At 10:31 AM -0500 09/21/01, J. Larry Hendry wrote: > >It seems to me that when there was significant discussion on the list >concerning a pre-amp that it was not so much about the characteristics of a >pre-amp as it was just people wanting to match line levels with their MOTM >stuff. As you know, line level already matches MOTM, as MOTM is about 14dBu. I use line level with my MOTM all the time and have had absolutely no problems. >People want to hook up their guitars and microphones and line levels >synths and such. So, maybe what we need is something simple in a 1U >>package to do just that. I think that was the idea behind a separate >>preamp. Then, one input can be optimized for guitar impedance, one for >>line level signals and one for guitar signals since each signal has its >own >unique need. This is true. A mic pre and a direct box for a guitar are two different things. As such, each of these devices has different expectations as to the features available. A mic pre should have balanced XLR inputs and phantom power. An active direct box can often has overdrive. Nevermind features like high-pass filters, ground lift, and variable impedance. Considering the variety of devices on the market, many of which are very application specific or have a distinct sonic characteristic, no one pre-amp can be all things to all people, and in all likelihood, most MOTM owners have already chosen their favorites. >Certainly anyone in need of simply boosting their line level or guitar >>level signal up to MOTM level could DIY a simple op amp circuit with gain >>if they are into DIY at all. I agree, although more importantly, anyone who owns a guitar or microphone should already have gear to get the signal up to line-livel. >I am not saying an envelope follower should not have a pre-amp. But, I can >see the logic for a stand alone unit with more features (mic balanced >>input, phantom power, specific guitar impedance match input) than you >would >find on a simple pre-amp added to another module function would >support. I think adding enough input gain, perhaps wired so that more gain would be a lower input impedance, would be a quick solution for those who want to plug directly into the envelope follower. However, I do not know if there is knob space. I believe as it stands now, the envelope follower is a 2U module. Another option would be to develop two 1U modules: an envelope follower/compressor based on THAT technology, and a separate window comparator module with a gate output. I remember Paul S. saying something to the effect that he isn't out to compete with Manley or Avalon, and I agree with him. I'm not doubting his incredible skill as a designer, it's just that competing products at that level often cost over $1000. As it stands now, each individual MOTM module is higher-quality and a better value than any other product on the market that performs a similar function. If MOTM comes out with a pre-amp, this will no longer be true, as using a better, albeit more expensive, pre-amp from another manufacturer will always be an option.
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Re: [motm] Re: pre-amp (was: Getting back to 'normal')
2001-09-21 by mark@indole.net
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