MOTM

is there any quick way to get motm levels down to instrument levels? i'm
playing with a guy next week who wants me to run through 4 mesa 400+
bass amps,  i want to make sure i'm not going to blow the preamps out on
his amps and i don't feel like lugging my PA over either. I don't have
the mixer yet and my smallest mixing board is 36 channels (it doesn't
travel all that well) would tying a resistor between hot and ground on
the final output do any damage to my modules? let me know if anyone has
any ideas. -nate

Go to radio shack and buy their most expensive inline 1/4 inch jack and plug. You'll also need about a foot of coax, some heat shrink tubing, and a couple of 1/8W resistors. Make a short "extension cord" but use the two resistors to make an attenuator in the jack end of the cord. Use heat shrink tubing to insulate the attenuator from the metal barrel and to provide a little strain relief. Plug the extension cords into the amp and MOTM into the extension cords.

John Speth
Molectron Detector, Inc.
http://www.molectron.com
mailto:johns@...

> is there any quick way to get motm levels down to instrument
> levels? i'm
> playing with a guy next week who wants me to run through 4 mesa 400+
> bass amps, i want to make sure i'm not going to blow the
> preamps out on
> his amps and i don't feel like lugging my PA over either. I don't have
> the mixer yet and my smallest mixing board is 36 channels (it doesn't
> travel all that well) would tying a resistor between hot and ground on
> the final output do any damage to my modules? let me know if
> anyone has
> any ideas. -nate

RE: motm levelsThere is NO NEED to build 'output attenuators' for MOTM!

a) Use the input level of the '420 or '440. Just set the IN level to like 3.
That will reduce the
output signal to about +2dBu. In other words: if your patch has a '420 or
'440 in the signal path,
just crank the gain down in the filter.

b) use the CV MOD pot on the '110. This can be thought of as an overall
'volume' control. If the '110
is the last module in the signal path, try setting CV MOD to like 4.

Paul S.

I tried the 420/440 trick which worked great until i deafened everyone by
accidentally tweaking the resonance knob into feedback range, that level is
still 10v p/p. I thought about turning down the CV MOD on the 110, but
doesn't that act like an FM input on a filter or oscillator? if i
attenutate the CV going into the VCA, won't it change the characteristics
of the envelope? instead of having a usable voltage range of 0-5v, i'd be
dropping it to 0-1.5v. i could be wrong, however, that's why i'm asking you
kind people. -nate







>
>RE: motm levelsThere is NO NEED to build 'output attenuators' for MOTM!
>
>
>
>a) Use the input level of the '420 or '440. Just set the IN level to like 3.
>
>That will reduce the
>
>output signal to about +2dBu. In other words: if your patch has a '420 or
>
>'440 in the signal path,
>
>just crank the gain down in the filter.
>
>
>
>b) use the CV MOD pot on the '110. This can be thought of as an overall
>
>'volume' control. If the '110
>
>is the last module in the signal path, try setting CV MOD to like 4.
>
>
>
>Paul S.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Um, I might have sent this to Nathan already, but my former ISP 
dumped me, so if I did and he replied, I didn't get a message.

Wouldn't it be easiest just to plug into the FX loop returns of the 
Mesa 400+ amps?  Those are already set for line levels, and (I'm not 
sure about the 400+) most of the Mesa amps I've seen even have an 
input attenuator at the FX return in case the MOTM output is still 
too hot.

    -Doug

--- In motm@y..., Nathan Alan Hunsicker <nate@e...> wrote:
> is there any quick way to get motm levels down to instrument 
levels? i'm
> playing with a guy next week who wants me to run through 4 mesa 400+
> bass amps,  i want to make sure i'm not going to blow the preamps 
out on
> his amps and i don't feel like lugging my PA over either. I don't 
have
> the mixer yet and my smallest mixing board is 36 channels (it 
doesn't
> travel all that well) would tying a resistor between hot and ground 
on
> the final output do any damage to my modules? let me know if anyone 
has
> any ideas. -nate

tjhanx for the suggestion, i'll give it a try tonight, i know theres a mix
control on the back of the amps for the loop, i'm just hoping it's a post
fader vs. a pre-fader. my other concern would be the way the amps are daisy
chained (slave out to power amp in) hopefully this will be a global control
and limit the levels on all amps, not just the one i'm plugged into. thanks
to everyone for all the help/suggestions. -nate
>
>Um, I might have sent this to Nathan already, but my former ISP
>
>dumped me, so if I did and he replied, I didn't get a message.
>
>
>
>Wouldn't it be easiest just to plug into the FX loop returns of the
>
>Mesa 400+ amps?  Those are already set for line levels, and (I'm not
>
>sure about the 400+) most of the Mesa amps I've seen even have an
>
>input attenuator at the FX return in case the MOTM output is still
>
>too hot.
>
>
>
>    -Doug
>
>
>
>--- In motm@y..., Nathan Alan Hunsicker <nate@e...> wrote:
>
>> is there any quick way to get motm levels down to instrument
>
>levels? i'm
>
>> playing with a guy next week who wants me to run through 4 mesa 400+
>
>> bass amps,  i want to make sure i'm not going to blow the preamps
>
>out on
>
>> his amps and i don't feel like lugging my PA over either. I don't
>
>have
>
>> the mixer yet and my smallest mixing board is 36 channels (it
>
>doesn't
>
>> travel all that well) would tying a resistor between hot and ground
>
>on
>
>> the final output do any damage to my modules? let me know if anyone
>
>has
>
>> any ideas. -nate
>
>
>
>
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