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2003-10-02 by hartmaan2003
What is it about the emax that gives it such a powerful sound? I have been playing with the synth patches (Das Synth and FM synth) and have to say that they sound way more impressive than my D50, TX7 or M1 synths!Are the synth patches samples or SE created internally? Thought this may generate some discussion instead of the usual problems and repairs :-)
2003-10-02 by Charles Hopper
ive noticed that too, i often got bored of programming my D50 and other stuff, when i did id plug them into my emax2 which seems to give a whole new dimension to the patch id created on the synths making them sound pretty dull and lifeless in comparison (why is this sounding like a shampoo ad?)Im sure its to do with the filters and the sample rate, ive never played an emax1 so i cant compare filters to my emax 2, the D50 and other synths will probably get swapped/sold for other synths, infact due to space issues caused by a new members of the family, the D50 has gone to a mates house, most of my amps/guitars and synth stuff is in my dads garage and ive rammed all my clothes into 2 draws so that i can have a cupboard for my emax2 which i'll not be letting fester in a garage somewhere! Anthony --- hartmaan2003 <peter@...> wrote: --------------------------------- What is it about the emax that gives it such a powerful sound? I have been playing with the synth patches (Das Synth and FM synth) and have to say that they sound way more impressive than my D50, TX7 or M1 synths!Are the synth patches samples or SE created internally? Thought this may generate some discussion instead of the usual problems and repairs :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Emax and Emax II User's Group Website http://www.silveriafamily.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com
2003-10-02 by John Silveria
To begin with the there is the great work done on the filter and the
A/D converters. Two of the synths you happened to mention are known
for their terribly weak sound that had to be bolstered by adding
onboard effects, the M1 and D50. The TX7, of course, is FM which tends
to be very brittle and harsh (which can be advantageous) and was never
designed for making warm analog sounds.
The reality behind professional sample banks being so impressive is in
the mix. Unlike most instruments where you enhance the sound
after/during recording with compression, eq, and effects with a
sampler you can do that all in advance and sample only the final
result. The best example of this is drum loops. Even in a
non-recording enviroment drum loops always sound better because they
already have been processed in a way to give them great dynamics.
Where as just sequencing raw drum samples, especially if you don't
have expensive mics, compressors, limiters, etc. to create the samples
with leaves you with samples that tend to have no punch or presence.
On one of my many trips to E-mu back in the 90's I got to go into a
sound lab where someone created some of the factory presets. He had at
his disposal a great project studio with great monitors, mixer, and
outboard gear all of which went into making great samples. Add that
with a knowledge of the sampler itself that few user's have and you
are going to end up with banks of samples that show off the Emax at
it's best. It's an art not many can master. You need to have a good
studio engineering skills combined with patience and in depth sampler
knowledge.
On 2 Oct 2003 at 3:42, hartmaan2003 spoke unto me:
> What is it about the emax that gives it such a powerful sound?
>
> I have been playing with the synth patches (Das Synth and FM synth)
> and have to say that they sound way more impressive than my D50, TX7
> or M1 synths!Are the synth patches samples or SE created internally?
>
> Thought this may generate some discussion instead of the usual
> problems and repairs :-)
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http://www.silveriafamily.com2003-10-02 by capricorn
the first ensoniq sampler the 12 bit mirage and the rack versions the DMS-1 and DMS-8 (which were used extensively by jimmy jam and terry lewis on janet jacksons first album) also sound very powerful as well as the very first emu 8 bit emulators, I and II ... perhaps its the lower bit resolution ??
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Subject: [emax] Power of Emax
What is it about the emax that gives it such a powerful sound?
I have been playing with the synth patches (Das Synth and FM synth)
and have to say that they sound way more impressive than my D50, TX7
or M1 synths!Are the synth patches samples or SE created internally?
Thought this may generate some discussion instead of the usual
problems and repairs :-)
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2003-10-02 by hartmaan2003
Thanks John for your informative reply...I never thought about the fact that these Factory samples would be that well produced. Seems so obvious really. I use Emagic Logic and have managed to get those other synths to sound nearly decent, but like you say with compression, exciting, delays, reverbs etc ;-) Thanks again for the post Peter --- In emax@yahoogroups.com, "John Silveria" <emaxjs@s...> wrote: > To begin with the there is the great work done on the filter and the > A/D converters. Two of the synths you happened to mention are known > for their terribly weak sound that had to be bolstered by adding > onboard effects, the M1 and D50. The TX7, of course, is FM which tends > to be very brittle and harsh (which can be advantageous) and was never > designed for making warm analog sounds. > > The reality behind professional sample banks being so impressive is in > the mix. Unlike most instruments where you enhance the sound > after/during recording with compression, eq, and effects with a > sampler you can do that all in advance and sample only the final > result. The best example of this is drum loops. Even in a > non-recording enviroment drum loops always sound better because they > already have been processed in a way to give them great dynamics. > Where as just sequencing raw drum samples, especially if you don't > have expensive mics, compressors, limiters, etc. to create the samples > with leaves you with samples that tend to have no punch or presence. > > On one of my many trips to E-mu back in the 90's I got to go into a > sound lab where someone created some of the factory presets. He had at > his disposal a great project studio with great monitors, mixer, and > outboard gear all of which went into making great samples. Add that > with a knowledge of the sampler itself that few user's have and you > are going to end up with banks of samples that show off the Emax at > it's best. It's an art not many can master. You need to have a good > studio engineering skills combined with patience and in depth sampler > knowledge. > > On 2 Oct 2003 at 3:42, hartmaan2003 spoke unto me: > > > What is it about the emax that gives it such a powerful sound? > > > > I have been playing with the synth patches (Das Synth and FM synth) > > and have to say that they sound way more impressive than my D50, TX7 > > or M1 synths!Are the synth patches samples or SE created internally? > > > > Thought this may generate some discussion instead of the usual > > problems and repairs :-) > > **************************John Silveria II**************************** > AIM & Yahoo! Messenger: EmaxJS > MSN: emaxjs@h... > The Silveria Family Website & Emax and Emax II User's Group > ------------------ http://www.silveriafamily.com ------------------- ---
> John Silveria II > AIM: EmaxJS > The Silveria Family Website > Emax and Emax II User's Group > http://www.silveriafamily.com