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This list has been so dead for the past month or so that Paul can release a 
whole bunch of new modules and not a word is said.  Amazing, considering how 
many posts could be generated on the near release of a single module in the 
past.  Let me just say Quad LFO: brilliant, affordable, useful, unexpected 
surprise.  This is similar in concept to the oscillator gang module I thought 
he should have done instead of the uVCO.

-Elhardt

> This list has been so dead for the past month or so that Paul can release
a
> whole bunch of new modules and not a word is said.

i think that's the sound of stunned silence (and grandmothers being
auctioned on ebay)

cheers
paul b
sheffield

Hi y'all--

Ken's quite right, for all the stuff Paul's trumpeting, it *has* been quiet.
Maybe everyone was at NAMM except me?

I quite like the idea of the Quad LFO and micro LFO. Put 'em together and
you've got 6 LFOs in 2U, or a couple regular LFOs and a funky compound
waveform source. It's tough to beat the price too, with the micro modules.

I hope Paul's ready for the influx of orders; I need some little LFOs.
Let me get my shopping list out...

Frank
Baltimore

-----Original Message-----
From: elhardt@... [mailto:elhardt@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 1:47 AM
To: motm@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [motm] New modules


This list has been so dead for the past month or so that Paul can release a
whole bunch of new modules and not a word is said....

hello all,

i think finally we'll see the modular market 'hotting up' - with paul's new
lower price bracket modules, there is going to be a bit of a flurry (not a
McFlurry i hasten to add), i for one should hopefully be adding a 'new'
customer in Feb when the producers i work for will finally start a small
portable rig - the micro-modules help no end in putting a good / budget
system together - although the hinted at micro-power supply would help
things along better i think
talking with the chap who runs the studio next door (the human league)  it
seems that people are begining to shy away from buying 30 year old systems -
i'm thinking more polyfusion here - in favour of modern alternatives...

back to the micro-modules, there's some great lateral thinking there - ie,
the 390 uLFO is a clock source AND and a VCLFO, or it's a cascaded LFO, or
it's two LFOs etc etc (it was the first bit that grabbed me really). the 480
filter - has anyone sold these before..? it's always been moog / korg / ems
/ weirdo filters before...   ...and as for the quad LFO - that's got mondo
drift generator tattooed all over it...

cheers
paul b
sheffield
uk
still doesn't know what a marf is , and whether there is any moral basis to
descriminate against it

MARF is a Buchla module that use 32 silde pots to "draw" an 'Arbitray Function' and spit it out.

<<jeeze, it's raining cats and dogs! Hasn't really rained hard in 7 weeks>>

Yes, the Micro Modules are 'targeted' at lower cost systems. And I have parts to prototype a 1U
wide power supply (powers about 12 modules).

Paul S.

What do you think the chances are of beefing up the power supply?  Even
if it is 2U?  I recently aquired a SKB pop-up, and I'd love to populate
it with microModules... which would be 19 w/ a 1U power supply.  Of
course, that doesn't work.  I'd be much happier with a 2U supply that
had enough juice to power the remaining (max) 18 modules.

Danke.

--PBr

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Schreiber [mailto:synth1@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 4:10 PM
To: MOTM List; sikorsky
Subject: Re: [motm] New modules


Yes, the Micro Modules are 'targeted' at lower cost systems. And I have
parts to prototype a 1U
wide power supply (powers about 12 modules).

While I wasn't too crazy about the micro-module concept initially,
ultimately I believe we'll see this as being a good decision by Paul.
This gives existing customers the ability to expand without breaking the
budget or cabinet dimensions.  I've wanted more LFOs for my system but
was hesitant to add more 320 VCLFOs due to their size.  Now I'll have 6
LFOs in 2U which is just phenomenal.  Many of us have been waiting for a
ladder filter, and that 1U mixer is perfect for sprinkling throughout a
system to put mixers just where you need them.  The uVCO is bound to be
very popular, and even I've decided that I need another VCO and the
micro version is more than sufficient for expanding my system.  And
let's not forget the pedal interface which is one of those modules that
you always need more of, not just as a pedal interface but as a general
utility module.
 
New customers can now find a lower cost entry point.  Anyone on the
Synthesizers.com list can see many people think there's no difference
between modules with 80 cent potentiometers and $8.00 potentiometers.
These lower cost modules will make them think twice about that,
especially when looking at kit prices.  Building the kits is fun, in my
opinion, even relaxing.
John Loffink
jloffink@... 

-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Vanaman [mailto:fvanaman@...] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 5:19 PM
To: Motm-L
Subject: RE: [motm] New modules
 
Hi y'all--

Ken's quite right, for all the stuff Paul's trumpeting, it *has* been
quiet.
Maybe everyone was at NAMM except me?

