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Hi List,

I need to raise some cash so considering letting my least used brain go, I was wondering what is the going rate for an sds8.

thx in advance

pat

Kind of a wide range that I have seen on Ebay. Anywhere from $125.00 US to $*50.00 US. All depends on condition and how much someone is willing to pay for it really.


--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "pa21.t21@..." <pa21@...> wrote:

>
> Hi List,
> 
> I need to raise some cash so considering letting my least used brain go, I was wondering what is the going rate for an sds8.
> 
> thx in advance
> 
> pat
>

Kind of a wide range that I have seen on Ebay. Anywhere from $125.00 US to $*50.00 US. All depends on condition and how much someone is willing to pay for it really.


--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "pa21.t21@..." <pa21@...> wrote:

>
> Hi List,
> 
> I need to raise some cash so considering letting my least used brain go, I was wondering what is the going rate for an sds8.
> 
> thx in advance
> 
> pat
>

In Europe everything below 100 euros is a bargain (if it works that 
is!). Some dealers have pushed them up to 350 euros, but that's really 
hard to get from a sane person... ;)

-- 
electronically yours, jesper

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www.electronic-obsession.se


simmonssds7fan skrev 2013-06-10 22:18:

>
> Kind of a wide range that I have seen on Ebay. Anywhere from $125.00 US
> to $*50.00 US. All depends on condition and how much someone is willing
> to pay for it really.
>
> --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Simmons_Drums%40yahoogroups.com>, "pa21.t21@..." <pa21@...> wrote:
>  >
>  > Hi List,
>  >
>  > I need to raise some cash so considering letting my least used brain
> go, I was wondering what is the going rate for an sds8.
>  >
>  > thx in advance
>  >
>  > pat
>  >

Dam that cheap :(  ..very different story for my SDS 3
thx  for the info

p.




>________________________________
> From: simmonssds7fan <ptmetcalf@...>
>To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Monday, 10 June 2013, 21:18
>Subject: [Simmons Drums] Re: sds8 price
> 
>
>
>  
>
>Kind of a wide range that I have seen on Ebay. Anywhere from $125.00 US to $*50.00 US. All depends on condition and how much someone is willing to pay for it really.
>
>--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "pa21.t21@..." <pa21@...> wrote:
>>
>> Hi List,
>> 
>> I need to raise some cash so considering letting my least used brain go, I was wondering what is the going rate for an sds8.
>> 
>> thx in advance
>> 
>> pat
>>
>
>
> 
>
>

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--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, jesper <jesper@...> wrote:
>
> In Europe everything below 100 euros is a bargain (if it works that 
> is!). Some dealers have pushed them up to 350 euros, but that's really 
> hard to get from a sane person... ;)

Sanity and Simmons drums... sounds like a contradiction :-P

superwolle70 skrev 2013-06-10 23:00:
> Sanity and Simmons drums... sounds like a contradiction :-P

:D

-- 
electronically yours, jesper - who just bought a Trixer

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my first ebay bid, maybe 5 years ago I saw an SDS 3 for sale thought ooo might be nice to have a spare, it was around 250£ so I bid thought meh i'll spend a little more for what I bought mine for maybe ten years previously so I placed a bid of 450.. last day of auction arrived.. I learned about about snipe bidding that day and how out of touch I was with the current value of things.
It sold for over 1k.. mine cost 50£ around 1996.





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> From: jesper <jesper@electronic-obsession.se>
>To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Monday, 10 June 2013, 22:09
>Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: sds8 price
> 
>
>
>  
>superwolle70 skrev 2013-06-10 23:00:
>> Sanity and Simmons drums... sounds like a contradiction :-P
>
>:D
>
>-- 
>electronically yours, jesper - who just bought a Trixer
>
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That sound read "$125.00 US to $850.00 US"....sorry about the typo...
:p

--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "simmonssds7fan" <ptmetcalf@...> wrote:

>
> 
> Kind of a wide range that I have seen on Ebay. Anywhere from $125.00 US to $*50.00 US. All depends on condition and how much someone is willing to pay for it really.
> 
> 
> --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "pa21.t21@" <pa21@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi List,
> > 
> > I need to raise some cash so considering letting my least used brain go, I was wondering what is the going rate for an sds8.
> > 
> > thx in advance
> > 
> > pat
> >
>

LOL thats sounds a bit better thx for the update

p.



