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2001-05-24 by Tentochi
Currently all of the OMS-410 kits are spoken for. The deadline for payment is June 7th. If everyone has not given me a down payment by that time, I will open it up again. If you would like me to put you on the waiting list, please send me an email. The final price is US$130 which includes shipping to Canada and the United States. US$140 elsewhere. Cheers! Todd
2001-11-13 by Alan Wagner
Todd, I would like to thank you for making OMS-410 Kits available to the list. I know from ordering all the parts for Larry's 831 and 822 what a chore this can be. I can only imagine what it would be like to try and tackle a job like this for everyone on the list. Is there anything I can do to help you speed up the process? I'd be willing to help kit up parts or whatever to help you get these modules out. Let me know where you're at with these kits and what I can do to help. Patiently waiting, Thank You, Al Wagner
2001-11-13 by psygfx@yahoo.com
There is an oms 410 kit? Can someone give me info? Is there also other kits I am unaware of?
-----Original Message----- From: Alan Wagner [mailto:aardvark-mi@...] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 6:06 PM To: tentochi@...; MOTM List Subject: [motm] OMS-410 Kits Todd, I would like to thank you for making OMS-410 Kits available to the list. I know from ordering all the parts for Larry's 831 and 822 what a chore this can be. I can only imagine what it would be like to try and tackle a job like this for everyone on the list. Is there anything I can do to help you speed up the process? I'd be willing to help kit up parts or whatever to help you get these modules out. Let me know where you're at with these kits and what I can do to help. Patiently waiting, Thank You, Al Wagner Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @... address at http://mail.yahoo.com
2001-11-13 by psygfx@yahoo.com
Cool well I already ordered bit the 310 and 820 panels from you. I am I need of the pcb's still though, too bad the guy making the kits isnt still offering them. I sent tony an email about pcbs but havent got a reply. Maybee Ill email him again. Thanks for the info matt
-----Original Message----- From: J. Larry Hendry [mailto:jlarryh@...] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 7:42 PM To: 'MOTM List'; psygfx@... Subject: Re: [motm] OMS-410 Kits ----- Original Message ----- From: <psygfx@...> To: <motm@yahoogroups.com> There is an oms 410 kit? Can someone give me info? Is there also other kits I am unaware of? Larry Hendry writes: Tony Allgood sells some PCBs (not kits) for some modules in the MOTM format. He has specifically a OMS-410 which connects to Paul's MOTM-410 to add some additional features. The same is true for his newly released OMS-820 which connects to Paul's MOTM-820 to add some additional features. Tony also has other PCBs that others here have built. But, other than selling the pots and hard to find parts, Tony does not sell full kits. Here is the link to Tony's site: http://www.oakleysound.com/ If you do build one of Tony's circuits from his PCBs and documentation, and you need a MOTM-like front panel, you can get some of them (not all) from Stooge panels, Inc. Dave Bradley and I make these panels available for MOTM users. You can find information about the panels at: http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/panel.htm Tony also recommends a German company for panel fronts that are similar, to MOTM in size but not exactly the same finish. But, they do supply panels for anything and Dave and I only make a select number of the Oakley panels. As far as kits, Todd Faulkner offered to pull together fulll kits but buying the parts in bulk and distrobuting them to everyone. He did purchase 23 of the OMS-410 panel fronts from me. Todd is having some personal challenges right now and has been delayed in shipping his kits which everyone pre-paid for. I expect Todd will make good on his delivery. I do not expect he is still offering this service. If you are planning to order a 410 PCB from Tony and want a MOTM style front panel, we sell them for $16. We print them via custom order every few months. We are just placing an order right now and I can just squeeze you in for one of these if you let me know soon. I also sell a MOTM companion project PCB and supporting parts not commonly available in catalogs. It provides octave anbd interval switching to accompany the MOTM-300. Unlike Tony's modules that actually connect to the MOTM modules. Mine is a stand alone module that works with any 1/volt per octave VCO. You can find information about my voltage switcher at: http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/jlh-822/822.htm Let me know if you have additional questions. Larry Hendry www.wiseguysynth.com _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @... address at http://mail.yahoo.com
2001-11-13 by J. Larry Hendry
----- Original Message -----
