MOTM

Since I didn't screw up the flat rails, I have official permission to
produce the dress end caps for the end of the rack rails that everyone has
been asking about for a long time.  I will be selling them as another
"officially licensed" MOTM product of Stooge Industries.

I need your input if you are interested in these.  Please send me mail (I
don't mind if you copy the list as we can generate some discussion about
features).  And, I don't have a clue what they will cost. That depends on
what we all want them to be like.   I only promise to make all reasonable
efforts to keep the cost as low as possible.

So, some input on these questions please:

1. About how many would you buy?  I'm not trying to pin anyone down.  But, I
have to know whether we are talking about 100 or 2000.

2. What finish?  I can match the black we have used on the panels.  Or, they
can be a beautiful brushed aluminum.  If they are black, they can be
screened with something generic, or even personalized.  But, that will add
significantly to the cost.

3. How wide?  Not all racks have the same space at the side after you get
the modules in there.  The width of these will probably be widest they can
be and still fit the space of the rack with the least space (I think that
will be the SKB racks).  But, I want to hear about yours.

Stooge Larry

Hi Larry,

Great to hear of the continuation of Stogge
Industries. I would like to have 4 of these right now
and maybe more down the road. But only 2 or 4 more at
the most. I have a big wood cabient and I want to add
a second, but I will always keep my 10-space SKB for
pre-thrird cabinet exapnsion and its current state now
holding modules till case #2 is complete. 

I think it would be very cool to have maybe "MOTM"
vertically screeded on the lower half of one side and
"Synthesis Technology" on the other. These produced
along with standard blanks would allow us to customize
our units to "MOTM" or "Synthesis Technology" or both.
Maybe thrown in the old "Synthtech.com" sometime for
fun ;) HA!

Maybe like this:
1. Reversible piece (all black) for either side
2. MOTM screened piece for one side?
3. Synthesis Technology piece for one side?
4. Simply designed black piece with a ribbon
controller in it running up the MOTM, HA! JK

Just a bunch of ideas anyway,

Thomas White

--- "J. Larry Hendry" <jlarryh@...> wrote:
> Since I didn't screw up the flat rails, I have
> official permission to
> produce the dress end caps for the end of the rack
> rails that everyone has
> been asking about for a long time.  I will be
> selling them as another
> "officially licensed" MOTM product of Stooge
> Industries.
> 
> I need your input if you are interested in these. 
> Please send me mail (I
> don't mind if you copy the list as we can generate
> some discussion about
> features).  And, I don't have a clue what they will
> cost. That depends on
> what we all want them to be like.   I only promise
> to make all reasonable
> efforts to keep the cost as low as possible.
> 
> So, some input on these questions please:
> 
> 1. About how many would you buy?  I'm not trying to
> pin anyone down.  But, I
> have to know whether we are talking about 100 or
> 2000.
> 
> 2. What finish?  I can match the black we have used
> on the panels.  Or, they
> can be a beautiful brushed aluminum.  If they are
> black, they can be
> screened with something generic, or even
> personalized.  But, that will add
> significantly to the cost.
> 
> 3. How wide?  Not all racks have the same space at
> the side after you get
> the modules in there.  The width of these will
> probably be widest they can
> be and still fit the space of the rack with the
> least space (I think that
> will be the SKB racks).  But, I want to hear about
> yours.
> 
> Stooge Larry
> 
> 
> 


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Larry,

Thank you, thank you!  Your service to the MOTM community is simply amazing.

I would certainly buy a few sets to handle the modules that didn't make it into my
wood cabinet.  I think that MOTM modules in a rack don't appear "professional"
without end caps.  

I suggest that you keep the finish simple, matching the modules or at least the same
color unless adding some MOTM specific flair is not very expensive ("Synthesis
Technology" in vertical print, for example). 

I'm puzzled by the comments about rack widths.  There are standards for this stuff. 
The MTOM rack rails have to follow those standards and thousands of products exist
that conform to those standards.  Why is there concern about variability if you are
adhering to the standard?  My guess is that you should make them slightly narrower
than the distance between a panel on the end of a rack rail and the end of the rail.
 I measure this to be about 3/4" regardless of the rack.  Whatever you do, don't go
by the width of racks out there.  They either hold 19" rack modules or they don't.  