>________________________________
> From: simmonssds7fan <ptmetcalf@...>
>To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Tuesday, 11 June 2013, 2:13
>Subject: [Simmons Drums] Re: sds8 price
> 
>
>
>  
>That sound read "$125.00 US to $850.00 US"....sorry about the typo...
>:p
>
>--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "simmonssds7fan" <ptmetcalf@...> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Kind of a wide range that I have seen on Ebay. Anywhere from $125.00 US to $*50.00 US. All depends on condition and how much someone is willing to pay for it really.
>> 
>> 
>> --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "pa21.t21@" <pa21@> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi List,
>> > 
>> > I need to raise some cash so considering letting my least used brain go, I was wondering what is the going rate for an sds8.
>> > 
>> > thx in advance
>> > 
>> > pat
>> >
>>
>
>
> 
>
>

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pa21@... skrev 2013-06-10 23:22:
> my first ebay bid, maybe 5 years ago I saw an SDS 3 for sale thought ooo
> might be nice to have a spare, it was around 250£ so I bid thought meh
> i'll spend a little more for what I bought mine for maybe ten years
> previously so I placed a bid of 450.. last day of auction arrived.. I
> learned about about snipe bidding that day and how out of touch I was
> with the current value of things.
> It sold for over 1k.. mine cost 50£ around 1996.

SDS-III is a different breed. Circa 200 units made and first commercial 
product from Simmons. Stylish as hell, rare as hen's teeth and wanted 
like few other analogue drum brains.

SDS-8 was a commercial success. Thousands were produced. It looked 
boring, is common and often the poor man's entry to the analogue drum world.

Well, something like that anyway. :) I have owned three SDS-8's and sold 
every one. I have a SDS-III and it sure stays here since it's so bloody 
amazing!

-- 
electronically yours, jesper

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www.electronic-obsession.se

Fully agree Jesper, 

every SImmons isn't Gold. we can't expect a great price of every single model released. 
Not that simple.  Otherwise buying & selling that brand could be a full time job in itself.

^^




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De: jesper <jesper@...>
À: Simmons Drums <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>
Envoyé: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 15:19:36 +0200 (CEST)
Objet: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: sds8 price





 pa21@...m skrev 2013-06-10 23:22:

> my first ebay bid, maybe 5 years ago I saw an SDS 3 for sale thought ooo

> might be nice to have a spare, it was around 250£ so I bid thought meh

> i'll spend a little more for what I bought mine for maybe ten years

> previously so I placed a bid of 450.. last day of auction arrived.. I

> learned about about snipe bidding that day and how out of touch I was

> with the current value of things.

> It sold for over 1k.. mine cost 50£ around 1996.


SDS-III is a different breed. Circa 200 units made and first commercial 

product from Simmons. Stylish as hell, rare as hen's teeth and wanted 

like few other analogue drum brains.


SDS-8 was a commercial success. Thousands were produced. It looked 

boring, is common and often the poor man's entry to the analogue drum world.


Well, something like that anyway. :) I have owned three SDS-8's and sold 

every one. I have a SDS-III and it sure stays here since it's so bloody 

amazing!


-- 

electronically yours, jesper


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www.electronic-obsession.se





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I agree that EVERY Simmons isn't gold, but it seems that the most common model, the SDS-V is. Every one I find on ebay always seems to go for huge amounts of money, and this is usually JUST the brain, nevermind the pads! And yet the SDS-7, the most sophisticated, expensive, and uncommon one seems to not be worth nearly as much, sad to say. 