From: <psygfx@...> To: <motm@yahoogroups.com> There is an oms 410 kit? Can someone give me info? Is there also other kits I am unaware of? Larry Hendry writes: Tony Allgood sells some PCBs (not kits) for some modules in the MOTM format. He has specifically a OMS-410 which connects to Paul's MOTM-410 to add some additional features. The same is true for his newly released OMS-820 which connects to Paul's MOTM-820 to add some additional features. Tony also has other PCBs that others here have built. But, other than selling the pots and hard to find parts, Tony does not sell full kits. Here is the link to Tony's site: http://www.oakleysound.com/ If you do build one of Tony's circuits from his PCBs and documentation, and you need a MOTM-like front panel, you can get some of them (not all) from Stooge panels, Inc. Dave Bradley and I make these panels available for MOTM users. You can find information about the panels at: http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/panel.htm Tony also recommends a German company for panel fronts that are similar, to MOTM in size but not exactly the same finish. But, they do supply panels for anything and Dave and I only make a select number of the Oakley panels. As far as kits, Todd Faulkner offered to pull together fulll kits but buying the parts in bulk and distrobuting them to everyone. He did purchase 23 of the OMS-410 panel fronts from me. Todd is having some personal challenges right now and has been delayed in shipping his kits which everyone pre-paid for. I expect Todd will make good on his delivery. I do not expect he is still offering this service. If you are planning to order a 410 PCB from Tony and want a MOTM style front panel, we sell them for $16. We print them via custom order every few months. We are just placing an order right now and I can just squeeze you in for one of these if you let me know soon. I also sell a MOTM companion project PCB and supporting parts not commonly available in catalogs. It provides octave anbd interval switching to accompany the MOTM-300. Unlike Tony's modules that actually connect to the MOTM modules. Mine is a stand alone module that works with any 1/volt per octave VCO. You can find information about my voltage switcher at: http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/jlh-822/822.htm Let me know if you have additional questions. Larry Hendry www.wiseguysynth.com
2001-11-13 by Scott Juskiw
Can you elaborate on how the process works for deciding on whether or not to make a Stooge panel for a third party module? I'm curious because next year I hope to add some MOTM compatible modules to the pot. >Larry Hendry writes: > >If you do build one of Tony's circuits from his PCBs and documentation, and >you need a MOTM-like front panel, you can get some of them (not all) from >Stooge panels, Inc. Dave Bradley and I make these panels available for MOTM >users. You can find information about the panels at: >http://www.wiseguysynth.com/larry/panel.htm > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Scott Juskiw scott@...
2001-11-13 by mate_stubb@yahoo.com
>>>> Can you elaborate on how the process works for deciding on whether or not to make a Stooge panel for a third party module? I'm curious because next year I hope to add some MOTM compatible modules to the pot. <<<< Well, Our motto is "First, do no harm." By that we mean, "don't do panels for public consumption that will directly compete with Paul's business." We want to ensure that we don't inadvertently kill demand for a genuine MOTM product before it is even released, by making a panel for a third party product. That's why you won't see certain panels that we know would be popular, like the Oakley SuperLadder or MultiLadder. Since Paul has announced that he will be releasing a ladder filter, we choose not to compete there. Next, we look for third party modules that we think would be cool, and which would be popular. Sometimes we poll the list for feedback. Sometimes we make a panel for a DIY project like the Expressionist breakout panel or Larry's voltage shifters. This is somewhat more complex than a third party module, because you have to create pcbs, or at least document things well enough so that others can successfully complete the module. To date we haven't done much of this, because existing third party modules are 'lower hanging fruit', so to speak. As we run out of interesting modules to make conversion panels for, we anticipate mining this ground more often. Finally, there is custom work. It's expensive, but a committed individual can have custom designs made by us. We are doing our first custom panels in this next run. IF the customer desires it, and IF it passes our "non-compete" test, and IF it seems generally useful, we may make these panels available to the general public, thus allowing the original customer to make back some of the cost associated with paying for the originals. We are still feeling our way here. As always, contact Larry or me with any questions about how things work, or if you have specific proposals for panel designs. Moe Dave's Hot Rod MOTM Shop http://www.users.qwest.net/~daveb2
2002-04-07 by J. Larry Hendry
For the record, with one exception (and that person did not order a 410 kit from Todd), everyone said, forget it and move on. That's the kind of response I expected from the people on this list. In the mean time I think you have each received a note from Todd about delivery. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: Tentochi <tentochi@...> The OMS-410 Kits are shipping this week.