Other examples of racks for modular modules exist.  Synth.com has something and an
example from 1970 can be found for auction at:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1462036776

   Eric

--- "J. Larry Hendry" <jlarryh@...> wrote:
> Since I didn't screw up the flat rails, I have official permission to
> produce the dress end caps for the end of the rack rails that everyone has
> been asking about for a long time.  I will be selling them as another
> "officially licensed" MOTM product of Stooge Industries.
> 
> I need your input if you are interested in these.  Please send me mail (I
> don't mind if you copy the list as we can generate some discussion about
> features).  And, I don't have a clue what they will cost. That depends on
> what we all want them to be like.   I only promise to make all reasonable
> efforts to keep the cost as low as possible.
> 
> So, some input on these questions please:
> 
> 1. About how many would you buy?  I'm not trying to pin anyone down.  But, I
> have to know whether we are talking about 100 or 2000.
> 
> 2. What finish?  I can match the black we have used on the panels.  Or, they
> can be a beautiful brushed aluminum.  If they are black, they can be
> screened with something generic, or even personalized.  But, that will add
> significantly to the cost.
> 
> 3. How wide?  Not all racks have the same space at the side after you get
> the modules in there.  The width of these will probably be widest they can
> be and still fit the space of the rack with the least space (I think that
> will be the SKB racks).  But, I want to hear about yours.
> 
> Stooge Larry
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
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> 
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I would take two sets of these right now.  Prefer plain black to match the 
modules; nothing else on them.

I intend to drill out one set and put in a couple of LED's to indicate +/- 
power, similar to the PAIA FrakRak optional power panel.

Ivan

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: alt-mode <alt_mode@...>
> Thank you, thank you!  Your service to the
> MOTM community is simply amazing.

--LH--
Well, metal is "grunt" work I am happy to do so Paul can concentrate on
synth stuff.  And, the person who really started this all (Stooge
Industries), the man behind the scenes on ALL of the screening is Dave
Bradley.  Dave does all the artwork and coordinates the screening for the
Stooge panels.  I am the "metal and paint" guy it seems.  Thanks to Paul for
license to make product to carry the MOTM brand (flat rails).

> I suggest that you keep the finish simple, matching the
> modules or at least the same color unless adding some
> MOTM specific flair is not very expensive ("Synthesis
> Technology" in vertical print, for example).

--LH--
My guess is that is what people will want -- just plain black
to match the modules.  However, it would be possible to
make most of them plain and then lean on the services of Dave
Bradley to screen some if there was a serious interest in having
some of them screened.  It takes quite a few to make the
price reasonable.

> I'm puzzled by the comments about rack widths.  There are
> standards for this stuff.  The MOTM rack rails have to follow
> those standards and thousands of products exist that conform
> to those standards.  Why is there concern about variability if
> you are adhering to the standard?  My guess is that you should
> make them slightly narrower than the distance between a panel
> on the end of a rack rail and the end of the rail.  I measure this
> to be about 3/4" regardless of the rack.

--LH--
Well, I don't think there is a standard that governs how wide the
space has to be "outside" the hole spacing.  I think 3/4" is the
probably the right answer.

Larry

Hi Larry and all,
 Sign me up for four of these please. I kind of like the idea of 
displaying Synthesis Technology on them, but I'm not really sure how 
it would look on such a narrow piece of metal. Maybe some kind of 
logo instead?

 Thanks once again for all the extra work you and Dave do to keep our 
modulars happy, : )
 Andrew


