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suitcase now on ebay

2008-04-28 by jesper

Or is it another one?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250242118895&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123

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Re: [Simmons Drums] suitcase now on ebay

2008-04-28 by rolandbrenner@netzero.net

Curious. What was the original application intention for this thing? It looks like it may dub as a non-midi multipad, but seems to have no way of mounting it practically. I must assume it was meant for a tabletop or something? Too bad the sound modules weren't built in as well. - Roland
 
PS - I wonder what customs would think if one were to try and drag this through the airport !!!

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Re: [Simmons Drums] suitcase now on ebay

2008-04-28 by Patrice Jacquot

This was done for a studio (or travel) use to trigg the SDSV from a  
compact multipad...

Maybe the first multipad in fact...

BUT...   the Crosstalk beween pads was terrible...(bc of the same  
polycarbonate surface as the original pads...)

so it's a very Nice object, but quite unusable I'm afraid...& still  
this terrible touch as well...

Unless you don't know anything about it & think It will solve all your  
trigging problems ...
but It might bring some new ones... ;- )


I wonder why the seller didn't sell it for £400   ...?...  :-))))))


Patrice.






Le 28 avr. 08 à 19:22, rolandbrenner@... a écrit :

> Curious. What was the original application intention for this thing?  
> It looks like it may dub as a non-midi multipad, but seems to have  
> no way of mounting it practically. I must assume it was meant for a  
> tabletop or something? Too bad the sound modules weren't built in as  
> well. - Roland
>
> PS - I wonder what customs would think if one were to try and drag  
> this through the airport !!!
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Re: [Simmons Drums] suitcase now on ebay

2008-04-28 by rolandbrenner@netzero.net

Kind of stupid on my part, I offered him $500 USD thinking it had modules in it !!! I agree, he should have taken that ( roughly $1,400 USD ? ) cash if that offer was in fact true. I paid much less than that for my entire SDX system.
 
I still wonder what the reaction would be from customs if you had to open it for them.
 
- Roland

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Re: [Simmons Drums] suitcase now on ebay

2008-04-28 by blacklodgeed

While I've never had crosstalk problems with mine, the foam deterioration would be my 
point of caution. As the foam ages it breaks down terribly. Mine is almost unusable now. 
The pads sink deeper into the foam with every hit as it has lost most of its elasticity. It's a 
cool piece of gear but I wouldn't recommend it for practical usage applications. And that's 
crazy money for a display item.

--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, Patrice Jacquot <Jacquot.Patrice@...> wrote:
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> This was done for a studio (or travel) use to trigg the SDSV from a  
> compact multipad...
> 
> Maybe the first multipad in fact...
> 
> BUT...   the Crosstalk beween pads was terrible...(bc of the same  
> polycarbonate surface as the original pads...)
> 
> so it's a very Nice object, but quite unusable I'm afraid...& still  
> this terrible touch as well...
> 
> Unless you don't know anything about it & think It will solve all your  
> trigging problems ...
> but It might bring some new ones... ;- )
> 
> 
> I wonder why the seller didn't sell it for £400   ...?...  :-))))))
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> Patrice.
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> Le 28 avr. 08 à 19:22, rolandbrenner@... a écrit :
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> > Curious. What was the original application intention for this thing?  
> > It looks like it may dub as a non-midi multipad, but seems to have  
> > no way of mounting it practically. I must assume it was meant for a  
> > tabletop or something? Too bad the sound modules weren't built in as  
> > well. - Roland
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> > PS - I wonder what customs would think if one were to try and drag  
> > this through the airport !!!
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Re: [Simmons Drums] suitcase now on ebay

2008-04-28 by jesper

blacklodgeed skrev:
> While I've never had crosstalk problems with mine, the foam 
> deterioration would be my
> point of caution. As the foam ages it breaks down terribly. Mine is 
> almost unusable now.
> The pads sink deeper into the foam with every hit as it has lost most of 
> its elasticity. It's a
> cool piece of gear but I wouldn't recommend it for practical usage 
> applications. And that's
> crazy money for a display item.

Scary... foam is a crappy material over years. Many synthesizers suffer 
from FRS - foam rot syndrome. On the Chromalist it's a problem almost 
everyone has heard of. Nice cherry end cheeks and sticky black foam is 
not a nice comination... :(

The suitcase kit looks extremely cool though and I guess you can refoam 
it at your local camera case designer or similar. I used to live close 
to a store which only cut foam from morning 'til night.

