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Emax won't boot anymore

2012-07-08 by krikorola

Hi
my emax won't boot anymore

it stays on this state

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/826/lehavre2012070800207.jpg/

once it gave me the CRC DATA message.

i tried with two different floppy disk

do you think it's the floppy drive?
thks

Re: [emax] Emax won't boot anymore

2012-07-08 by Ted Summers

Reseat all the connectors and socketed IC's on the logic board.

That is where I would start.

On Jul 8, 2012, at 2:42 PM, krikorola wrote:

Hi
my emax won't boot anymore

it stays on this state

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/826/lehavre2012070800207.jpg/

once it gave me the CRC DATA message.

i tried with two different floppy disk

do you think it's the floppy drive?
thks





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Re: [emax] Emax won't boot anymore

2012-07-08 by jammie

either bad floppy disk or the disk drive try using a floppy drive dry disk cleaner

also what disks are you using 
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: krikorola 
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 10:42 PM
  Subject: [emax] Emax won't boot anymore


    
  Hi
  my emax won't boot anymore

  it stays on this state

  http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/826/lehavre2012070800207.jpg/

  once it gave me the CRC DATA message.

  i tried with two different floppy disk

  do you think it's the floppy drive?
  thks



  

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Re: [emax] Emax won't boot anymore

2012-07-09 by krikor kouchian

Thanks i'm gonna try that.

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2012/7/9 jammie <jammie.emma@...>

> **
>
>
> either bad floppy disk or the disk drive try using a floppy drive dry disk
> cleaner
>
> also what disks are you using
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: krikorola
> To: emax@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 10:42 PM
> Subject: [emax] Emax won't boot anymore
>
> Hi
> my emax won't boot anymore
>
> it stays on this state
>
> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/826/lehavre2012070800207.jpg/
>
> once it gave me the CRC DATA message.
>
> i tried with two different floppy disk
>
> do you think it's the floppy drive?
> thks
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>  
>


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Re: [emax] Emax won't boot anymore

2012-07-09 by krikor kouchian

i'm using a DD disk and i tried whith a HD with a sticker on the HD hole


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2012/7/9 jammie <jammie.emma@...>

> **
>
>
> either bad floppy disk or the disk drive try using a floppy drive dry disk
> cleaner
>
> also what disks are you using
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: krikorola
> To: emax@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 10:42 PM
> Subject: [emax] Emax won't boot anymore
>
> Hi
> my emax won't boot anymore
>
> it stays on this state
>
> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/826/lehavre2012070800207.jpg/
>
> once it gave me the CRC DATA message.
>
> i tried with two different floppy disk
>
> do you think it's the floppy drive?
> thks
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>  
>


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Re: [emax] Emax won't boot anymore

2012-07-09 by krikor kouchian

the weird thing is that i didn't move the unit itself, i already check that
before i first ran it 2 month ago (it had been off for years)
i will do it again
Thanks


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2012/7/9 Ted Summers <djtbs1@...>

> Reseat all the connectors and socketed IC's on the logic board.
>
> That is where I would start.
>
> On Jul 8, 2012, at 2:42 PM, krikorola wrote:
>
> Hi
> my emax won't boot anymore
>
> it stays on this state
>
> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/826/lehavre2012070800207.jpg/
>
> once it gave me the CRC DATA message.
>
> i tried with two different floppy disk
>
> do you think it's the floppy drive?
> thks
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
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>
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Re: [emax] Emax won't boot anymore

2012-07-09 by krikor kouchian

I forgot to mention that it does exactly the same thing without any floppy
in the drive.

Le lundi 9 juillet 2012, jammie <jammie.emma@....uk> a �crit :
>
>
> either bad floppy disk or the disk drive try using a floppy drive dry
disk cleaner
>
> also what disks are you using
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: krikorola
> To: emax@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 10:42 PM
> Subject: [emax] Emax won't boot anymore
>
> Hi
> my emax won't boot anymore
>
> it stays on this state
>
> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/826/lehavre2012070800207.jpg/
>
> once it gave me the CRC DATA message.
>
> i tried with two different floppy disk
>
> do you think it's the floppy drive?
> thks
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> 

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Re: [emax] Emax won't boot anymore

2012-07-09 by jammie

have you disconected the analog board as thats what you get when you put the 
cable back the wrong way

its a analog board problem

your not even getting to boot status

do what ted says re seat the chips in there sockets

and make sure the pinone on the analog board is lined up with pin 1 on the 
cable from the main board
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "krikor kouchian" <krikorola@...>
To: <emax@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: [emax] Emax won't boot anymore


I forgot to mention that it does exactly the same thing without any floppy
in the drive.

