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I totally agree with you, Michael !

Thomas

On Mar 30, 2010, at 2:54 AM, Michael Buchner wrote:

Hello Richard and all others,
it's time to think. Yes, I was indeed very "thin-skinned" (as we say  
in germany) about the publishing of this components sheet of the  
claptrap (Was there anybody noticing, that this components sheet was  
the MUSICAID ClapTrap without humaniser, not the Simmons Mark 1 :-)?
I was really angry, but this has other reasons:
There are many members having schematics, eproms, knowledge a.s.o..  
They simply sit and read the posts, glad that they have so much more  
information than the rest. Sharing something? Nope! If I ask for  
something, I get replies like "what are you willing to pay for it?".  
Yes, I wait for the SDS6 CPU board schematics. Still!!! I know, who  
is the one who has these and doesn't want to share them! I also know  
the guy who downloaded my private eprom binaries (...fat kick...) and  
now sells them on ebay!
Black sheep?
What would you think about doing some things together, like buing the  
large collection of eproms on ebay, making copies for each one in  
this group. Sharing schematics and giving help. Building up a real  
database. But it can't be, that only a handful of members is willing  
to keep the spirit alive and the others simply participate and turn  
thumbs.
Another fact is, that many members of our group are doing the same  
research and documentation work. So the SDSV hihat and cymbal theme,  
schematics, cloning a.s.o.. I have also finished this until 95%, and  
I am quite ready to clone an SDSV as I did it with SDS3. Why can't we  
work together? I gave the REAL schematics of the SDS3 to anybody who  
asked for it. But there was no favour I got back. Simply NOTHING.  
There are only few people I can work together, my main man is Thierry  
EPPHERRE from France, we share everything (but our girl friends).
So I hope, you understand my reaction better now. One day I will get  
the schematics of the SDS6 CPU and I will take revenge and: publish  
it unauthorized!!
Have a nice day.
Michael


   ----- Original Message -----
   From: jabathaslut
   To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 11:14 PM
   Subject: [Simmons Drums] Re: Analog ClapTrap



   Sorry Michael if I offended. I made a note in a text in the folder
   that the items did not come from me. I had them a on a CD I have many
   manual scans on and the files were dated from 2 years ago.

   I did not intend to simply post anyone's personal work and had I  
known it had come from someone on this list I certainly would have  
asked first.

   I have removed the offending item as well as the schematic (due to  
not knowing it's source)

   I was simply trying to assist in a group member repairing his unit.

   I apologize for the indiscretion and will refrain from further  
posting
   of schematics and info etc.

   I don't understand why people become "touchy" about things like this.
   I have spent 30yrs of my life repairing and assisting people in  
keeping the older gear running. I too have spent many hours at my  
expense retracing pcb's etc and have them all on file. My most recent
   effort I mentioned on this group and pertains to a complete  
reverse engineering of the SDSV. I have 95% completed this and at  
this point if someone wanted to build a complete SDDSV from my info  
they could.(including the hihat and cymbals)

   I was in the process of putting together a WEB Site to make my  
work available but as of this point I think I will refrain.

   Again sorry for causing you the concern. If you had contacted me  
off group I would have dealt with it.

   Cheers

   Richard

   --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Buchner"  
<buchnerelectronics@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for unauthorised publishing my work. I have to be a little  
> more careful spreading my info and help next time.
> Michael
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: jabathaslut
> To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 11:01 PM
> Subject: [Simmons Drums] Re: Analog ClapTrap
>
>
>
> Iv'e shoved them into a folder in the files area as per your request.
> If guys or gals can add internal photo's etc it would be great for  
> all who need this sort of info
>
> cheers
>
> Richard
>
> --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, jesper <jesper@> wrote:
>>
>> jabathaslut skrev:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have a nice copy of the analog claptrap schematic (not from a
>>> commercial dealer so no probs with giving it away) so if you  
>>> contact me
>>> off group I'll see if I can help u out..=)
>>
>> Please share with everybody... I'd like a copy too just in case  
>> clapper
>> 008 would fold.
>>
>> -- 
>> electronically yours, jesper
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>> www.electronic-obsession.se
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