Bordering on on-topic: I got my Drumfire delivered by DHL today. Not the 
quite common two channel unit seen on Ebay from time to time but the 
five channel desktop version, similar to the SDS-8. Crunchy and 
outworldly sound, similar to my UP K2-X. It came in the original box 
which was a nice surprise since I missed that part of the auction... :D

http://www.spheremusic.com/userimages/Img5795.jpg

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Re: [Simmons Drums] suitcase now on ebay

2008-04-28 by Patrice Jacquot

In what context did you use it ?
I think there's a trigger module that is offering a suitcase  
connection (TMI maybe ) to get some clean signal from each pads...
I must have read that crosstalk problem in the Simmons book or  
whatever ...
Maybe Bob talked about the use with huge monitors systems...

Anyway,
Thanks for sharing your experience...

Patrice.



Le 29 avr. 08 à 00:11, blacklodgeed a écrit :

> While I've never had crosstalk problems with mine, the foam  
> deterioration would be my
> point of caution. As the foam ages it breaks down terribly. Mine is  
> almost unusable now.
> The pads sink deeper into the foam with every hit as it has lost  
> most of its elasticity. It's a
> cool piece of gear but I wouldn't recommend it for practical usage  
> applications. And that's
> crazy money for a display item.
>
> --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, Patrice Jacquot  
> <Jacquot.Patrice@...> wrote:
> >
> > This was done for a studio (or travel) use to trigg the SDSV from a
> > compact multipad...
> >
> > Maybe the first multipad in fact...
> >
> > BUT... the Crosstalk beween pads was terrible...(bc of the same
> > polycarbonate surface as the original pads...)
> >
> > so it's a very Nice object, but quite unusable I'm afraid...& still
> > this terrible touch as well...
> >
> > Unless you don't know anything about it & think It will solve all  
> your
> > trigging problems ...
> > but It might bring some new ones... ;- )
> >
> >
> > I wonder why the seller didn't sell it for £400 ...?... :-))))))
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> > > Curious. What was the original application intention for this  
> thing?
> > > It looks like it may dub as a non-midi multipad, but seems to have
> > > no way of mounting it practically. I must assume it was meant  
> for a
> > > tabletop or something? Too bad the sound modules weren't built  
> in as
> > > well. - Roland
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> > > PS - I wonder what customs would think if one were to try and drag
> > > this through the airport !!!
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Re: [Simmons Drums] suitcase now on ebay

2008-04-28 by Patrice Jacquot

I paid much less than that for my entire SDX system.


Thanks roland, this is exactly what I wanted to point ...

;- )




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Re: [Simmons Drums] suitcase now on ebay

2008-04-29 by jesper

Patrice Jacquot skrev:
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> In what context did you use it ?
> I think there's a trigger module that is offering a suitcase
> connection (TMI maybe ) to get some clean signal from each pads...
> I must have read that crosstalk problem in the Simmons book or
> whatever ...

Yes, I think the TMI's got a suitcase input. I can check later tonight 
if you want it confirmed (at work now).

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Re: suitcase now on ebay

2008-04-29 by superwolle70

exactly. Same interface as the SDS8, SDS9, 200/400/800 have. The way
the connection cable suitcase kit -> TMI needs to be wired is
explained in the SDS800 manual on page 16 (I could not find it in the
TMI manual for whatever reason, probably I am too blind...). 
Suitcae2midi, interesting project...


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> Patrice Jacquot skrev:
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> > 
> > In what context did you use it ?
> > I think there's a trigger module that is offering a suitcase
> > connection (TMI maybe ) to get some clean signal from each pads...
> > I must have read that crosstalk problem in the Simmons book or
> > whatever ...
> 
> Yes, I think the TMI's got a suitcase input. I can check later tonight 
> if you want it confirmed (at work now).
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Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: suitcase now on ebay

2008-04-29 by Patrice Jacquot

But it must be a weird cable ...
Anyone would have the connection schematic...?



Le 29 avr. 08 à 12:14, superwolle70 a écrit :

> exactly. Same interface as the SDS8, SDS9, 200/400/800 have. The way
> the connection cable suitcase kit -> TMI needs to be wired is
> explained in the SDS800 manual on page 16 (I could not find it in the
> TMI manual for whatever reason, probably I am too blind...).
> Suitcae2midi, interesting project...
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> --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, jesper <jesper@...> wrote:
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> > Patrice Jacquot skrev:
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> > > In what context did you use it ?
> > > I think there's a trigger module that is offering a suitcase
> > > connection (TMI maybe ) to get some clean signal from each pads...
> > > I must have read that crosstalk problem in the Simmons book or
> > > whatever ...
> >
> > Yes, I think the TMI's got a suitcase input. I can check later  
> tonight
> > if you want it confirmed (at work now).
> >
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