Le lundi 9 juillet 2012, jammie <jammie.emma@...> a \ufffdcrit :
>
>
> either bad floppy disk or the disk drive try using a floppy drive dry
disk cleaner
>
> also what disks are you using
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: krikorola
> To: emax@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 10:42 PM
> Subject: [emax] Emax won't boot anymore
>
> Hi
> my emax won't boot anymore
>
> it stays on this state
>
> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/826/lehavre2012070800207.jpg/
>
> once it gave me the CRC DATA message.
>
> i tried with two different floppy disk
>
> do you think it's the floppy drive?
> thks
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

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Re: Emax won't boot anymore

2012-07-09 by cheju_99

I have exactly the same fault, check the power supply or any capacitor exploited, otherwise you have a logig issue with some IC, hopefully not the main processor, Pals or the TCU. Forgot to mention that you could check any "cold soldering" in the board.
suerte!


--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, krikor kouchian <krikorola@...> wrote:
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>
> I forgot to mention that it does exactly the same thing without any floppy
> in the drive.
> 
> Le lundi 9 juillet 2012, jammie <jammie.emma@...> a écrit :
> >
> >
> > either bad floppy disk or the disk drive try using a floppy drive dry
> disk cleaner
> >
> > also what disks are you using
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: krikorola
> > To: emax@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 10:42 PM
> > Subject: [emax] Emax won't boot anymore
> >
> > Hi
> > my emax won't boot anymore
> >
> > it stays on this state
> >
> > http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/826/lehavre2012070800207.jpg/
> >
> > once it gave me the CRC DATA message.
> >
> > i tried with two different floppy disk
> >
> > do you think it's the floppy drive?
> > thks
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > 
> 
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Re: Emax won't boot anymore

2012-07-09 by krikor kouchian

thank you Cheju,
i'm gonna go through the capacitor check.
i hope it's not an IC which would be a real pain in the ass to fix.


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Re: Emax won't boot anymore

2012-07-09 by krikor kouchian

from what i read in the service manual, Cheju is right, it could be either
the CPU, the Echip/MCL, or the timer.
But the fact that the LED and display go crazy is directly related to the
main CPU, from the block diagram info.

Can this part be replaced? i have the feeling it can't

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Re: [emax] Emax won't boot anymore

2012-07-09 by krikor kouchian

i'm afraid the cpu is dead as the led and display is directly controlled by
it:

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8782/lehavre2012070900215.jpg

i checked all ribbons, everything seems fine, sometimes it starts up as
usual but won't access the floppy, sometimes it starts up as in the first
picture i posted yesterday.


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Re: [emax] Emax won't boot anymore

2012-07-09 by Ted Summers

You have bad connections to the IC's in the board, IMO.


On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 11:46 AM, krikor kouchian <krikorola@...>wrote:

> **
>
>
> i'm afraid the cpu is dead as the led and display is directly controlled by
> it:
>
> http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8782/lehavre2012070900215.jpg
>
> i checked all ribbons, everything seems fine, sometimes it starts up as
> usual but won't access the floppy, sometimes it starts up as in the first
> picture i posted yesterday.
>
> http://www.krikor.fr
> +33632199413
>
> bookings:
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Re: [emax] Emax won't boot anymore

2012-07-09 by krikor kouchian

I'm gonna test voltages and the IC connections tommorow

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2012/7/9 Ted Summers <djtbs1@...>

> You have bad connections to the IC's in the board, IMO.
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 11:46 AM, krikor kouchian <krikorola@...
> >wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > i'm afraid the cpu is dead as the led and display is directly controlled
> by
> > it:
> >
> > http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8782/lehavre2012070900215.jpg
> >
> > i checked all ribbons, everything seems fine, sometimes it starts up as
> > usual but won't access the floppy, sometimes it starts up as in the first
> > picture i posted yesterday.
> >
> > http://www.krikor.fr
> > +33632199413
> >
> > bookings:
> > France/Suisse/Benelux: fanyktdj@...
> > World: laetitia@...
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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>
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>
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Re: [emax] Emax won't boot anymore

