MOTM

----- Original Message -----
From: rogerpellegrini <pellegrini_roger@...>
To: <motm@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 4:06 PM
Subject: [motm] MOTM-450 Layout Winner


In view of the obvious fact that my ideas are not shared by the
majority, I take up the mantle of the irritant in the oyster that
(hopes) to contribute to the pearl and dutifully point out the
various peculiarities of the winning design:

(1) Whereas the "band" knobs increase in cutoff frequency as one goes
from the top to the bottom of the panel, the lowpass knob (presumably
with the lowest cutoff freq) is at the bottom and the highpass knob
is at the top!

(2) The highpass knob's cutoff freq is close to that of band 8, but
is diagonally across the panel from it (as far as you can get).

(3) The lowpass knob's cutoff freq is close to that of band 1, but is
a panel's height (far) away from it.

In any case, as I'm not even a potential customer for this module,
I'll shut up...I use the old Moog 907 (not the "A", but the original
R.A. Moog filterbank) which has a horizontal layout over a vast
expanse of wasted panel space!  yippee

Best regards,
Roger





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>  >>>>
>Personally, I voted for the layout, not necessarily the assignment of
>which control is in which location. I think this could be improved
>on. Ideas?
><<<<
>
>Well, there are two existing examples to choose from:
>
>1. The Moog filterbank starts with low bands at the top and works its
>way down thus:
>
>1  2
>3  4
>5  6
>7  8
>
>2. Desk EQs start at the bottom and go up, albeit in a single column:
>
>7  8
>5  6
>3  4
>1  2
>
>3. Then you have vertical orientation possibilities:
>
>1  5
>2  6
>3  7
>4  8
>
>4. and
>
>4  8
>3  7
>2  6
>1  5
>
>For examples 1 and 3, I'd put LP at the top left and HP at the bottom
>left, reversing their positions for examples 2 and 4. That's about
>the best you can do, given the constraints of the layout.
>
>Moe

> 
> >>>>
> Personally, I voted for the layout, not necessarily the assignment of
> which control is in which location. I think this could be improved
> on. Ideas?
> <<<<
> 
> Well, there are two existing examples to choose from:
> 
> 1. The Moog filterbank starts with low bands at the top and works its
> way down thus:
> 
> 1  2
> 3  4
> 5  6
> 7  8
> 
> 2. Desk EQs start at the bottom and go up, albeit in a single column:
> 
> 7  8
> 5  6
> 3  4
> 1  2
> 
> 3. Then you have vertical orientation possibilities:
> 
> 1  5
> 2  6
> 3  7
> 4  8
> 
> 4. and
> 
> 4  8
> 3  7
> 2  6
> 1  5
> 
> For examples 1 and 3, I'd put LP at the top left and HP at the bottom
> left, reversing their positions for examples 2 and 4. That's about
> the best you can do, given the constraints of the layout.
> 
> Moe
> 
> 
> 
> 
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----- Original Message -----
From: mate_stubb <mate_stubb@...>
To: <motm@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: [motm] MOTM-450 Layout Winner


>>>>
Personally, I voted for the layout, not necessarily the assignment of
which control is in which location. I think this could be improved
on. Ideas?
<<<<

Well, there are two existing examples to choose from:

1. The Moog filterbank starts with low bands at the top and works its
way down thus:

1  2
3  4
5  6
7  8

2. Desk EQs start at the bottom and go up, albeit in a single column:

7  8
5  6
3  4
1  2

3. Then you have vertical orientation possibilities:

1  5
2  6
3  7
4  8

4. and

4  8
3  7
2  6
1  5

For examples 1 and 3, I'd put LP at the top left and HP at the bottom
left, reversing their positions for examples 2 and 4. That's about
the best you can do, given the constraints of the layout.

Moe





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From: J. Larry Hendry <jlarryh@...>
To: <motm@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: [motm] MOTM-450 Layout Winner


> Or (for discussion):
> L, 1, 2
> 3, 4, 5
> 6, 7, 8,
> S, H,G
>
> L & H obvious, S = switch G = Gain that some feel we need. (still have 8
> pots on PCBs.
> Larry
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: mate_stubb <mate_stubb@...>
> To: <motm@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 8:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [motm] MOTM-450 Layout Winner
>
>
> >>>>
> Personally, I voted for the layout, not necessarily the assignment of
> which control is in which location. I think this could be improved
> on. Ideas?
> <<<<
>
> Well, there are two existing examples to choose from:
>
> 1. The Moog filterbank starts with low bands at the top and works its
> way down thus:
>
> 1  2
> 3  4
> 5  6
> 7  8
>
> 2. Desk EQs start at the bottom and go up, albeit in a single column:
>
> 7  8
> 5  6
> 3  4
> 1  2
>
> 3. Then you have vertical orientation possibilities:
>
> 1  5
> 2  6
> 3  7
> 4  8
>
> 4. and
>
> 4  8
> 3  7
> 2  6
> 1  5
>
> For examples 1 and 3, I'd put LP at the top left and HP at the bottom
> left, reversing their positions for examples 2 and 4. That's about
> the best you can do, given the constraints of the layout.
>
> Moe
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From: J. Larry Hendry

To: motm@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 7:50 AM

Subject: Re: [motm] MOTM-450 Layout Winner

Or (for discussion):
L, 1, 2
3, 4, 5
6, 7, 8,
S, H,G

L & H obvious, S = switch G = Gain that some feel we need. (still have 8
pots on PCBs.
Larry

----- Original Message -----
From: mate_stubb <mate_stubb@...>
To: <motm@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: [motm] MOTM-450 Layout Winner


>>>>
Personally, I voted for the layout, not necessarily the assignment of
which control is in which location. I think this could be improved
on. Ideas?
<<<<

Well, there are two existing examples to choose from:

1. The Moog filterbank starts with low bands at the top and works its
way down thus:

1 2
3 4
5 6
7 8

2. Desk EQs start at the bottom and go up, albeit in a single column:

7 8
5 6
3 4
1 2

3. Then you have vertical orientation possibilities:

1 5
2 6
3 7
4 8

4. and

4 8
3 7
2 6
1 5

For examples 1 and 3, I'd put LP at the top left and HP at the bottom
left, reversing their positions for examples 2 and 4. That's about
the best you can do, given the constraints of the layout.

Moe





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-dave-

Having now seen the prototype ( http://www.oldcrows.net/~jhaible/mixed/jh_filterbank_etc.jpg ), I'd prefer to have frequency markings rather than Band 1, Band 2, etc.

-dave-