--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, Jacquot.Patrice@... wrote:

>
> Fully agree Jesper, 
> 
> every SImmons isn't Gold. we can't expect a great price of every single model released. 
> Not that simple.  Otherwise buying & selling that brand could be a full time job in itself.
> 
> ^^
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Mail d'origine -----
> De: jesper <jesper@...>
> À: Simmons Drums <Simmons_Drums@...m>
> Envoyé: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 15:19:36 +0200 (CEST)
> Objet: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: sds8 price
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  pa21@... skrev 2013-06-10 23:22:
> 
> > my first ebay bid, maybe 5 years ago I saw an SDS 3 for sale thought ooo
> 
> > might be nice to have a spare, it was around 250£ so I bid thought meh
> 
> > i'll spend a little more for what I bought mine for maybe ten years
> 
> > previously so I placed a bid of 450.. last day of auction arrived.. I
> 
> > learned about about snipe bidding that day and how out of touch I was
> 
> > with the current value of things.
> 
> > It sold for over 1k.. mine cost 50£ around 1996.
> 
> 
> SDS-III is a different breed. Circa 200 units made and first commercial 
> 
> product from Simmons. Stylish as hell, rare as hen's teeth and wanted 
> 
> like few other analogue drum brains.
> 
> 
> SDS-8 was a commercial success. Thousands were produced. It looked 
> 
> boring, is common and often the poor man's entry to the analogue drum world.
> 
> 
> Well, something like that anyway. :) I have owned three SDS-8's and sold 
> 
> every one. I have a SDS-III and it sure stays here since it's so bloody 
> 
> amazing!
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> electronically yours, jesper
> 
> 
> - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
> 
> www.electronic-obsession.se
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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>

simmonssds7fan skrev 2013-06-11 16:35:
> I agree that EVERY Simmons isn't gold, but it seems that the most common
> model, the SDS-V is.

Agree!

> Every one I find on ebay always seems to go for
> huge amounts of money, and this is usually JUST the brain, nevermind the
> pads! And yet the SDS-7, the most sophisticated, expensive, and uncommon
> one seems to not be worth nearly as much, sad to say.

Well, the SDX is more sophisticated, but to answer the Q: The SDS-V is 
iconic and seldom breaks down. The SDS-7 sure is cool, but harder to 
program and a bitch when it comes to failure and service.

The best solution is to have at least one of each. ;)

-- 
electronically yours, jesper

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www.electronic-obsession.se

> The best solution is to have at least one of each. ;)

at least 2 of each

The best solution is to have at least one of each. ;)- Sadly true ;)    or even 2 of each for backups if pro use...or even 10 of each in case of German artistic spirit view ;)




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In the case of the SDS-9, at least 4 or 5 of each, as I'm finding out! :p

--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "superwolle70" <superwolle70@...> wrote:

>
> 
> > The best solution is to have at least one of each. ;)
> 
> at least 2 of each
>

If only 2 of each ...    at least a very good & cheap Tech !
or you have to be rich ...




----- Mail d'origine -----
De: superwolle70 <superwolle70@yahoo.de>
À: Simmons Drums <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>
Envoyé: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 17:30:40 +0200 (CEST)
Objet: Re : Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: sds8 price





 

> The best solution is to have at least one of each. ;)


at least 2 of each





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I'm finding that the SDS-7 is not as unreliable as many purport it to be. While one of mine was described as "not working" when I purchased it, everything was an easy fix and that one is now working 100%. Yes, it is a pain to program, but once you have it programmed to the way you want it, you are set for a while. Granted, I haven't gigged out with it yet......

Sounds like the most reliable ones are the SDS-V and the SDS-8. I can tell you that the SDS-9 is a royal pain and even more unreliable than the SDS-7 is claimed to be. I'm still trying to get mine working properly! :p

I'll let you know how reliable the SDS-8 still is, as I recently purchased one, complete with pads, etc. This one may be the keeper for me in the end.....

--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, jesper <jesper@...> wrote:

>
> simmonssds7fan skrev 2013-06-11 16:35:
> > I agree that EVERY Simmons isn't gold, but it seems that the most common
> > model, the SDS-V is.
> 
> Agree!
> 
> > Every one I find on ebay always seems to go for
> > huge amounts of money, and this is usually JUST the brain, nevermind the
> > pads! And yet the SDS-7, the most sophisticated, expensive, and uncommon
> > one seems to not be worth nearly as much, sad to say.
> 
> Well, the SDX is more sophisticated, but to answer the Q: The SDS-V is 
> iconic and seldom breaks down. The SDS-7 sure is cool, but harder to 
> program and a bitch when it comes to failure and service.
> 
> The best solution is to have at least one of each. ;)
> 
> -- 
> electronically yours, jesper
> 
> - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
> www.electronic-obsession.se
>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "superwolle70" <superwolle70@...>
To: <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 5:30 PM
Subject: Re : Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: sds8 price


>
>> The best solution is to have at least one of each. ;)
>
> at least 2 of each

Second that !