2012-07-09 by jammie

i agree with ted

send it to ted or send it tome and we can diagnos it
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From: "Ted Summers" <djtbs1@...>
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Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: [emax] Emax won't boot anymore


> You have bad connections to the IC's in the board, IMO.
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 11:46 AM, krikor kouchian 
> <krikorola@...>wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> i'm afraid the cpu is dead as the led and display is directly controlled 
>> by
>> it:
>>
>> http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8782/lehavre2012070900215.jpg
>>
>> i checked all ribbons, everything seems fine, sometimes it starts up as
>> usual but won't access the floppy, sometimes it starts up as in the first
>> picture i posted yesterday.
>>
>> http://www.krikor.fr
>> +33632199413
>>
>> bookings:
>> France/Suisse/Benelux: fanyktdj@...
>> World: laetitia@...
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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>
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>
>

Re: [emax] Emax won't boot anymore

2012-07-09 by krikor kouchian

Where are you guys located?
i will check the voltage on the CPU pin tomorrow, if the IC don't address
correctly then it might be related to a bad capacitor.
Thks
K

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2012/7/9 jammie <jammie.emma@...>

> **
>
>
> i agree with ted
>
> send it to ted or send it tome and we can diagnos it
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ted Summers" <djtbs1@...>
> To: <emax@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 7:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [emax] Emax won't boot anymore
>
> > You have bad connections to the IC's in the board, IMO.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 11:46 AM, krikor kouchian
> > <krikorola@gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> >> **
> >>
> >>
> >> i'm afraid the cpu is dead as the led and display is directly
> controlled
> >> by
> >> it:
> >>
> >> http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8782/lehavre2012070900215.jpg
> >>
> >> i checked all ribbons, everything seems fine, sometimes it starts up as
> >> usual but won't access the floppy, sometimes it starts up as in the
> first
> >> picture i posted yesterday.
> >>
> >> http://www.krikor.fr
> >> +33632199413
> >>
> >> bookings:
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> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
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> >
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> >
> >
> >
>
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Re: [emax] Emax won't boot anymore

2012-07-09 by jammie

im in uk

ted is in usa
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To: <emax@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 9:56 PM
Subject: Re: [emax] Emax won't boot anymore


> Where are you guys located?
> i will check the voltage on the CPU pin tomorrow, if the IC don't address
> correctly then it might be related to a bad capacitor.
> Thks
> K
>
> http://www.krikor.fr
> +33632199413
>
> bookings:
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>
> 2012/7/9 jammie <jammie.emma@...>
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> i agree with ted
>>
>> send it to ted or send it tome and we can diagnos it
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ted Summers" <djtbs1@...>
>> To: <emax@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 7:54 PM
>> Subject: Re: [emax] Emax won't boot anymore
>>
>> > You have bad connections to the IC's in the board, IMO.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 11:46 AM, krikor kouchian
>> > <krikorola@...>wrote:
>> >
>> >> **
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> i'm afraid the cpu is dead as the led and display is directly
>> controlled
>> >> by
>> >> it:
>> >>
>> >> http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8782/lehavre2012070900215.jpg
>> >>
>> >> i checked all ribbons, everything seems fine, sometimes it starts up 
>> >> as
>> >> usual but won't access the floppy, sometimes it starts up as in the
>> first
>> >> picture i posted yesterday.
>> >>
>> >> http://www.krikor.fr
>> >> +33632199413
>> >>
>> >> bookings:
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>> >
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Re: [emax] Emax won't boot anymore

2012-07-09 by krikor kouchian

Archh I'm in france, if i can't fix i will ask a tech friend of mine to
look at it
Thanks a lot

