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Hi MOTMers

I am looking for an analogue delay unit to use with my MOTM system 
and wondered if you guys had any recommendations.

I have looked at the Moogerfooger (now deleted) and Analogue Systems 
unit (RS290) but the AS is the wrong format and a pain to integrate 
into my current setup.

I am also thinking of building (re-engineering) the delay circuitry 
into the MOTM format to integrate into the modular.  I will consider 
vintage or modern but not Tape.

I have a number of  DSP outboards but digital delays are not 
particular user friendly so I wanted the analogue sound with real-
time control options.

Any suggestions or pearls of wisdom are welcome.

Many thanks

Jagooher.

The Blacet Time Machine appears to be available from the Blacet web site:
http://www.blacet.com/TM2050.html.  You can get an MOTM "Stooge" panel for
this on the next run of panels and marry this with the basic kit from
Blacet, buying your own knobs, pots, jacks, etc.

For a digital delay with better user interface and much better sonic quality
you could either use an Electrix MO-FX (very recent vintage) or Ibanez
DM2000 (older vintage).  These are both rack units.  Paul has started
working on a digital delay but you know how long the delay can be (pun
intended). 

John Loffink
The Microtonal Synthesis Web Site
http://www.microtonal-synthesis.com
The Wavemakers Synthesizer Web Site
http://www.wavemakers-synth.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: jagooher [mailto:rslawson@...]
> 
> Hi MOTMers
> 
> I am looking for an analogue delay unit to use with my MOTM system
> and wondered if you guys had any recommendations.
> 
> I have looked at the Moogerfooger (now deleted) and Analogue Systems
> unit (RS290) but the AS is the wrong format and a pain to integrate
> into my current setup.
> 
> I am also thinking of building (re-engineering) the delay circuitry
> into the MOTM format to integrate into the modular.  I will consider
> vintage or modern but not Tape.
> 
> I have a number of  DSP outboards but digital delays are not
> particular user friendly so I wanted the analogue sound with real-
> time control options.
> 
> Any suggestions or pearls of wisdom are welcome.
>

I agree that the Blacet TM is a good choice.  It is certainly not going to
be clean like a nice digital delay.  But, if analog is what you want, this
is the one from our friend John Blacet.

Once you get one you have 3 very good options to use it in the MOTM size
format.  If you build yourself, you can buy a Stooge or Schaeffer panel and
a Stooge mounting bracket and build it into the large format.  If you buy
your stuff built, buy one of John Blacet's neat conversion panels that holds
his modules in the MOTM space and gives you a spot at the bottom to wire up
the extra 1/4" jacks.

Larry Hendry (1 of 2 Stooges in the synth parts business)
www.wiseguysynth.com

----- Original Message -----
From: John Loffink <jloffink@...>
To: 'jagooher' <rslawson@...>; <motm@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 11:03 AM
Subject: RE: [motm] Analogue Delays


The Blacet Time Machine appears to be available from the Blacet web site:
http://www.blacet.com/TM2050.html.  You can get an MOTM "Stooge" panel for
this on the next run of panels and marry this with the basic kit from
Blacet, buying your own knobs, pots, jacks, etc.

For a digital delay with better user interface and much better sonic quality
you could either use an Electrix MO-FX (very recent vintage) or Ibanez
DM2000 (older vintage).  These are both rack units.  Paul has started
working on a digital delay but you know how long the delay can be (pun
intended).

John Loffink
The Microtonal Synthesis Web Site
http://www.microtonal-synthesis.com
The Wavemakers Synthesizer Web Site
http://www.wavemakers-synth.com


> -----Original Message-----
> From: jagooher [mailto:rslawson@...]
>
> Hi MOTMers
>
> I am looking for an analogue delay unit to use with my MOTM system
> and wondered if you guys had any recommendations.
>
> I have looked at the Moogerfooger (now deleted) and Analogue Systems
> unit (RS290) but the AS is the wrong format and a pain to integrate
> into my current setup.
>
> I am also thinking of building (re-engineering) the delay circuitry
> into the MOTM format to integrate into the modular.  I will consider
> vintage or modern but not Tape.
>
> I have a number of  DSP outboards but digital delays are not
> particular user friendly so I wanted the analogue sound with real-
> time control options.
>
> Any suggestions or pearls of wisdom are welcome.
>






Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

I have a half dozen analogue electronic and mechanical delays, and 
four digital delays (I had more but I sold them).  It sounds like you 
want a BBD, although some of the early non-DSP digital delays (such 
as the Korg SDD-2000) can produce similar effects (eg. the sampling 
rate changes as the delay time is modulated).

The problem with analogue delays is that, afaik, BBD chips are no 
longer made. If the Blacet Time Machine is still available, that is 
probably your best choice.  I know nothing about the AS.   Other than 
those, you can get a used delay, but I wouldn't recommend hacking it 
up to fit MOTM format.  Not only could you run into all sorts of 
problems with adapting the power supply, getting the pots to fit, 
etc., but it would lower its resale value.


On 12/7/03, jagooher put forth:

>Hi MOTMers
>
>I am looking for an analogue delay unit to use with my MOTM system
>and wondered if you guys had any recommendations.
>
>I have looked at the Moogerfooger (now deleted) and Analogue Systems
>unit (RS290) but the AS is the wrong format and a pain to integrate
>into my current setup.
>
>I am also thinking of building (re-engineering) the delay circuitry
>into the MOTM format to integrate into the modular.  I will consider
>vintage or modern but not Tape.
>
>I have a number of  DSP outboards but digital delays are not
>particular user friendly so I wanted the analogue sound with real-
>time control options.
>
>Any suggestions or pearls of wisdom are welcome.
>
>Many thanks
>
>Jagooher.

Many thanks for all your responses to my question - much appreciated

Jagooher

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark [mailto:yahoogroups@...] 
Sent: 08 December 2003 19:34
To: motm@yahoogroups.com
Cc: jagooher
Subject: Re: [motm] Analogue Delays



I have a half dozen analogue electronic and mechanical delays, and 
four digital delays (I had more but I sold them).  It sounds like you 
want a BBD, although some of the early non-DSP digital delays (such 
as the Korg SDD-2000) can produce similar effects (eg. the sampling 
rate changes as the delay time is modulated).

The problem with analogue delays is that, afaik, BBD chips are no 
longer made. If the Blacet Time Machine is still available, that is 
probably your best choice.  I know nothing about the AS.   Other than 
those, you can get a used delay, but I wouldn't recommend hacking it 
up to fit MOTM format.  Not only could you run into all sorts of 
problems with adapting the power supply, getting the pots to fit, 
etc., but it would lower its resale value.


On 12/7/03, jagooher put forth:

>Hi MOTMers
>
>I am looking for an analogue delay unit to use with my MOTM system
>and wondered if you guys had any recommendations.
>
>I have looked at the Moogerfooger (now deleted) and Analogue Systems
>unit (RS290) but the AS is the wrong format and a pain to integrate
>into my current setup.
>
>I am also thinking of building (re-engineering) the delay circuitry
>into the MOTM format to integrate into the modular.  I will consider
>vintage or modern but not Tape.
>
>I have a number of  DSP outboards but digital delays are not
>particular user friendly so I wanted the analogue sound with real-
>time control options.
>
>Any suggestions or pearls of wisdom are welcome.
>
>Many thanks
>
>Jagooher.