I quite like the idea of the Quad LFO and micro LFO. Put 'em together
and
you've got 6 LFOs in 2U, or a couple regular LFOs and a funky compound
waveform source. It's tough to beat the price too, with the micro
modules.

I hope Paul's ready for the influx of orders; I need some little LFOs.
Let me get my shopping list out...

Frank
Baltimore

-----Original Message-----
From: elhardt@... [mailto:elhardt@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 1:47 AM
To: motm@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [motm] New modules


This list has been so dead for the past month or so that Paul can
release a
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I've put the Buchla MARF files here:
 
http://www.microtonalsynthesis.com/buchla/
John Loffink
jloffink@... 

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Schreiber [mailto:synth1@...] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 6:10 PM
To: MOTM List; sikorsky
Subject: Re: [motm] New modules
 
MARF is a Buchla module that use 32 silde pots to "draw" an 'Arbitray
Function' and spit it out.

>>>
I've put the Buchla MARF files here:
http://www.microtonalsynthesis.com/buchla/

John Loffink
<<<

Thanks John! I've only had a few minutes to look at it, but the MARF 
definitely rocks! I see echoes of it in the Encore UEG, in JH's 
Interpolating Scanner, and in many latter day sequencer designs.

Must.....redesign.......SuperMoe......again!

Moe

Hello,
 Speaking of the new modules... Is there any specific order that the new 
modules will be released, or will they all start shipping concurrently?

 Thanks,
  Andrew

Shipping order (as of now)

WaveWarper
uSeq
Fixed Filter Bank
Cloud + MIDI-CV (same time)

When? When they are ready, of course! Date? Sorry, I'm married.

Paul S.

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From: <ixqy@...>
To: <motm@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 11:26 AM
Subject: [motm] New modules


> 
>  Hello,
>  Speaking of the new modules... Is there any specific order that the new 
> modules will be released, or will they all start shipping concurrently?
> 
>  Thanks,
>   Andrew
> 
>  
> 
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ 
> 
>

On Friday 31 January 2003 18:40, Paul Schreiber wrote:
> Shipping order (as of now)
>
> WaveWarper

Ah!!! :)))

- Robert

Paul,

What's the status of new module R&D?  Specifically I'd love to know if
you still plan to release a VC-XFade/Panner, and JH's Interpolating
Scanner...

Thanks,

Harry

> What's the status of new module R&D?  Specifically I'd love to know if
> you still plan to release a VC-XFade/Panner, and JH's Interpolating
> Scanner...

First off, as I've stated several times, I'm *always* thinking about new 
modules and the best way to implement them going forward.

The circuitry used in the Frac VCA ('1190) uses 80% of the circuitry in the 
MOTM-130 X-Fade VCA. So, that design is tested and so it's a matter of 
converting from Frac to MOTM, and adding the cross-fade 'hooks' in the 
hardware (obviously, the VCA part is OK). In my mind, I consider that module 
'done' in terms of thinking about/worrying about it down the road.

For the scanner, I plan to do one, but I may implement the design in a 
different way that is more suited to SMT. But yes, I have not abandoned it.


Running around in my head are over 8 new modules, NOT counting the VC Pulse 
Divider (also 'done'), the SEM VCF with output morphing (mostly 'done', some 
SMT conversion issues) and the Triple Pre-amp (a few SMT op amp issues to 
decide, nothing major). Now that January is over, I can have more time to 
ship-down the backlog and start thinking about all this new stuff.

Paul S.

Is the Bi-phase still planned?

Ivan

Wow...I am really excited. Finally a vc pulse divider
and did I read CV recorder. I did not read intensively
on this but will the 102 be able to do short audo
samples as well? or just CV.
Thanks






--- Paul Schreiber <synth1@...> wrote:

> > What's the status of new module R&D?  Specifically
> I'd love to know if
> > you still plan to release a VC-XFade/Panner, and
> JH's Interpolating
> > Scanner...
> 
> First off, as I've stated several times, I'm
> *always* thinking about new 
> modules and the best way to implement them going
> forward.
> 
> The circuitry used in the Frac VCA ('1190) uses 80%
> of the circuitry in the 
> MOTM-130 X-Fade VCA. So, that design is tested and
> so it's a matter of 
> converting from Frac to MOTM, and adding the
> cross-fade 'hooks' in the 
> hardware (obviously, the VCA part is OK). In my
> mind, I consider that module 
> 'done' in terms of thinking about/worrying about it
> down the road.
> 
> For the scanner, I plan to do one, but I may
> implement the design in a 
> different way that is more suited to SMT. But yes, I
> have not abandoned it.
> 
> 
> Running around in my head are over 8 new modules,
> NOT counting the VC Pulse 
> Divider (also 'done'), the SEM VCF with output
> morphing (mostly 'done', some 
> SMT conversion issues) and the Triple Pre-amp (a few
> SMT op amp issues to 
> decide, nothing major). Now that January is over, I
> can have more time to 
> ship-down the backlog and start thinking about all
> this new stuff.
> 
> Paul S.
> 
> 
> 
>  
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 



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I too am excitedly waiting a vc controlled Bi-Phase.