Le lundi 9 juillet 2012, jammie <jammie.emma@blueyonder.co.uk> a �crit :
>
>
> im in uk
>
> ted is in usa
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "krikor kouchian" <krikorola@...>
> To: <emax@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 9:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [emax] Emax won't boot anymore
>
>> Where are you guys located?
>> i will check the voltage on the CPU pin tomorrow, if the IC don't address
>> correctly then it might be related to a bad capacitor.
>> Thks
>> K
>>
>> http://www.krikor.fr
>> +33632199413
>>
>> bookings:
>> France/Suisse/Benelux: fanyktdj@gmail.com
>> World: laetitia@...
>>
>>
>> 2012/7/9 jammie <jammie.emma@...>
>>
>>> **
>>>
>>>
>>> i agree with ted
>>>
>>> send it to ted or send it tome and we can diagnos it
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Ted Summers" <djtbs1@...>
>>> To: <emax@yahoogroups.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 7:54 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [emax] Emax won't boot anymore
>>>
>>> > You have bad connections to the IC's in the board, IMO.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 11:46 AM, krikor kouchian
>>> > <krikorola@...>wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> **
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> i'm afraid the cpu is dead as the led and display is directly
>>> controlled
>>> >> by
>>> >> it:
>>> >>
>>> >> http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8782/lehavre2012070900215.jpg
>>> >>
>>> >> i checked all ribbons, everything seems fine, sometimes it starts up
>>> >> as
>>> >> usual but won't access the floppy, sometimes it starts up as in the
>>> first
>>> >> picture i posted yesterday.
>>> >>
>>> >> http://www.krikor.fr
>>> >> +33632199413
>>> >>
>>> >> bookings:
>>> >> France/Suisse/Benelux: fanyktdj@...
>>> >> World: laetitia@...
>>> >>
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>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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>>> >
>>> > Emax and Emax II User's Group Website
>>> >
>>> > http://www.silveriafamily.comYahoo! Groups Links
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: [emax] Emax won't boot anymore

2012-07-09 by krikor kouchian

Archh I'm in france, if i can't fix it i will ask a tech friend of mine to
look at it
Thanks a lot

Le lundi 9 juillet 2012, jammie <jammie.emma@blueyonder.co.uk> a �crit :
>
>
> im in uk
>
> ted is in usa
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "krikor kouchian" <krikorola@...>
> To: <emax@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 9:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [emax] Emax won't boot anymore
>
>> Where are you guys located?
>> i will check the voltage on the CPU pin tomorrow, if the IC don't address
>> correctly then it might be related to a bad capacitor.
>> Thks
>> K
>>
>> http://www.krikor.fr
>> +33632199413
>>
>> bookings:
>> France/Suisse/Benelux: fanyktdj@gmail.com
>> World: laetitia@...
>>
>>
>> 2012/7/9 jammie <jammie.emma@...>
>>
>>> **
>>>
>>>
>>> i agree with ted
>>>
>>> send it to ted or send it tome and we can diagnos it
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Ted Summers" <djtbs1@...>
>>> To: <emax@yahoogroups.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 7:54 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [emax] Emax won't boot anymore
>>>
>>> > You have bad connections to the IC's in the board, IMO.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 11:46 AM, krikor kouchian
>>> > <krikorola@...>wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> **
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> i'm afraid the cpu is dead as the led and display is directly
>>> controlled
>>> >> by
>>> >> it:
>>> >>
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>>> >> i checked all ribbons, everything seems fine, sometimes it starts up
>>> >> as
>>> >> usual but won't access the floppy, sometimes it starts up as in the
>>> first
>>> >> picture i posted yesterday.
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Re: [emax] Emax won't boot anymore

2012-07-09 by krikor kouchian

Archh I'm in france, if i can't fix it i will ask a tech friend of mine to
look at it
Thanks a lot

Le lundi 9 juillet 2012, jammie <jammie.emma@blueyonder.co.uk> a �crit :
>
>
> im in uk
>
> ted is in usa
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "krikor kouchian" <krikorola@...>
> To: <emax@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 9:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [emax] Emax won't boot anymore
>
>> Where are you guys located?
>> i will check the voltage on the CPU pin tomorrow, if the IC don't address
>> correctly then it might be related to a bad capacitor.
>> Thks
>> K
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>> 2012/7/9 jammie <jammie.emma@...>
>>
>>> **
>>>
>>>
>>> i agree with ted
>>>
>>> send it to ted or send it tome and we can diagnos it
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Ted Summers" <djtbs1@...>
>>> To: <emax@yahoogroups.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 7:54 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [emax] Emax won't boot anymore
>>>
>>> > You have bad connections to the IC's in the board, IMO.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 11:46 AM, krikor kouchian
>>> > <krikorola@...>wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> **
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> i'm afraid the cpu is dead as the led and display is directly
>>> controlled
>>> >> by
>>> >> it:
>>> >>
>>> >> http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8782/lehavre2012070900215.jpg
>>> >>
>>> >> i checked all ribbons, everything seems fine, sometimes it starts up
>>> >> as
>>> >> usual but won't access the floppy, sometimes it starts up as in the
>>> first
>>> >> picture i posted yesterday.
>>> >>
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>>> >> +33632199413
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Re: Emax won't boot anymore