2002-04-07 by Tony Karavidas
That's really surprizing actually. I'm the one you're obviously talking about since I "spoke up" on the list, but I did receive a few private emails stating Todd should be held liable for his actions. And if you review the list's emails about the topic, people were pretty pissed off. It's not that I have ANYTHING againt Todd, in fact he is a pretty good customer of mine. The surprise is that you would let someone "get away with it." Imagine if Paul or John, or I took your money then decided to skip out for a long while. What would you say? No biggie? Everyone should be responsible for what the do or don't do. This isn't to single out Todd at all, but if someone takes your money, then doesn't provide the service or product they claimed they would when the money was handed over, when does it end? If it wasn't for a generally decent society based on rules, honor, morals, etc, we'll all just be robbing each other and screwing whomever we could whenever we could. Maybe the "let it slide" attitude is why so many people try and get away with crap. Someone in my neighborhood has been stealing mail and using the info to pay bills electronically. The police, the bank, the credit card companies, AND the person who's had their mail stolen ALL know who is doing it. (A female by the way if you all thought only men do crap like that.) No one is willing to do anything about it! The police won't do crap unless someone files charges; the bank doesn't care if it's under a certain amount; the homeowner who was hit has "protection" for the most part so they want to just forget about it. Anyway I've digressed enough. Tony Karavidas Encore Electronics http://www.EncoreElectronics.com Designers of "The best MIDI to CV converter on the planet." -Keyboard Oct. 1997
> -----Original Message----- > From: J. Larry Hendry [mailto:jlarryh@...] > Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 11:55 AM > To: MOTM List > Subject: Re: [motm] OMS-410 Kits > > > For the record, with one exception (and that person did not order > a 410 kit > from Todd), everyone said, forget it and move on. That's the kind of > response I expected from the people on this list. In the mean > time I think > you have each received a note from Todd about delivery. > > Larry > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tentochi <tentochi@...> > The OMS-410 Kits are shipping this week. > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >
2002-04-07 by mmarsh100
Tony - On the other hand, life sometimes sucks. It's up to us to make it better. Compassion is still a good thing. Mike --- In motm@y..., "Tony Karavidas" <tony@e...> wrote: > That's really surprizing actually. I'm the one you're obviously talking > about since I "spoke up" on the list, but I did receive a few private emails > stating Todd should be held liable for his actions. And if you review the > list's emails about the topic, people were pretty pissed off. > > It's not that I have ANYTHING againt Todd, in fact he is a pretty good > customer of mine. The surprise is that you would let someone "get away with > it." Imagine if Paul or John, or I took your money then decided to skip out > for a long while. What would you say? No biggie? > > Everyone should be responsible for what the do or don't do. This isn't to > single out Todd at all, but if someone takes your money, then doesn't > provide the service or product they claimed they would when the money was > handed over, when does it end? If it wasn't for a generally decent society > based on rules, honor, morals, etc, we'll all just be robbing each other and > screwing whomever we could whenever we could. > > Maybe the "let it slide" attitude is why so many people try and get away > with crap. Someone in my neighborhood has been stealing mail and using the > info to pay bills electronically. The police, the bank, the credit card > companies, AND the person who's had their mail stolen ALL know who is doing > it. (A female by the way if you all thought only men do crap like that.) No > one is willing to do anything about it! The police won't do crap unless > someone files charges; the bank doesn't care if it's under a certain amount; > the homeowner who was hit has "protection" for the most part so they want to > just forget about it. > > Anyway I've digressed enough. > > Tony Karavidas > Encore Electronics > > http://www.EncoreElectronics.com > > Designers of "The best MIDI to CV converter on the planet." - Keyboard Oct. > 1997 > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: J. Larry Hendry [mailto:jlarryh@i...] > > Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 11:55 AM > > To: MOTM List > > Subject: Re: [motm] OMS-410 Kits > > > > > > For the record, with one exception (and that person did not order > > a 410 kit > > from Todd), everyone said, forget it and move on. That's the kind of > > response I expected from the people on this list. In the mean > > time I think > > you have each received a note from Todd about delivery. > > > > Larry > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Tentochi <tentochi@c...> > > The OMS-410 Kits are shipping this week. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > >
2002-04-07 by synth_guru@eml.cc
Gee Tony, Does this mean you will step up and take repsonsibility for all The complete CRAP you have designed for Korg lately ? : ) G
> > Tony Karavidas wrote: > >> That's really surprizing actually. I'm the one you're obviously talking >> about since I "spoke up" on the list, but I did receive a few private >> emails >> stating Todd should be held liable for his actions. And if you review the >> list's emails about the topic, people were pretty pissed off. >> >> It's not that I have ANYTHING againt Todd, in fact he is a pretty good >> customer of mine. The surprise is that you would let someone "get >> away with >> it." Imagine if Paul or John, or I took your money then decided to >> skip out >> for a long while. What would you say? No biggie? >> >> Everyone should be responsible for what the do or don't do. This isn't to >> single out Todd at all, but if someone takes your money, then doesn't >> provide the service or product they claimed they would when the money was >> handed over, when does it end? If it wasn't for a generally decent >> society >> based on rules, honor, morals, etc, we'll all just be robbing each >> other and >> screwing whomever we could whenever we could. >> >> Maybe the "let it slide" attitude is why so many people try and get away >> with crap. Someone in my neighborhood has been stealing mail and >> using the >> info to pay bills electronically. The police, the bank, the credit card >> companies, AND the person who's had their mail stolen ALL know who is >> doing >> it. (A female by the way if you all thought only men do crap like >> that.) No >> one is willing to do anything about it! The police won't do crap unless >> someone files charges; the bank doesn't care if it's under a certain >> amount; >> the homeowner who was hit has "protection" for the most part so they >> want to >> just forget about it. >> >> Anyway I've digressed enough. >> >> Tony Karavidas >> Encore Electronics >> >> http://www.EncoreElectronics.com >> >> Designers of "The best MIDI to CV converter on the planet." -Keyboard >> Oct. >> 1997 >> >> >>
2002-04-07 by Tony Karavidas
It's hard to tell if you were kidding or not. "Crap" was capitalized, but then you put a smiley face at the end???? Sure, I haven't hidden from any product I've designed. Care to name anything in particular? The Oasys PCI card was pretty crappy huh??? Tony
> -----Original Message----- > From: synth_guru@... [mailto:synth_guru@...] > Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 3:32 PM > To: MOTM List > Subject: Re: [motm] OMS-410 Kits > > > > Gee Tony, Does this mean you will step up and take repsonsibility for > all The complete CRAP you have designed for Korg lately ? : ) > G > > > > > Tony Karavidas wrote: > > > >> That's really surprizing actually. I'm the one you're obviously talking > >> about since I "spoke up" on the list, but I did receive a few private > >> emails > >> stating Todd should be held liable for his actions. And if you > review the > >> list's emails about the topic, people were pretty pissed off. > >> > >> It's not that I have ANYTHING againt Todd, in fact he is a pretty good > >> customer of mine. The surprise is that you would let someone "get > >> away with > >> it." Imagine if Paul or John, or I took your money then decided to > >> skip out > >> for a long while. What would you say? No biggie? > >> > >> Everyone should be responsible for what the do or don't do. > This isn't to > >> single out Todd at all, but if someone takes your money, then doesn't > >> provide the service or product they claimed they would when > the money was > >> handed over, when does it end? If it wasn't for a generally decent > >> society > >> based on rules, honor, morals, etc, we'll all just be robbing each > >> other and > >> screwing whomever we could whenever we could. > >> > >> Maybe the "let it slide" attitude is why so many people try > and get away > >> with crap. Someone in my neighborhood has been stealing mail and > >> using the > >> info to pay bills electronically. The police, the bank, the credit card > >> companies, AND the person who's had their mail stolen ALL know who is > >> doing > >> it. (A female by the way if you all thought only men do crap like > >> that.) No > >> one is willing to do anything about it! The police won't do crap unless > >> someone files charges; the bank doesn't care if it's under a certain > >> amount; > >> the homeowner who was hit has "protection" for the most part so they > >> want to > >> just forget about it. > >> > >> Anyway I've digressed enough. > >> > >> Tony Karavidas > >> Encore Electronics > >> > >> http://www.EncoreElectronics.com > >> > >> Designers of "The best MIDI to CV converter on the planet." -Keyboard > >> Oct. > >> 1997 > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >
2002-04-07 by Tony Karavidas
I agree, life sometimes does suck and compassion is necessary. However, the meaning of compassion is "deep sympathy" or "pity." That's not what I was talking about. You can show someone compassion, but still hold them responsible in the long run. Compassion for one's personal life might allow someone to get away with something (for a while) that wouldn't otherwise be tolerated, but there are limits. You might have "compassion" for a bank robber because he is poor and trying to feed his kids, but what about when he kills your wife because she didn't want to give up her diamond ring? The person's actions are the overriding factor, and always should be. I think Todd learned that the silent treatment doesn't work. Hopefully if there is every trama in his life again, he will remember how this affected a lot of people and if he is in the midst of dealing with people (like everyone is most of the time) he will try harder to keep those relationships and activites going. I know of several engineers that are very poor at people skills. I would say they are smarter than me (which isn't too terribly difficult) be I am the one that always has a steady stream of work. Why? Because I don't drop the ball (very often) Yes, I mess up once in a while, but to most companies, I communicate very well even when things aren't going great. (Try telling you boss you missed yet another "deadline") Shit happens (I'm going through a bunch of it right now actually) and for me that's why some of my projects are extremely delayed. However, I try and be as truthful as I can (with whatever knowledge I have obtained at the time I make a particular statement) and people APPRECIATE that. I really hope Todd sails through the stormy weather he's had recently. That's all... Tony
> -----Original Message----- > From: mmarsh100 [mailto:mmarsh@...] > Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 3:13 PM > To: motm@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [motm] Re: OMS-410 Kits > > > Tony - > > On the other hand, life sometimes sucks. It's up to us to make it > better. Compassion is still a good thing. > > Mike > > --- In motm@y..., "Tony Karavidas" <tony@e...> wrote: > > That's really surprizing actually. I'm the one you're obviously > talking > > about since I "spoke up" on the list, but I did receive a few > private emails > > stating Todd should be held liable for his actions. And if you > review the > > list's emails about the topic, people were pretty pissed off. > > > > It's not that I have ANYTHING againt Todd, in fact he is a pretty > good > > customer of mine. The surprise is that you would let someone "get > away with > > it." Imagine if Paul or John, or I took your money then decided to > skip out > > for a long while. What would you say? No biggie? > > > > Everyone should be responsible for what the do or don't do. This > isn't to > > single out Todd at all, but if someone takes your money, then > doesn't > > provide the service or product they claimed they would when the > money was > > handed over, when does it end? If it wasn't for a generally decent > society > > based on rules, honor, morals, etc, we'll all just be robbing each > other and > > screwing whomever we could whenever we could. > > > > Maybe the "let it slide" attitude is why so many people try and get > away > > with crap. Someone in my neighborhood has been stealing mail and > using the > > info to pay bills electronically. The police, the bank, the credit > card > > companies, AND the person who's had their mail stolen ALL know who > is doing > > it. (A female by the way if you all thought only men do crap like > that.) No > > one is willing to do anything about it! The police won't do crap > unless > > someone files charges; the bank doesn't care if it's under a > certain amount; > > the homeowner who was hit has "protection" for the most part so > they want to > > just forget about it. > > > > Anyway I've digressed enough. > > > > Tony Karavidas > > Encore Electronics > > > > http://www.EncoreElectronics.com > > > > Designers of "The best MIDI to CV converter on the planet." - > Keyboard Oct. > > 1997 > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: J. Larry Hendry [mailto:jlarryh@i...] > > > Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 11:55 AM > > > To: MOTM List > > > Subject: Re: [motm] OMS-410 Kits > > > > > > > > > For the record, with one exception (and that person did not order > > > a 410 kit > > > from Todd), everyone said, forget it and move on. That's the > kind of > > > response I expected from the people on this list. In the mean > > > time I think > > > you have each received a note from Todd about delivery. > > > > > > Larry > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Tentochi <tentochi@c...> > > > The OMS-410 Kits are shipping this week. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >