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Analog ClapTrap

2010-03-18 by Reek

I have a very old Analog ClapTrap that I use in an Electronica system I built. I'm getting a high pitch whine from the output. Any suggestions? Anyone have a schematic?

Reek Havok

Re: Analog ClapTrap

2010-03-28 by jabathaslut

Hi,

I have a nice copy of the analog claptrap schematic (not from a commercial dealer so no probs with giving it away) so if you contact me off group I'll see if I can help u out..=)

cheers 

Richard

--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "Reek" <skrubby_one@...> wrote:
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>
> I have a very old Analog ClapTrap that I use in an Electronica system I built. I'm getting a high pitch whine from the output. Any suggestions? Anyone have a schematic?
> 
> Reek Havok
>

Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Analog ClapTrap

2010-03-28 by jesper

jabathaslut skrev:
>  
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have a nice copy of the analog claptrap schematic (not from a 
> commercial dealer so no probs with giving it away) so if you contact me 
> off group I'll see if I can help u out..=)

Please share with everybody... I'd like a copy too just in case clapper 
008 would fold.

-- 
electronically yours, jesper

- -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
www.electronic-obsession.se

[Simmons Drums] Re: Analog ClapTrap

2010-03-28 by jabathaslut

Iv'e shoved them into a folder in the files area as per your request.
If guys or gals can add internal photo's etc it would be great for all who need this sort of info

cheers

Richard

--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, jesper <jesper@...> wrote:
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>
> jabathaslut skrev:
> >  
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I have a nice copy of the analog claptrap schematic (not from a 
> > commercial dealer so no probs with giving it away) so if you contact me 
> > off group I'll see if I can help u out..=)
> 
> Please share with everybody... I'd like a copy too just in case clapper 
> 008 would fold.
> 
> -- 
> electronically yours, jesper
> 
> - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
> www.electronic-obsession.se
>

Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Analog ClapTrap

2010-03-29 by Michael Buchner

Thanks for unauthorised publishing my work. I have to be a little more careful spreading my info and help next time.
Michael
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: jabathaslut 
  To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 11:01 PM
  Subject: [Simmons Drums] Re: Analog ClapTrap


    
  Iv'e shoved them into a folder in the files area as per your request.
  If guys or gals can add internal photo's etc it would be great for all who need this sort of info

  cheers

  Richard

  --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, jesper <jesper@...> wrote:
  >
  > jabathaslut skrev:
  > > 
  > > 
  > > Hi,
  > > 
  > > I have a nice copy of the analog claptrap schematic (not from a 
  > > commercial dealer so no probs with giving it away) so if you contact me 
  > > off group I'll see if I can help u out..=)
  > 
  > Please share with everybody... I'd like a copy too just in case clapper 
  > 008 would fold.
  > 
  > -- 
  > electronically yours, jesper
  > 
  > - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
  > www.electronic-obsession.se
  >



  

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Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Analog ClapTrap

2010-03-29 by WT

Michael,

in what way is this your work ?

WT

----- Original Message -----
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From: "Michael Buchner" <buchnerelectronics@...>
To: <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Analog ClapTrap


> Thanks for unauthorised publishing my work. I have to be a little more 
> careful spreading my info and help next time.
> Michael
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: jabathaslut
>  To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
>  Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 11:01 PM
>  Subject: [Simmons Drums] Re: Analog ClapTrap
>
>
>
>  Iv'e shoved them into a folder in the files area as per your request.
>  If guys or gals can add internal photo's etc it would be great for all 
> who need this sort of info
>
>  cheers
>
>  Richard
>
>  --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, jesper <jesper@...> wrote:
>  >
>  > jabathaslut skrev:
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > Hi,
>  > >
>  > > I have a nice copy of the analog claptrap schematic (not from a
>  > > commercial dealer so no probs with giving it away) so if you contact 
> me
>  > > off group I'll see if I can help u out..=)
>  >
>  > Please share with everybody... I'd like a copy too just in case clapper
>  > 008 would fold.
>  >
>  > -- 
>  > electronically yours, jesper
>  >
>  > - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
>  > www.electronic-obsession.se
>  >
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Analog ClapTrap

2010-03-29 by Michael Buchner

I painted the board with the components. By hand. It took me two days. I share it with anybody asking for it having problems with his claptrap, but I don't want to have it published by somebody without being asked.
Sorry.
Michael
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----- Original Message ----- 
  From: WT 
  To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 7:12 PM
  Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Analog ClapTrap


    
  Michael,

  in what way is this your work ?

  WT

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Michael Buchner" <buchnerelectronics@...>
  To: <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>
  Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 2:27 PM
  Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Analog ClapTrap

  > Thanks for unauthorised publishing my work. I have to be a little more 
  > careful spreading my info and help next time.
  > Michael
  >
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: jabathaslut
  > To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
  > Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 11:01 PM
  > Subject: [Simmons Drums] Re: Analog ClapTrap
  >
  >
  >
  > Iv'e shoved them into a folder in the files area as per your request.
  > If guys or gals can add internal photo's etc it would be great for all 
  > who need this sort of info
  >
  > cheers
  >
  > Richard
  >
  > --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, jesper <jesper@...> wrote:
  > >
  > > jabathaslut skrev:
  > > >
  > > >
  > > > Hi,
  > > >
  > > > I have a nice copy of the analog claptrap schematic (not from a
  > > > commercial dealer so no probs with giving it away) so if you contact 
  > me
  > > > off group I'll see if I can help u out..=)
  > >
  > > Please share with everybody... I'd like a copy too just in case clapper
  > > 008 would fold.
  > >
  > > -- 
  > > electronically yours, jesper
  > >
  > > - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
  > > www.electronic-obsession.se
  > >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
  >
  >
  >
  > ------------------------------------
  >
  > Yahoo! Groups Links
  >
  >
  >



  

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Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Analog ClapTrap

2010-03-29 by WT

Ok.

Thanks for explaining. Very good work !

WT

----- Original Message -----
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From: "Michael Buchner" <buchnerelectronics@...>
To: <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Analog ClapTrap


>I painted the board with the components. By hand. It took me two days. I 
>share it with anybody asking for it having problems with his claptrap, but 
>I don't want to have it published by somebody without being asked.
> Sorry.
> Michael
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: WT
>  To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
>  Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 7:12 PM
>  Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Analog ClapTrap
>
>
>
>  Michael,
>
>  in what way is this your work ?
>
>  WT
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: "Michael Buchner" <buchnerelectronics@...>
>  To: <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>
>  Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 2:27 PM
>  Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Analog ClapTrap
>
>  > Thanks for unauthorised publishing my work. I have to be a little more
>  > careful spreading my info and help next time.
>  > Michael
>  >
>  > ----- Original Message ----- 
>  > From: jabathaslut
>  > To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
>  > Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 11:01 PM
>  > Subject: [Simmons Drums] Re: Analog ClapTrap
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Iv'e shoved them into a folder in the files area as per your request.
>  > If guys or gals can add internal photo's etc it would be great for all
>  > who need this sort of info
>  >
>  > cheers
>  >
>  > Richard
>  >
>  > --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, jesper <jesper@...> wrote:
>  > >
>  > > jabathaslut skrev:
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > > Hi,
>  > > >
>  > > > I have a nice copy of the analog claptrap schematic (not from a
>  > > > commercial dealer so no probs with giving it away) so if you 
> contact
>  > me
>  > > > off group I'll see if I can help u out..=)
>  > >
>  > > Please share with everybody... I'd like a copy too just in case 
> clapper
>  > > 008 would fold.
>  > >
>  > > -- 
>  > > electronically yours, jesper
>  > >
>  > > - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
>  > > www.electronic-obsession.se
>  > >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > ------------------------------------
>  >
>  > Yahoo! Groups Links
>  >
>  >
>  >
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

[Simmons Drums] Re: Analog ClapTrap

2010-03-29 by jabathaslut

Sorry Michael if I offended. I made a note in a text in the folder
that the items did not come from me. I had them a on a CD I have many 
manual scans on and the files were dated from 2 years ago.

I did not intend to simply post anyone's personal work and had I known it had come from someone on this list I certainly would have asked first.

I have removed the offending item as well as the schematic (due to not knowing it's source)

I was simply trying to assist in a group member repairing his unit.

I apologize for the indiscretion and will refrain from further posting
of schematics and info etc.

I don't understand why people become "touchy" about things like this.
I have spent 30yrs of my life repairing and assisting people in keeping the older gear running. I too have spent many hours at my expense retracing pcb's etc and have them all on file. My most recent
effort I mentioned on this group and pertains to a complete reverse engineering of the SDSV. I have 95% completed this and at this point if someone wanted to build a complete SDDSV from my info they could.(including the hihat and cymbals)

I was in the process of putting together a WEB Site to make my work available but as of this point I think I will refrain.

Again sorry for causing you the concern. If you had contacted me off group I would have dealt with it.

Cheers

Richard

--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Buchner" <buchnerelectronics@...> wrote:
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>
> Thanks for unauthorised publishing my work. I have to be a little more careful spreading my info and help next time.
> Michael
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: jabathaslut 
>   To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 11:01 PM
>   Subject: [Simmons Drums] Re: Analog ClapTrap
> 
> 
>     
>   Iv'e shoved them into a folder in the files area as per your request.
>   If guys or gals can add internal photo's etc it would be great for all who need this sort of info
> 
>   cheers
> 
>   Richard
> 
>   --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, jesper <jesper@> wrote:
>   >
>   > jabathaslut skrev:
>   > > 
>   > > 
>   > > Hi,
>   > > 
>   > > I have a nice copy of the analog claptrap schematic (not from a 
>   > > commercial dealer so no probs with giving it away) so if you contact me 
>   > > off group I'll see if I can help u out..=)
>   > 
>   > Please share with everybody... I'd like a copy too just in case clapper 
>   > 008 would fold.
>   > 
>   > -- 
>   > electronically yours, jesper
>   > 
>   > - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
>   > www.electronic-obsession.se
>   >
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Analog ClapTrap

2010-03-30 by Michael Buchner

Hello Richard and all others,
it's time to think. Yes, I was indeed very "thin-skinned" (as we say in germany) about the publishing of this components sheet of the claptrap (Was there anybody noticing, that this components sheet was the MUSICAID ClapTrap without humaniser, not the Simmons Mark 1 :-)?
I was really angry, but this has other reasons:
There are many members having schematics, eproms, knowledge a.s.o.. They simply sit and read the posts, glad that they have so much more information than the rest. Sharing something? Nope! If I ask for something, I get replies like "what are you willing to pay for it?". Yes, I wait for the SDS6 CPU board schematics. Still!!! I know, who is the one who has these and doesn't want to share them! I also know the guy who downloaded my private eprom binaries (...fat kick...) and now sells them on ebay!
Black sheep? 
What would you think about doing some things together, like buing the large collection of eproms on ebay, making copies for each one in this group. Sharing schematics and giving help. Building up a real database. But it can't be, that only a handful of members is willing to keep the spirit alive and the others simply participate and turn thumbs.
Another fact is, that many members of our group are doing the same research and documentation work. So the SDSV hihat and cymbal theme, schematics, cloning a.s.o.. I have also finished this until 95%, and I am quite ready to clone an SDSV as I did it with SDS3. Why can't we work together? I gave the REAL schematics of the SDS3 to anybody who asked for it. But there was no favour I got back. Simply NOTHING. There are only few people I can work together, my main man is Thierry EPPHERRE from France, we share everything (but our girl friends).
So I hope, you understand my reaction better now. One day I will get the schematics of the SDS6 CPU and I will take revenge and: publish it unauthorized!!
Have a nice day.
Michael
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: jabathaslut 
  To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 11:14 PM
  Subject: [Simmons Drums] Re: Analog ClapTrap


    
  Sorry Michael if I offended. I made a note in a text in the folder
  that the items did not come from me. I had them a on a CD I have many 
  manual scans on and the files were dated from 2 years ago.

  I did not intend to simply post anyone's personal work and had I known it had come from someone on this list I certainly would have asked first.

  I have removed the offending item as well as the schematic (due to not knowing it's source)

  I was simply trying to assist in a group member repairing his unit.

  I apologize for the indiscretion and will refrain from further posting
  of schematics and info etc.

  I don't understand why people become "touchy" about things like this.
  I have spent 30yrs of my life repairing and assisting people in keeping the older gear running. I too have spent many hours at my expense retracing pcb's etc and have them all on file. My most recent
  effort I mentioned on this group and pertains to a complete reverse engineering of the SDSV. I have 95% completed this and at this point if someone wanted to build a complete SDDSV from my info they could.(including the hihat and cymbals)

  I was in the process of putting together a WEB Site to make my work available but as of this point I think I will refrain.

  Again sorry for causing you the concern. If you had contacted me off group I would have dealt with it.

  Cheers

  Richard

  --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Buchner" <buchnerelectronics@...> wrote:
  >
  > Thanks for unauthorised publishing my work. I have to be a little more careful spreading my info and help next time.
  > Michael
  > 
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: jabathaslut 
  > To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com 
  > Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 11:01 PM
  > Subject: [Simmons Drums] Re: Analog ClapTrap
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > Iv'e shoved them into a folder in the files area as per your request.
  > If guys or gals can add internal photo's etc it would be great for all who need this sort of info
  > 
  > cheers
  > 
  > Richard
  > 
  > --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, jesper <jesper@> wrote:
  > >
  > > jabathaslut skrev:
  > > > 
  > > > 
  > > > Hi,
  > > > 
  > > > I have a nice copy of the analog claptrap schematic (not from a 
  > > > commercial dealer so no probs with giving it away) so if you contact me 
  > > > off group I'll see if I can help u out..=)
  > > 
  > > Please share with everybody... I'd like a copy too just in case clapper 
  > > 008 would fold.
  > > 
  > > -- 
  > > electronically yours, jesper
  > > 
  > > - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
  > > www.electronic-obsession.se
  > >
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
  >



  

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Analog ClapTrap

2010-03-30 by Thomas Heckmann

I totally agree with you, Michael !

Thomas

On Mar 30, 2010, at 2:54 AM, Michael Buchner wrote:

Hello Richard and all others,
it's time to think. Yes, I was indeed very "thin-skinned" (as we say  
in germany) about the publishing of this components sheet of the  
claptrap (Was there anybody noticing, that this components sheet was  
the MUSICAID ClapTrap without humaniser, not the Simmons Mark 1 :-)?
I was really angry, but this has other reasons:
There are many members having schematics, eproms, knowledge a.s.o..  
They simply sit and read the posts, glad that they have so much more  
information than the rest. Sharing something? Nope! If I ask for  
something, I get replies like "what are you willing to pay for it?".  
Yes, I wait for the SDS6 CPU board schematics. Still!!! I know, who  
is the one who has these and doesn't want to share them! I also know  
the guy who downloaded my private eprom binaries (...fat kick...) and  
now sells them on ebay!
Black sheep?
What would you think about doing some things together, like buing the  
large collection of eproms on ebay, making copies for each one in  
this group. Sharing schematics and giving help. Building up a real  
database. But it can't be, that only a handful of members is willing  
to keep the spirit alive and the others simply participate and turn  
thumbs.
Another fact is, that many members of our group are doing the same  
research and documentation work. So the SDSV hihat and cymbal theme,  
schematics, cloning a.s.o.. I have also finished this until 95%, and  
I am quite ready to clone an SDSV as I did it with SDS3. Why can't we  
work together? I gave the REAL schematics of the SDS3 to anybody who  
asked for it. But there was no favour I got back. Simply NOTHING.  
There are only few people I can work together, my main man is Thierry  
EPPHERRE from France, we share everything (but our girl friends).
So I hope, you understand my reaction better now. One day I will get  
the schematics of the SDS6 CPU and I will take revenge and: publish  
it unauthorized!!
Have a nice day.
Michael
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   ----- Original Message -----
   From: jabathaslut
   To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 11:14 PM
   Subject: [Simmons Drums] Re: Analog ClapTrap