I should never have sold my other SDS-7....ok 4 was a bit too much but 2 is 
the optimal number.

WT

>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

I think I can find some work for 4 SDS7 ;)
Greediness is insane... but I definitely could & fill Eproms enough to justify 4 of them :)))

But Then I'd need at least 2 fast & furious techies ...Ah ah !


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Envoyé: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 19:27:51 +0200 (CEST)
Objet: Re: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: sds8 price

----- Original Message ----- 

From: "superwolle70" <superwolle70@...>

To: <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 5:30 PM

Subject: Re : Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: sds8 price


>

>> The best solution is to have at least one of each. ;)

>

> at least 2 of each


Second that !


I should never have sold my other SDS-7....ok 4 was a bit too much but 2 is 

the optimal number.


WT


>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> Yahoo! Groups Links

>

>

>





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SDS7... a bitch to program??? Hmmm... in my opinion, the programming is actually simple enough once you get used to the procedure. (Unless it's the tedious process of reprogramming EVERY patch as a result of memory loss..) I actually enjoy tweaking and discovering its many nuances. Some of the better patches I came across were the result of messing about with random values. The "bitch" with respect to the SDS7 is the lack of the Memory Cartridge availability. I would kill to find one of those, lol. I own 3 SDS7's (2 fully loaded working and 1 non working for spares) and they won't be going anywhere!! :-) 

As for reliable, when I bought my second SDS7 it was literally dead. The previous owner said it was working when he had it. Upon inspection, there was nothing wrong with it other than the the fact that it had been transported a great distance.. and as we know the older SDS7's were plagued with loss of memory and patch info due to the cards and boards moving about in their slots. This particular unit is a later version with the "locking" slots that had been introduced to alleviate the loss of data problem. Nonetheless, I simply removed all the cards and front panel assembly, replaced the battery, cleaned and reassembled the unit and it's been rock solid ever since. Mind you, it hasn't left the studio and is powered by conditioned A/C on a UPS. The gig is a much harsher environment and can destroy electronics if one isn't mindful of the mains and power sources. (Bad power claimed the life of my Ensoniq ESQ-1 moments before a gig many years ago.. that was fun!) Hauling a UPS to the gig can be the difference between taking home a working unit versus one with a burned out PSU or worse.

Errrrr.... sorry.. what was the question again? lol...

Teknik14




--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "simmonssds7fan" <ptmetcalf@...> wrote:

>
> I'm finding that the SDS-7 is not as unreliable as many purport it to be. While one of mine was described as "not working" when I purchased it, everything was an easy fix and that one is now working 100%. Yes, it is a pain to program, but once you have it programmed to the way you want it, you are set for a while. Granted, I haven't gigged out with it yet......
> 
> Sounds like the most reliable ones are the SDS-V and the SDS-8. I can tell you that the SDS-9 is a royal pain and even more unreliable than the SDS-7 is claimed to be. I'm still trying to get mine working properly! :p
> 
> I'll let you know how reliable the SDS-8 still is, as I recently purchased one, complete with pads, etc. This one may be the keeper for me in the end.....
> 
> --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, jesper <jesper@> wrote:
> >
> > simmonssds7fan skrev 2013-06-11 16:35:
> > > I agree that EVERY Simmons isn't gold, but it seems that the most common
> > > model, the SDS-V is.
> > 
> > Agree!
> > 
> > > Every one I find on ebay always seems to go for
> > > huge amounts of money, and this is usually JUST the brain, nevermind the
> > > pads! And yet the SDS-7, the most sophisticated, expensive, and uncommon
> > > one seems to not be worth nearly as much, sad to say.
> > 
> > Well, the SDX is more sophisticated, but to answer the Q: The SDS-V is 
> > iconic and seldom breaks down. The SDS-7 sure is cool, but harder to 
> > program and a bitch when it comes to failure and service.
> > 
> > The best solution is to have at least one of each. ;)
> > 
> > -- 
> > electronically yours, jesper
> > 
> > - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
> > www.electronic-obsession.se
> >
>

OK, bad choice of words... clicking isn't my idea of fun when there are 
units with knobs and sliders. :) And when you find broken Simmons gear 
online or spare parts for that matter, it's often SDS-7 stuff. There 
must be a reason for that.