2012-07-10 by narfman96

I just fixed a DX7II-FD main board for Jon Morgan. Same symptoms floppy drive errors then all of a sudden it would not boot anymore. The floppy disk controller chip was bad. If you can find a WD1772PH controller chip (Ebay) try it and you may be back in business. This FDC chip can interrupt the CPU and prevent it from booting.

--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, krikor kouchian <krikorola@...> wrote:
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> from what i read in the service manual, Cheju is right, it could be either
> the CPU, the Echip/MCL, or the timer.
> But the fact that the LED and display go crazy is directly related to the
> main CPU, from the block diagram info.
> 
> Can this part be replaced? i have the feeling it can't
> 
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Re: [emax] Re: Emax won't boot anymore

2012-07-10 by jammie

i have some spare floppy controler chips
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: narfman96 
  To: emax@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 1:59 PM
  Subject: [emax] Re: Emax won't boot anymore


    
  I just fixed a DX7II-FD main board for Jon Morgan. Same symptoms floppy drive errors then all of a sudden it would not boot anymore. The floppy disk controller chip was bad. If you can find a WD1772PH controller chip (Ebay) try it and you may be back in business. This FDC chip can interrupt the CPU and prevent it from booting.

  --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, krikor kouchian <krikorola@...> wrote:
  >
  > from what i read in the service manual, Cheju is right, it could be either
  > the CPU, the Echip/MCL, or the timer.
  > But the fact that the LED and display go crazy is directly related to the
  > main CPU, from the block diagram info.
  > 
  > Can this part be replaced? i have the feeling it can't
  > 
  > http://www.krikor.fr
  > +33632199413
  > 
  > bookings:
  > France/Suisse/Benelux: fanyktdj@...
  > World: laetitia@...
  > 
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Re: [emax] Re: Emax won't boot anymore

2012-07-10 by krikor kouchian

Sweet, would you sell me one?

2012/7/10, jammie <jammie.emma@...>:
> i have some spare floppy controler chips
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: narfman96
>   To: emax@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 1:59 PM
>   Subject: [emax] Re: Emax won't boot anymore
>
>
>
>   I just fixed a DX7II-FD main board for Jon Morgan. Same symptoms floppy
> drive errors then all of a sudden it would not boot anymore. The floppy disk
> controller chip was bad. If you can find a WD1772PH controller chip (Ebay)
> try it and you may be back in business. This FDC chip can interrupt the CPU
> and prevent it from booting.
>
>   --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, krikor kouchian <krikorola@...> wrote:
>   >
>   > from what i read in the service manual, Cheju is right, it could be
> either
>   > the CPU, the Echip/MCL, or the timer.
>   > But the fact that the LED and display go crazy is directly related to
> the
>   > main CPU, from the block diagram info.
>   >
>   > Can this part be replaced? i have the feeling it can't
>   >
>   > http://www.krikor.fr
>   > +33632199413
>   >
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Re: Emax won't boot anymore

2012-07-17 by krikorola

I can't find the value of two caps on the PSU board.

anybody knows?

there are the ones on the pictures here:

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/3565/img2012071700242.jpg

and

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/9669/lehavre2012071000230.jpg


Also i don't understand what it being referred as the "CS PAL" in the trim and diagnostic manual, page 9 problem: No Boot -> Bad CS PAL -> Replace CS PAL

thanks
K

--- In emax@yahoogroups.com, krikor kouchian <krikorola@...> wrote:
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> from what i read in the service manual, Cheju is right, it could be either
> the CPU, the Echip/MCL, or the timer.
> But the fact that the LED and display go crazy is directly related to the
> main CPU, from the block diagram info.
> 
> Can this part be replaced? i have the feeling it can't
> 
> http://www.krikor.fr
> +33632199413
> 
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