   Sorry Michael if I offended. I made a note in a text in the folder
   that the items did not come from me. I had them a on a CD I have many
   manual scans on and the files were dated from 2 years ago.

   I did not intend to simply post anyone's personal work and had I  
known it had come from someone on this list I certainly would have  
asked first.

   I have removed the offending item as well as the schematic (due to  
not knowing it's source)

   I was simply trying to assist in a group member repairing his unit.

   I apologize for the indiscretion and will refrain from further  
posting
   of schematics and info etc.

   I don't understand why people become "touchy" about things like this.
   I have spent 30yrs of my life repairing and assisting people in  
keeping the older gear running. I too have spent many hours at my  
expense retracing pcb's etc and have them all on file. My most recent
   effort I mentioned on this group and pertains to a complete  
reverse engineering of the SDSV. I have 95% completed this and at  
this point if someone wanted to build a complete SDDSV from my info  
they could.(including the hihat and cymbals)

   I was in the process of putting together a WEB Site to make my  
work available but as of this point I think I will refrain.

   Again sorry for causing you the concern. If you had contacted me  
off group I would have dealt with it.

   Cheers

   Richard

   --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Buchner"  
<buchnerelectronics@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for unauthorised publishing my work. I have to be a little  
> more careful spreading my info and help next time.
> Michael
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: jabathaslut
> To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 11:01 PM
> Subject: [Simmons Drums] Re: Analog ClapTrap
>
>
>
> Iv'e shoved them into a folder in the files area as per your request.
> If guys or gals can add internal photo's etc it would be great for  
> all who need this sort of info
>
> cheers
>
> Richard
>
> --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, jesper <jesper@> wrote:
>>
>> jabathaslut skrev:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have a nice copy of the analog claptrap schematic (not from a
>>> commercial dealer so no probs with giving it away) so if you  
>>> contact me
>>> off group I'll see if I can help u out..=)
>>
>> Please share with everybody... I'd like a copy too just in case  
>> clapper
>> 008 would fold.
>>
>> -- 
>> electronically yours, jesper
>>
>> - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
>> www.electronic-obsession.se
>>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





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Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Analog ClapTrap

2010-04-06 by jesper

Regarding sharing - I feel everyone should, as long as it's not 
copyrighted stuff. But yes, there is a real problem with people selling 
this info on the net. I certainly feel for Michael regarding the eprom 
business...

In my case I've held on to a few rare schematics (nothing Simmons 
related though) but have traded for other goodies when I needed such. 
There was no service manual/schematics on the net for the Yamaha SS-30 
when I needed one, but waving with a (for the time) rare schematic for 
the Pearl SY-1 solved my problem.

Anyway, just let me know if there is anything you need when it comes to 
Simmons material that I might be able to supply. I at least found the 
story behind the mysterious kill decay socket for the SDS-3. :)

(When large companies like Spotify just crush the copyright laws under 
their gigantic feet I can understand that average Joe feels he can do 
the same.)

My two ören,
-- 
electronically yours, jesper

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