2013-05-16 by Jacquot.Patrice@...
Brilliant !
I knew you were a God :)
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De: jesper <jesper@...>
À: Simmons Drums <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>
Envoyé: Thu, 16 May 2013 09:02:42 +0200 (CEST)
Objet: Re: Re : [Simmons Drums] MTM & SDSV via MIDI
I made a tutorial that I posted in the archives since, as Patrice said,
it's a real pain to program. I might have it here as well...
*searching*
Yes, I did. This is concerned with note and midi channel design. Not
resonse curves and effects. Feel free to ask if you experience problems.
I have this setup on my three MTM's. My SDS-7 (8 channels) has a
dedicated MTM and runs on the second octave on the keybard, the SDS-V (7
channels) on the third octave and the last MTM is placed on octave four
and the outputs goes to a patchbay (currently patched to SDS-III and
Syndrum Quad). Which note numbers and channels you want are your choice.
Take this as a guide...
Here it is in text form:
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SETTING UP THE MTM TO ACCEPT MIDI ON CHANNEL 16 WHERE CHANNEL 1
RES-PONDS TO VELOCITY ON LOWEST C UP TO CHANNEL 7 RESPONDING TO LOWEST F#.
Press [on] (no shit - what a start!)
After power up it comes to rest at (play patch)
Press [all/default] until the (F) disappears from the display top right.
Press [patch]
Press [edit] *takes us into editing mode*
Press [process] followed by [no] or [yes] until the display shows (01)
Press [edit] *takes us out of editing mode*
Press [route]
Press [edit] *takes us into editing mode*
Press [process] followed by [no] or [yes] until the display shows (99)
*easiest imho, just stepping down, but any between 21 and 99 will do*
Press [edit] *takes us out of editing mode*
Press [effect]
Press [edit] *takes us into editing mode*
Press [process] followed by [no] or [yes] until the display shows (01)
Press [edit] *takes us out of editing mode*
*all this is mainly to determine that nothing is messed up prior to
editing. My units was set up by former owners and they seemed to be
drummers*
Press [route]
Press [edit] *takes us into editing mode*
Press [no] or [yes] if necessary, to show (99)
Press [trig in] followed by [no] or [yes] until the display shows (01)
Press [midi chan/note] followed by [no] or [yes] until the display shows
(16)
*can be any number, but in my case it's 16. Please note that you cannot
cycle this sequence*
Press [midi note] followed by [no] or [yes] until the display shows (C3)
*This is, in my case, lowest C. Double check with your own master
keyboard, but the MTM seems to one octave off compared to my master and
two octaves off compared to Cubase on Atari. This caused massive
confusion first time I tried to solve the puzzle*
Press [trig out] followed by [no] or [yes] until the display shows (01)
*now input 1 is routed to output 1, you can fiddle with this in your own
way later, if you prefer it another way... stay with me now* :D
Press [store] followed by [no] or [yes] until the display shows (99)
*we did this earlier, but I chose to include it for double safety,
(01)-(20) are factory presets and unusable for us deadly*
Press [store]
*confirms the action*
Continue from "Press [trig in]" above, but choose (02), [midi chan/note]
(16), [midi note] (C3#), [trig out] (02) and end with the storing sequence.
*the MTM have a lousy short term memory, so better safe than sorry and
save often* :)
Continue with inputs (03)-(07) like above and make sure that all are set
the same for ins and out, all uses midi channel (16) and are spread
across the octave as (D3) to (F3#).
Press [edit] *takes us out of editing mode*
SETTING UP THE MTM SO THAT THE MIDI CONTROL CHANGE DEVICE
(I E PEDAL OR SIMILAR) CONTROLS CHANNEL 8 (HIHAT)
Press [midi] *takes us into editing mode*
Press [option/select] three times (midi ch8)
Press [yes] until it says (HIHAT)
Press [yes] until it says (16)
Press [option/select] followed by [no] or [yes] to select midi control
change channel
*I haven't got the channel specs here, but choose whichever you prefer.
You can also program control changes into your sequencer if that seems
more handy. See the manual for the sequencer!*
Press [midi] *takes us out of editing mode*
*this hihat setting overrides all other trigger settings regarding
channel 8*
--- end --- Jesper Ödemark 2010-07-04
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Jacquot.Patrice@free.fr skrev 2013-05-15 16:57:
> Hi Thomas,
> Well it should work fine. The MtM is a hell to program , depends what
> you wanna do.
> I used mine just to trigg easily & basically sdsV, 7 ,III IV & whatever
> don't have Midi & it does the job very well.
> I still didn't manage to make work fine the hihat...but some fellows did
> it !
>
> Sorry I don't have any tips, as I never remember how I set things
> previously from a week to another sometimes. MtM is a beast but you need
> to dig into it (via the manual) to fully understand different access to
> different functions.
> For me it's really a pain... so I'm happy with basic functions (midi
> notes , dynamics) & have no will for Bruford chordal drum stuff. Even if
> I love when HE does it ...
>
> Good luck !
> Patrice.
>
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> De: Thomas <tom@... <mailto:tom%40drummertom.com>>
> À: Simmons Drums <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Simmons_Drums%40yahoogroups.com>>
> Envoyé: Wed, 15 May 2013 15:55:20 +0200 (CEST)
> Objet: [Simmons Drums] MTM & SDSV via MIDI
>
> Hello all!
>
> Long time lurker, and seldom poster here...
>
> I have been searching through the old postings, but I haven't been able
> to find any good answers so far. What I am trying to do, is trigger an
> SDSV via MIDI, utilizing an MTM. I have been reading through the manual,
> and I can see that the default notes to play with on the MIDI side are
> C4 E4 G4 B4 C5 E5 G5 B5. I am really only concerned with the 4th octave
> notes, since the SDSV currently only has 4 modules installed. I took the
> 3rd TOM out and placed it in the SDSV I use for "live" playing. (
> Incidentally, the unit I want to trigger via MIDI is serial #284, which
> I am led to believe was once owned and used by Michael Dawe, drummer for
> Robert Palmer, just in case anyone was interested. )
>
> Does anyone have experience with triggering in this manner, and if so,
> do they have any tips that I can use to program the MTM in a quick and
> easy fashion? Anything helps really. The manual doesn't seem to cover
> what I am specifically attempting to do, but I may be overlooking it...
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Thomas
>
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