But it's a great machine! :D

-- 
electronically yours, jesper

- -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
www.electronic-obsession.se



teknikfourteen skrev 2013-06-12 15:03:

> SDS7... a bitch to program??? Hmmm... in my opinion, the programming is
> actually simple enough once you get used to the procedure. (Unless it's
> the tedious process of reprogramming EVERY patch as a result of memory
> loss..) I actually enjoy tweaking and discovering its many nuances. Some
> of the better patches I came across were the result of messing about
> with random values. The "bitch" with respect to the SDS7 is the lack of
> the Memory Cartridge availability. I would kill to find one of those,
> lol. I own 3 SDS7's (2 fully loaded working and 1 non working for
> spares) and they won't be going anywhere!! :-)
>
> As for reliable, when I bought my second SDS7 it was literally dead. The
> previous owner said it was working when he had it. Upon inspection,
> there was nothing wrong with it other than the the fact that it had been
> transported a great distance.. and as we know the older SDS7's were
> plagued with loss of memory and patch info due to the cards and boards
> moving about in their slots. This particular unit is a later version
> with the "locking" slots that had been introduced to alleviate the loss
> of data problem. Nonetheless, I simply removed all the cards and front
> panel assembly, replaced the battery, cleaned and reassembled the unit
> and it's been rock solid ever since. Mind you, it hasn't left the studio
> and is powered by conditioned A/C on a UPS. The gig is a much harsher
> environment and can destroy electronics if one isn't mindful of the
> mains and power sources. (Bad power claimed the life of my Ensoniq ESQ-1
> moments before a gig many years ago.. that was fun!) Hauling a UPS to
> the gig can be the difference between taking home a working unit versus
> one with a burned out PSU or worse.
>
> Errrrr.... sorry.. what was the question again? lol...
>
> Teknik1

Well I'd say ...the SDS7 can definitely be a bitch to program despite its great & beautiful sound !
It requires a lot of care & attention... & Issues are legendary if you talk to the pro drummers or drumtechs back in the days.
But it has a great charm. & digging in the settings is a great fun.
 Clicking is a pain especially when you are at the end of the sound of your life & suddenly a double click occurs...End of the game you have to restart everything. But well, the more you do it the more you enter in its logic & acquires it. But for a beginner it can be hell ! 
If that memory loss occurs at the sound check you're dead !
It happened to a friend of mine, with a very known singer here,  more than 10000 people in the audience... ARGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG ... & the arrangments were done a lot around the Simmons then !

But I love the 7 & its crazy analog part, the grainy 8bits chips  transposition    :)
It's worthwhile redoing the setting when it loses it sounds.. & a good opportunity to understand the machine.

As often with Simmons, it brings you somewhere in between Frustration & Fascination.

P.


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De: jesper <jesper@...>
À: Simmons Drums <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>
Envoyé: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 13:08:49 +0200 (CEST)
Objet: Re: Re : Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: sds8 price





 OK, bad choice of words... clicking isn't my idea of fun when there are 

units with knobs and sliders. :) And when you find broken Simmons gear 

online or spare parts for that matter, it's often SDS-7 stuff. There 

must be a reason for that.


