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Fw: [motm] Finalizing the (new) MOTM-102 module

2008-02-04 by James Elliott

I'm in complete agreement with Steve. 

Definitely a clock in & out.

-Jim
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From: Stephen Drake <makeme1witheverything@...>
To: MOTM List <motm@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2008 4:02:24 PM
Subject: Re: [motm] Finalizing the (new) MOTM-102 module










  


    
            Sounds cool! I'll take one. 

a - yes, a clock out has been the big missing feature so far. I've never really used the slow out, and don't even really know what it does, so I suppose it won't be missed. 


b-d - cool!

e - oh well. I suppose we can muddle through without it somehow. Lag happens. 

f - wow! Neat feature. How about 12 notes per octave, 24 per, and the other two I dunno, someone else decide. 


g - I'm not even sure I fully comprehend this yet, but it sure sounds like fun to mess with! 

Sounds great! 

Steve


On Feb 3, 2008 2:31 PM, Paul Schreiber <synth1@airmail. net> wrote:














  


    
            Some my recall ~ 1yr ago there was discussion about a MOTM-102 Noise/S&H 

module (some wanted just the S&H part).



I am in the process of finishing the 'design in my head' (well, also the 

schematic!) and this is where the module is right now. The intent of the 

module is two-fold:



a) this will *replace* the MOTM-101 as parts are getting hard/expensive to 

find looking out 2-5yrs from now.

b) I want to add more 'bells & whistles' and take advantage of SMT ICs 

available



To get this out of the way early on: this is a digital module :) It uses a 

60Mhz 32-bit ARM uP connected to serial ADC and DACs. But let's check out 

the current feature list:



a) I am dropping the Vibrato section of the '101, and replacing it with a 

tunable noise source (there are still White/Pink/Slow Random)

----- Now, should I *drop* Slow Random, and instead have Internal Clock Out? 

I am leaning this way myself as this is missing from the '101. See later 

features).



b) The current single in/out analog S&H circuitry is replaced with a 

4-section output (cascade, also called an ASR). The S&H function is through 

a 14-bit A/D D/A path, meaning no "droop".



c) the time delay *between* taps can be set by a panel pot from 0 (typical 

ASR to 256). So, at maximum, there are 1024 clock between the input being 

sampled, and that voltage appearing on the output of Tap #4.



d) early calculations have indicated that the S&H code can be clock at a 

*minimum* of 1Khz. So, at max tap setting, you can get a 1sec delay. Now, 

this is not a "delay line" per se, but certainly you can sample an ADSR EG 

output and get a series (sort of like an arpeggiator) of time-delayed EGs 

out. Yo can also take the 4 outputs to a MOTM-830 mixer, and then shove THAT 

back into the input and get no telling sort of stuff out. We may be able to 

double that, running up to a 2Khz S&H clocking speed.



e) there is not output lag function like in the '101



f) there is a pot (not an input CV, no room) to set a couple of quantizing 

scales. We don't have a lot of room in the ARM's Flash for 256 14-bit scales 

:) We can stick 4-6 scales in there. Suggestions for *which* scales needed. 

Note: this module is NOT intended to be a general-purpose quantizer. That is 

another module altogether. Rather, this is specifically to quantize the S&H 

output. As in the '101, the default S&H input is Pink Noise (no patchcord 

inserted into the S&H IN jack).



g) lastly, there is a *new* feature, enabled by recent high-speed memory 

technology. We will be able to *record and playback* the data into the S&H 

"engine". There is enough memory to record 16 *seconds* at 1Khz clocking. 

Note that the *input* is recorded, not the 4 tap outputs. So, you can record 

and X clock rate, and play back at *any* clock and tap setting! You can also 

loop the recorded data. I though this would be a simple "CV recorder" but 

again not *intended* to be something like the Modcan. Rather, something to 

'fool around with'.



Thoughts?



Paul S.




    
  

    
    
    
     
    
    
      
    

                
              
      
  
 

  
  
  
  

    
    
    
    
    
  
   
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