--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, ivancu@... wrote:

>
> Is the Bi-phase still planned?
> 
> Ivan
>

> Wow...I am really excited. Finally a vc pulse divider
> and did I read CV recorder. I did not read intensively
> on this but will the 102 be able to do short audo
> samples as well? or just CV.
> Thanks

a) well, it is a very *simple* CV recorder

b) the memory is 16K (max) samples. So, if you are playing a 120BPM S&H 
sequence (2Hz), that is 8192 seconds or ~2hrs :)

c) I suppose you could record audio up to ~250Hz if you sample at 1Khz 
(there are no anti-aliasing filters per se in there, no output decimation, 
either like on the Cloud Generator). The samples are 14-bit, so the 
amplitude quantizing error would be quite good. I image the output would be 
quite 'noisy', but possibly interesting.

d) something I hadn't really thought of: you could take any CV-generating 
keyboard (like a SH-101) or even the output of a MIDI-CV, and record 16K 
'notes' into it. Of course, you don't *have* to record all of the memory, I 
could put a EOF marker in the One-Shot mode so that if you wanted to record 
say 16 notes, and then Loop them, it could be done.

But again, the intent is a small and *simple* record/playback system. I 
think it will be fun to record at 'X' sample rate, and play back at 'Y' 
while playing around with the tap lengths.

Speaking to the taps: I think the best musical use is to have the knob be 0, 
1, 2, 3..8, then have larger jumps. Having 1-8 will allow nice poly-rhythms 
to be set up, especially if you use 2 of these.

Paul S.

> d) something I hadn't really thought of: you could take any
CV-generating 
> keyboard (like a SH-101) or even the output of a MIDI-CV, and record
16K 
> 'notes' into it. 

What's the assumed range of the CV? In other words, what's the pitch
accuracy going to be, given a 14-bit A/D/A conversion?

--Adam

The input range is -6V to +6V (to have some headroom for +-5V signals, and 
to record some CVs not associated with standard waveforms). So, that is 
12v/16384 or 734uV per LSB. 'Perfect' 1 cent error is 833uV per LSB. My 
experience is that commercial MIDI-CV converters (not the '640, of course) 
and CV outputs of analog synths are accurate to ~1mv for each note. So the 
'102 has sufficient specs.

The MOTM-650 has 150uV per LSB error :)

Paul S.

----- Original Message ----- 

From: "schabtach" <lists@...>
To: <motm@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 10:34 AM
Subject: [motm] Re: New modules


>
>> d) something I hadn't really thought of: you could take any
> CV-generating
>> keyboard (like a SH-101) or even the output of a MIDI-CV, and record
> 16K
>> 'notes' into it.
>
> What's the assumed range of the CV? In other words, what's the pitch
> accuracy going to be, given a 14-bit A/D/A conversion?
>
> --Adam
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

please can the new S&H trigger on the rising edge of the clock? the 
falling edge trigger on the 101 made sync with other modules hard.

tx

>The input range is -6V to +6V (to have some headroom for +-5V signals, and
>to record some CVs not associated with standard waveforms). So, that is
>12v/16384 or 734uV per LSB. 'Perfect' 1 cent error is 833uV per LSB. My
>experience is that commercial MIDI-CV converters (not the '640, of course)
>and CV outputs of analog synths are accurate to ~1mv for each note. So the
>'102 has sufficient specs.
>
>The MOTM-650 has 150uV per LSB error :)
>
>Paul S.

Or perhaps switch selectable?

Jason Proctor wrote:

> 
> 
> please can the new S&H trigger on the rising edge of the clock? the
> falling edge trigger on the 101 made sync with other modules hard.
> 
> tx
> 
>  >The input range is -6V to +6V (to have some headroom for +-5V signals, and
>  >to record some CVs not associated with standard waveforms). So, that is
>  >12v/16384 or 734uV per LSB. 'Perfect' 1 cent error is 833uV per LSB. My
>  >experience is that commercial MIDI-CV converters (not the '640, of course)
>  >and CV outputs of analog synths are accurate to ~1mv for each note. So the
>  >'102 has sufficient specs.
>  >
>  >The MOTM-650 has 150uV per LSB error :)
>  >
>  >Paul S.
>

> Or perhaps switch selectable?
> 

There is room to add this.

Paul S.