But it's a great machine! :D


-- 

electronically yours, jesper


- -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -

www.electronic-obsession.se


teknikfourteen skrev 2013-06-12 15:03:

> SDS7... a bitch to program??? Hmmm... in my opinion, the programming is

> actually simple enough once you get used to the procedure. (Unless it's

> the tedious process of reprogramming EVERY patch as a result of memory

> loss..) I actually enjoy tweaking and discovering its many nuances. Some

> of the better patches I came across were the result of messing about

> with random values. The "bitch" with respect to the SDS7 is the lack of

> the Memory Cartridge availability. I would kill to find one of those,

> lol. I own 3 SDS7's (2 fully loaded working and 1 non working for

> spares) and they won't be going anywhere!! :-)

>

> As for reliable, when I bought my second SDS7 it was literally dead. The

> previous owner said it was working when he had it. Upon inspection,

> there was nothing wrong with it other than the the fact that it had been

> transported a great distance.. and as we know the older SDS7's were

> plagued with loss of memory and patch info due to the cards and boards

> moving about in their slots. This particular unit is a later version

> with the "locking" slots that had been introduced to alleviate the loss

> of data problem. Nonetheless, I simply removed all the cards and front

> panel assembly, replaced the battery, cleaned and reassembled the unit

> and it's been rock solid ever since. Mind you, it hasn't left the studio

> and is powered by conditioned A/C on a UPS. The gig is a much harsher

> environment and can destroy electronics if one isn't mindful of the

> mains and power sources. (Bad power claimed the life of my Ensoniq ESQ-1

> moments before a gig many years ago.. that was fun!) Hauling a UPS to

> the gig can be the difference between taking home a working unit versus

> one with a burned out PSU or worse.

>

> Errrrr.... sorry.. what was the question again? lol...

>

> Teknik1




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> I'll let you know how reliable the SDS-8 still is, as I recently
>purchased one, complete with pads, etc. This one may be the keeper for me
>in the end.....


Programming the SDS7 is not as fast as spinning the pots on an SDS8, but
there are so many sounds that the 7 is capable of that the 8 can't touch.
The 8 is completely analogue while the 7 is a hybrid. You can get close to
the sound of the 8 with the analogue section of the 7, but not the other
way around. Also, the analogue section of the SDS7 really does sound
better than the SDS800 to my ears.

On the other hand, you can do live tweaking on the SDS8 that would be
impossible on the 7, or on the similar Pearl Drum-X, like this:

http://soundcloud.com/red-noise/simmons-sds-800-1

I've had an 800 since the early 90's, and thought briefly about selling it
when I got my 7. VERY briefly. As soon as I started digging into the 7 I
realized I was going to need both of them :-P

all my best,
- Scott


ps - some more links to some SDS sounds I have on SoundCloud:

Using only the analogue section of the SDS7:
http://soundcloud.com/red-noise/sds7

Using the digital and analogue sections of the SDS7:
http://soundcloud.com/red-noise/simmons-sds7

Using the Run Generator on the SDS800:
http://soundcloud.com/red-noise/simmons-sds-800

Scott Gibbons skrev 2013-06-14 00:40:
> I've had an 800 since the early 90's, and thought briefly about selling it
> when I got my 7. VERY briefly. As soon as I started digging into the 7 I
> realized I was going to need both of them :-P

You always need MOOOOOOOOORE gear! ;)

-- 
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  From: jesper 
  To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 12:56 PM
  Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: sds8 price


    
  Scott Gibbons skrev 2013-06-14 00:40:
  > I've had an 800 since the early 90's, and thought briefly about selling it
  > when I got my 7. VERY briefly. As soon as I started digging into the 7 I
  > realized I was going to need both of them :-P

  You always need MOOOOOOOOORE gear! ;)

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I can attest that programming an SDS7 is not as fast as an SDS8, as it took me the better part of a day to re-program all of the 39 factory defined kits back into the memory of one of my SDS7s. Better sound? Well I guess that is subjective. They all have their strengths and weaknesses sonically. I also agree that programming a 7 can be tedious, but once you get the hang of it, it kind of becomes second nature, however, it is still time consuming. 

