Vintage Simmons Drums (UK) Users Group

I'd go for a "techier" kick sound. More electronic sounding with a clear 
click. Compressing something that's in the same spectrum as something 
else won't help as much as an entire re-think. My problem (in an all 
electronic setup) is that I love the lower octaves too much. It's easy 
to make the mix sound as if someone put a wet rag over the speakers...

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electronically yours, jesper

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dion olivier skrev 2010-12-08 21:08:
> Thanks for the info everyone, very pleased to see this community is active.
>
> I am the bass player, and since I used a lot of lowpass / octave down / bass
> synth oriented effects I have to be very careful not to invade the spectrum
> of the kick and floor tom which are tuned on the SDS 400 pretty low. I've
> been experimenting with EQ, but it's hard as we like the bass to be very
> subby and felt just as much as heard, along with the drums.
>
> The guitarist also use a lot of effects but mostly in the treblier, more
> atmospheric range so we rarely have to worry about him.
>
> Thanks for the compressor model suggestions, any advice on how to set the
> threshold / attack / release etc? I'm thinking it might be best to squash
> the hell out of the SDS 400 so that every strike on the triggered acoustic
> set will always be registered by the SDS. The biggest problem is that the
> lighter touch of my drummer on less intense songs doesn't trigger the unit.
> I'm going to experiment with running a dual compressor on each output of my
> mixer vs compress just the floor tom and kick.
>
> The PA we use in our practice space is similar in power to what was
> suggested: a 250x2w power amp with a JBL 2x15 PA cabinet and a Mackie
> powered sub. The Simmons kit is definitely very loud through this setup but
> at small venues we run into problems using their PAs.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Berk Aarts <B.E.R.K@...
> <mailto:B.E.R.K%4012move.nl>> wrote:
>
>  > Got me a 28 inch bassdrum , keeps the bass player quiet, got me a piccolo
>  > snare for the guitarplayer and earplugs for myself (20 years already );-)
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > >-- Oorspronkelijk bericht --
>  > >To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Simmons_Drums%40yahoogroups.com>
>  > >From: jesper <jesper@...
> <mailto:jesper%40electronic-obsession.se>>
>  > >Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2010 15:13:39 +0100
>  > >Subject: Re: Betr: [Simmons Drums] SDS 400 used live in a loud band, any
>  > >tips?
>  > >Reply-To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Simmons_Drums%40yahoogroups.com>
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >Berk Aarts skrev 2010-12-07 09:10:
>  > >> Hi
>  > >> I've allways been a drummer, while playing the loudest instrument,
>  > havinh
>  > >> trouble hearing my own snaredrum for example.
>  > >> One thing that really helps (and I learned this from working as an
>  > soundengineer)
>  > >> is pointing the guitarspeaker to where it should be pointed at,
> the EARS
>  > >> off the guitarplayer. Normally he (they are allmost certain men) will
>  > put
>  > >> levels down (and I mean way down)
>  > >
>  > >Oh yes!
>  > >
>  > >If there's one book you should put on your wishlist for christmas, it's
>  >
>  > >this one: http://mixingwithyourmind.com/
>  > >Plenty of useful hints and not just "tricks" but also all the psychology
>  > >
>  > >behind how we experience and hear sound. I loved it.
>  > >
>  > >Or, alternative B: kick the guitarist!!!
>  > >
>  > >--
>  > >electronically yours, jesper
>  > >
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