MOTM

What is everyone using for patch cable wire?  I always build my own cables.
I'm looking for something flexible, comes in different colors (like red and
blue) and has a drain wire.  I was considering something like Canare quad
mic cable but that wire doesn't have a drain and I'm not too excited about
dressing that many ends with a tight braid.

thanks!

- chris

I use Belden blck, and then colored heat shrink...


--- In motm@y..., Chris Walcott <cwalcott@m...> wrote:
> What is everyone using for patch cable wire?  I always build my 
own cables.
> I'm looking for something flexible, comes in different colors 
(like red and
> blue) and has a drain wire.  I was considering something like 
Canare quad
> mic cable but that wire doesn't have a drain and I'm not too 
excited about

> dressing that many ends with a tight braid.
> 
> thanks!
> 
> - chris

--- In motm@y..., Chris Walcott <cwalcott@m...> wrote:
> What is everyone using for patch cable wire?  I always build my own
> cables.  I'm looking for something flexible, comes in different
> colors (like red and blue) and has a drain wire.  I was considering
> something like Canare quad mic cable but that wire doesn't have a
> drain and I'm not too excited about dressing that many ends with a
> tight braid.


Good question!  As a new MOTM user, I am looking into this as well.  I 
haven't decided yet if I want to build my own cables or pay a little 
extra to have someone like Markertek do it.  (Building patch cables 
isn't all that exciting.)


For the 1/4" plugs, I am leaning to the Canare F-15:

http://www.canare.com/audiolineconnectors/audiolineconnectcover.html

I have built "RCA" patch cables with the F-10s - these are really nice 
connectors, easy to solder, etc.  I actually don't have any experience 
with the F-15 yet (I hope they have the same "solder cup" for the 
center contact as the F-10) - I plan to order a few samples and take a 
look before making a final decision.


I don't see any value in using star quad type cable for unbalanced 
patch cords.  I asked Paul about cables and he mentioned the Conquest 
USA-1, which is a single conductor shielded "guitar cord" type cable.  
Unfortunately, Markertek doesn't seem to sell this stuff.  As an 
alternative, I am looking at Mogami 2792 - this is nice flexible cable 
that I have used before and it is available in multiple colors.  
(Markertek stocks black, blue, green, red, and yellow for the 2792.)  
This has a spiral type shield as opposed to a braid so it is much 
easier to terminate.  It also has the conductive coating over the 
insulation on the inner conductors which is intended to reduce 
microphonics in the cable.  (Handling noise - though probably only 
applicable for microphone applications where low signal level/high 
gain are involved.)

If anyone else has suggestions for cable - I'd love to hear about it.


Seth

I bought some of the last few spools of colored cable that DGS Gotham made. 
It's now discontinued. I had to get it mailed in from Switzerland. It's 
available in blue, red, yellow, and black and is very rubbery and flexible (no 
drain thought). Black is still available in the US. The reason I mention this 
is I'm still debating whether I want to sell/auction off a spool each of red, 
blue, and yellow. I kind of had it in the back of my mind I might make some 
modular synth cable sets to sell, but it's boring work and not very profitable.

-Elhardt

Just use Concord USA-1 cable, comes in like 6 colors, VERY flexible.

Paul S.

At 05:52 PM 10/19/2002 -0500, Paul Schreiber wrote:
>Just use Concord USA-1 cable, comes in like 6 colors, VERY flexible.

I've been looking around for this cable.  It is what John K. was using for 
his cables.  Do you know of any reasonable sources for this cable?


-dave-

http://www.hylander.com

> At 05:52 PM 10/19/2002 -0500, Paul Schreiber wrote:
> >Just use Concord USA-1 cable, comes in like 6 colors, VERY flexible.
>
> I've been looking around for this cable.  It is what John K. was using for
> his cables.  Do you know of any reasonable sources for this cable?
>

Hmm...I just remembered he said something about "only available in 5,000ft spools"! But it was
also 6 cents/foot.

Paul S.

Hey, I've got 200 Neutrik 1/4" connectors sitting here calling for me to do
something with them.  If someone is interested in buying a spool and
splitting it up, I am good for about 500 feet.   I agree the USA-1 cable
seems nice.  I have some of the Kovacky cables.  However, I know it will be
a LONG time before I can get to soldering mine. Maybe that is another task I
can teach my wife to do. :)

BTW, I am taking the Wacky Kovacy cable page down from my website.  John has
not bothered to answer my e-mail when I inquired.

Larry Hendry

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Schreiber <synth1@...>
> I've been looking around for this cable.  It is what John K. was using for
> his cables.  Do you know of any reasonable sources for this cable?
>

Hmm...I just remembered he said something about "only available in 5,000ft
spools"! But it was
also 6 cents/foot.

Paul S.

At 06:43 PM 10/19/2002 -0500, J. Larry Hendry wrote:
>Hey, I've got 200 Neutrik 1/4" connectors sitting here calling for me to do
>something with them.  If someone is interested in buying a spool and
>splitting it up, I am good for about 500 feet.   I agree the USA-1 cable
>seems nice.  I have some of the Kovacky cables.  However, I know it will be
>a LONG time before I can get to soldering mine. Maybe that is another task I
>can teach my wife to do. :)


I'll see if I can find out where to get the cable from, and look at getting 
a BIG spool.  If anyone else is interested let me know.


-dave-

http://www.hylander.com

I'm sorry to hear that this stuff has been discontinued. I used some awhile
ago and liked it a lot.

--Adam

> I bought some of the last few spools of colored cable that DGS Gotham made.
> It's now discontinued. I had to get it mailed in from Switzerland. It's
> available in blue, red, yellow, and black and is very rubbery and flexible (no
> drain thought). Black is still available in the US. The reason I mention this
> is I'm still debating whether I want to sell/auction off a spool each of red,
> blue, and yellow. I kind of had it in the back of my mind I might make some
> modular synth cable sets to sell, but it's boring work and not very
> profitable.