--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, Scott Gibbons <scott@...> wrote:

>
> > I'll let you know how reliable the SDS-8 still is, as I recently
> >purchased one, complete with pads, etc. This one may be the keeper for me
> >in the end.....
> 
> 
> Programming the SDS7 is not as fast as spinning the pots on an SDS8, but
> there are so many sounds that the 7 is capable of that the 8 can't touch.
> The 8 is completely analogue while the 7 is a hybrid. You can get close to
> the sound of the 8 with the analogue section of the 7, but not the other
> way around. Also, the analogue section of the SDS7 really does sound
> better than the SDS800 to my ears.
> 
> On the other hand, you can do live tweaking on the SDS8 that would be
> impossible on the 7, or on the similar Pearl Drum-X, like this:
> 
> http://soundcloud.com/red-noise/simmons-sds-800-1
> 
> I've had an 800 since the early 90's, and thought briefly about selling it
> when I got my 7. VERY briefly. As soon as I started digging into the 7 I
> realized I was going to need both of them :-P
> 
> all my best,
> - Scott
> 
> 
> ps - some more links to some SDS sounds I have on SoundCloud:
> 
> Using only the analogue section of the SDS7:
> http://soundcloud.com/red-noise/sds7
> 
> Using the digital and analogue sections of the SDS7:
> http://soundcloud.com/red-noise/simmons-sds7
> 
> Using the Run Generator on the SDS800:
> http://soundcloud.com/red-noise/simmons-sds-800
>

I'd be interested in those factorypresets.

Can you upload them ?

WT

14 jun 2013 kl. 15:46 skrev "simmonssds7fan" <ptmetcalf@...>:

> I can attest that programming an SDS7 is not as fast as an SDS8, as it took me the better part of a day to re-program all of the 39 factory defined kits back into the memory of one of my SDS7s. Better sound? Well I guess that is subjective. They all have their strengths and weaknesses sonically. I also agree that programming a 7 can be tedious, but once you get the hang of it, it kind of becomes second nature, however, it is still time consuming. 
> 
> --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, Scott Gibbons <scott@...> wrote:
>> 
>>> I'll let you know how reliable the SDS-8 still is, as I recently
>>> purchased one, complete with pads, etc. This one may be the keeper for me
>>> in the end.....
>> 
>> 
>> Programming the SDS7 is not as fast as spinning the pots on an SDS8, but
>> there are so many sounds that the 7 is capable of that the 8 can't touch.
>> The 8 is completely analogue while the 7 is a hybrid. You can get close to
>> the sound of the 8 with the analogue section of the 7, but not the other
>> way around. Also, the analogue section of the SDS7 really does sound
>> better than the SDS800 to my ears.
>> 
>> On the other hand, you can do live tweaking on the SDS8 that would be
>> impossible on the 7, or on the similar Pearl Drum-X, like this:
>> 
>> http://soundcloud.com/red-noise/simmons-sds-800-1
>> 
>> I've had an 800 since the early 90's, and thought briefly about selling it
>> when I got my 7. VERY briefly. As soon as I started digging into the 7 I
>> realized I was going to need both of them :-P
>> 
>> all my best,
>> - Scott
>> 
>> 
>> ps - some more links to some SDS sounds I have on SoundCloud:
>> 
>> Using only the analogue section of the SDS7:
>> http://soundcloud.com/red-noise/sds7
>> 
>> Using the digital and analogue sections of the SDS7:
>> http://soundcloud.com/red-noise/simmons-sds7
>> 
>> Using the Run Generator on the SDS800:
>> http://soundcloud.com/red-noise/simmons-sds-800
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
>

There is a spreadsheet here on the group page under files. SDS-7 Presets.xls I believe it is called.

--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, WT <waveterm@...> wrote:

