination 2-osc monosynth (with sub-oscs, FM, lots of weirdness) and sequencer Designed to emulate a Roland TB-303 and a huge amount more. http://www.future-retro.com I use mine constantly. I love it. David.
> -----Original Message----- > From: DAVEVOSH@... [mailto:DAVEVOSH@...] > Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 5:26 PM > To: motm@onelist.com > Subject: Re: [motm] FR/MOTM unite! > > > From: DAVEVOSH@... > > In a message dated 00-02-15 15:49:06 EST, you write: > > << Since everyone raves about the sequencer in the FR-777, and > since FR is > planning to make a rackmount version of just the sequencer soon >> > > > > okay, > i know i "live in a cave" and don`t keep up with any of the new > neat gizmo`s > coming into the marketplace, but i have to ask, "whats an fr-777 > ? and who`s > fr ? " > thanks! > best, > dave v. > > > > > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- > > FREE ADVICE FROM REAL PEOPLE! Xpertsite has thousands of experts who > are willing to answer your questions for FREE. Go to Xpertsite today > and put your mind to rest. > <a href=" http://clickme.onelist.com/ad/XpersiteCPC ">Click Here</a> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >
2000-02-16 by David Bivins
Yes and no. The Microcon is only one osc (FR777 = 2), but the Microcon has at least a couple of features the 777 does not: two wave LFO and attack control on the EG. Like its pale-by-comparison ancestor (303), the 777 has no control over attack, nor does it have a LFO and that kind of sucks sometimes. The Microcon combo is two items: the synth (they're actually introducing a MIDI-capable version now) and the sequencer. The Cyclodon sequencer is your old-fashioned analog sequencer with 16 knobs. It also has Roland-style sync24 (via din input) so you can be "retro groove-approved" with your other Roland synths. The 777 sequencer is much more complex, but you get absolute note values. With the Cyclodon (the Microcon's sibling), you get 0-5V with each knob, no quantization. The 777 sequencer also has this neat "feature" in that even if the gate is "off" on a certain step, that step still contains a note value which still goes to the CV output. It just won't sound internally. You can therefore sequence a bassline on your MOTM with the CV out of the 777, using an alternate gate or trigger source, while the 777 is playing, say, hi-hats (it has a noise source for audio and HPF). The sequencer has 16 steps, with 16 corresponding switches. When you activate a switch, the gate is high for that step. If you wish the gate to traverse more than one step, merely hold down the switch for the beginning of the gate and then press the final position for the gate. The subsequent switches light up dimly so you can see what's going on. You can add accent and glide (precog portamento) to any step. You also set a loop point for the pattern, so you're not limited to a minimum of 16 steps. I've used the 777 to sequence a self-oscillating 420 (MOTM content!) and it works like a champ. I really wish for a future version that has more than one simultaneous sequence, and corresponding extra CV and gate outputs. You have complete freedom to move between sequences and banks (16 banks of 16 sequences each) while the sequencer is running. IT NEVER GLITCHES--NEVER! Also, it will not activate another sequence until you choose another. In other words, even if you switch banks, it will not jump to sequence 1 in bank 4 if you were just on sequence 1 of bank 2. It will wait for you to activate the new sequence (by pressing its corresponding switch). The synth is no slouch. It has a really great, wicked sound, but it can also sound nice and smooth. It has the 303-style, sounds-like-18dB/oct-filter as well as a 24dB/oct filter. With FM (either osc FMing the other, with envelope too) and some bizarre CV -> filter stuff, you have the makings of something that sounds nothing at all like a 303 unless you really, really want it to. For song-length, complex work (i.e., not the repetitive techno crap I make), it's a bit of a pain because, unlike the 303 or other sequencers that allow you to chain patterns (so you can have more than 16 steps or to audition several sequential patterns in context), you have to chain patterns as a song. This really isn't that big of a deal, but it would be nice to be able to edit several patterns sequentially without having to program them into a song (which is really quite simple). With everything I've said, good and bad, you'll have to pry this thing from my cold, dead hands. I mean, hell, it has wooden end cheeks! :) David.
> -----Original Message----- > From: DAVEVOSH@... [mailto:DAVEVOSH@...] > Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 5:54 PM > To: motm@onelist.com > Subject: Re: [motm] FR/MOTM unite! > > > From: DAVEVOSH@... > > In a message dated 00-02-15 19:44:14 EST, you write: > > << Future-Retro FR777 > Combination 2-osc monosynth (with sub-oscs, FM, lots of weirdness) and > sequencer >> > > > > dave, > okay, thanks for the info..... doesn`t technosaurus make > something like this? > a mini-synth and sequencer combo? > i`ll take a look at the fr website! > best, > dave > > > > > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- > > FREE ADVICE FROM REAL PEOPLE! Xpertsite has thousands of experts who > are willing to answer your questions for FREE. Go to Xpertsite today > and put your mind to rest. > <a href=" http://clickme.onelist.com/ad/XpersiteCPC ">Click Here</a> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >
2000-02-16 by DAVEVOSH@aol.com
In a message dated 00-02-15 20:26:50 EST, you write: << With everything I've said, good and bad, you'll have to pry this thing from my cold, dead hands. I mean, hell, it has wooden end cheeks! :) >> david, well, i guess you like it ! sounds interesting in an abstract sort of way - i`ll have to give their website a look. doesn`t sound, though, like it would really be a good match for what i like to do but that certainly doesn`t mean that it is not a good device ! best, dave v.