--- In motm@y..., "J. Larry Hendry" <jlarryh@i...> wrote:
> Since I didn't screw up the flat rails, I have official permission 
to
> produce the dress end caps for the end of the rack rails that 
everyone has
> been asking about for a long time.  I will be selling them as 
another
> "officially licensed" MOTM product of Stooge Industries.
> 
> I need your input if you are interested in these.  Please send me 
mail (I
> don't mind if you copy the list as we can generate some discussion 
about
> features).  And, I don't have a clue what they will cost. That 
depends on
> what we all want them to be like.   I only promise to make all 
reasonable
> efforts to keep the cost as low as possible.
> 
> So, some input on these questions please:
> 
> 1. About how many would you buy?  I'm not trying to pin anyone 
down.  But, I
> have to know whether we are talking about 100 or 2000.
> 
> 2. What finish?  I can match the black we have used on the panels.  
Or, they
> can be a beautiful brushed aluminum.  If they are black, they can be
> screened with something generic, or even personalized.  But, that 
will add
> significantly to the cost.
> 
> 3. How wide?  Not all racks have the same space at the side after 
you get
> the modules in there.  The width of these will probably be widest 
they can
> be and still fit the space of the rack with the least space (I 
think that

> will be the SKB racks).  But, I want to hear about yours.
> 
> Stooge Larry

> IMPORTANT for the people in Europe (like me) :
>
> The holes (outlets) for the mounting screws should be (at least) of 6 mm
> width (which is obviously more than the rails Paul did supply have ). This
> would allow to use them without modifying the racks. They have metric
nuts -
> M6.

hello all,
a simple (ish ) solution to this problem - for the existing rails at least -
is buy a set of "hum-free" rack bolts, these are designed to isolate
equipment from a rack - it's an M6 bolt thread with an M5 body covered in
PVC - strip the PVC off and it fits the MOTM rack rails to an M6 caged nut
(alternatively try and track down some M5 caged nuts in Europe - hmmm)

ps - how were people mounting their mini-wave stooge panel combos..?
i ordered a stooge long bracket and hacked it down (rather badly) is this
really the best way..?

cheers
paul b
sheffield
near england etc...

My apologies to those who were not around the list when discussion of the
end caps was taken place.  I am have been here so long, I guess I forget
that some have not been here so long.  No old fart jokes... OK  :)

Another MOTM user sent this question:

> Can you help me understand what these actually are ?

So, here is a photo of what the matching black end would look like.  For you
that think this might be a computer rendering... wrong.  This is the real
thing.  My computer rendering skills are not that good.  :)

http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/rackendcap.jpg

So far, response has been very minimal.  However, that's not a problem.  I
am going to make them even if we only sell 50.

Larry

My apologies to those who were not around the list when discussion of the
end caps was taken place.  I am have been here so long, I guess I forget
that some have not been here so long.  No old fart jokes... OK  :)

Another MOTM user sent this question:

> Can you help me understand what these actually are ?

So, here is a photo of what the matching black end would look like.  For you
that think this might be a computer rendering... wrong.  This is the real
thing.  My computer rendering skills are not that good.  :)

http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/rackendcap.jpg

So far, response has been very minimal.  However, that's not a problem.  I
am going to make them even if we only sell 50.

Larry

Thanks Larry, the picture helped end some confusion.  Assuming these can be
used with standard (non-flat) rails in standard 19" racks, I could use 16 of
them.  I like the matching black look, and a silkscreen of 'Synthesis
Technology' on one side might be nice.

Cheers,
George

----- Original Message -----
From: J. Larry Hendry <jlarryh@...>

> My apologies to those who were not around the list when discussion of the
> end caps was taken place.  I am have been here so long, I guess I forget
> that some have not been here so long.  No old fart jokes... OK  :)
>
> Another MOTM user sent this question:
>
> > Can you help me understand what these actually are ?
>
> So, here is a photo of what the matching black end would look like.  For
you

> that think this might be a computer rendering... wrong.  This is the real
> thing.  My computer rendering skills are not that good.  :)
>
> http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/rackendcap.jpg
>
> So far, response has been very minimal.  However, that's not a problem.  I
> am going to make them even if we only sell 50.
>
> Larry

In-Reply-To: <001b01c138b3$3b227560$a4302bd1@oemcomputer>
> dress end caps for the end of the rack rails that everyone has
been asking about for a long time


I am sorry to be so stupid but what on earth are these?!

Keith

http://home.freeuk.net/lowpass

Sign me up for 12.  3/4" wide, right?

--- In motm@y..., "J. Larry Hendry" <jlarryh@i...> wrote:
> My apologies to those who were not around the list when 
discussion...