>
> I'd be interested in those factorypresets.
> 
> Can you upload them ?
> 
> WT
> 
> 14 jun 2013 kl. 15:46 skrev "simmonssds7fan" <ptmetcalf@...>:
> 
> > I can attest that programming an SDS7 is not as fast as an SDS8, as it took me the better part of a day to re-program all of the 39 factory defined kits back into the memory of one of my SDS7s. Better sound? Well I guess that is subjective. They all have their strengths and weaknesses sonically. I also agree that programming a 7 can be tedious, but once you get the hang of it, it kind of becomes second nature, however, it is still time consuming. 
> > 
> > --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, Scott Gibbons <scott@> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> I'll let you know how reliable the SDS-8 still is, as I recently
> >>> purchased one, complete with pads, etc. This one may be the keeper for me
> >>> in the end.....
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Programming the SDS7 is not as fast as spinning the pots on an SDS8, but
> >> there are so many sounds that the 7 is capable of that the 8 can't touch.
> >> The 8 is completely analogue while the 7 is a hybrid. You can get close to
> >> the sound of the 8 with the analogue section of the 7, but not the other
> >> way around. Also, the analogue section of the SDS7 really does sound
> >> better than the SDS800 to my ears.
> >> 
> >> On the other hand, you can do live tweaking on the SDS8 that would be
> >> impossible on the 7, or on the similar Pearl Drum-X, like this:
> >> 
> >> http://soundcloud.com/red-noise/simmons-sds-800-1
> >> 
> >> I've had an 800 since the early 90's, and thought briefly about selling it
> >> when I got my 7. VERY briefly. As soon as I started digging into the 7 I
> >> realized I was going to need both of them :-P
> >> 
> >> all my best,
> >> - Scott
> >> 
> >> 
> >> ps - some more links to some SDS sounds I have on SoundCloud:
> >> 
> >> Using only the analogue section of the SDS7:
> >> http://soundcloud.com/red-noise/sds7
> >> 
> >> Using the digital and analogue sections of the SDS7:
> >> http://soundcloud.com/red-noise/simmons-sds7
> >> 
> >> Using the Run Generator on the SDS800:
> >> http://soundcloud.com/red-noise/simmons-sds-800
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------------
> > 
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > 
> > 
> >
>

Cool !

Thanks.

WT

----- Original Message ----- 

From: "simmonssds7fan" <ptmetcalf@...>
To: <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 7:06 PM
Subject: [Simmons Drums] Re: sds8 price


> There is a spreadsheet here on the group page under files. SDS-7 
> Presets.xls I believe it is called.
>
> --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, WT <waveterm@...> wrote:
>>
>> I'd be interested in those factorypresets.
>>
>> Can you upload them ?
>>
>> WT
>>
>> 14 jun 2013 kl. 15:46 skrev "simmonssds7fan" <ptmetcalf@...>:
>>
>> > I can attest that programming an SDS7 is not as fast as an SDS8, as it 
>> > took me the better part of a day to re-program all of the 39 factory 
>> > defined kits back into the memory of one of my SDS7s. Better sound? 
>> > Well I guess that is subjective. They all have their strengths and 
>> > weaknesses sonically. I also agree that programming a 7 can be tedious, 
>> > but once you get the hang of it, it kind of becomes second nature, 
>> > however, it is still time consuming.
>> >
>> > --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, Scott Gibbons <scott@> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I'll let you know how reliable the SDS-8 still is, as I recently
>> >>> purchased one, complete with pads, etc. This one may be the keeper 
>> >>> for me
>> >>> in the end.....
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Programming the SDS7 is not as fast as spinning the pots on an SDS8, 
>> >> but
>> >> there are so many sounds that the 7 is capable of that the 8 can't 
>> >> touch.
>> >> The 8 is completely analogue while the 7 is a hybrid. You can get 
>> >> close to
>> >> the sound of the 8 with the analogue section of the 7, but not the 
>> >> other
>> >> way around. Also, the analogue section of the SDS7 really does sound
>> >> better than the SDS800 to my ears.
>> >>
>> >> On the other hand, you can do live tweaking on the SDS8 that would be
>> >> impossible on the 7, or on the similar Pearl Drum-X, like this:
>> >>
>> >> http://soundcloud.com/red-noise/simmons-sds-800-1
>> >>
>> >> I've had an 800 since the early 90's, and thought briefly about 
>> >> selling it
>> >> when I got my 7. VERY briefly. As soon as I started digging into the 7 
>> >> I
>> >> realized I was going to need both of them :-P
>> >>
>> >> all my best,
>> >> - Scott
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ps - some more links to some SDS sounds I have on SoundCloud:
>> >>
>> >> Using only the analogue section of the SDS7:
>> >> http://soundcloud.com/red-noise/sds7
>> >>
>> >> Using the digital and analogue sections of the SDS7:
>> >> http://soundcloud.com/red-noise/simmons-sds7
>> >>
>> >> Using the Run Generator on the SDS800:
>> >> http://soundcloud.com/red-noise/simmons-sds-800
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------
>> >
>> > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
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