Vintage Simmons Drums (UK) Users Group

they would !   & no zoning ....



Le 12 sept. 09 à 16:57, hamsterdrum85 a écrit :

> Back in 2002, I have seen a picture of an SDX kit that used the Hexa  
> Head, SDS2000, and Mini Hex pads here http://www.sub-sound.co.uk/sdxdetails.html
>
> This was before I ever saw the actual pads that went to the set and  
> when I was doing more research on Simmons drum kits when I was on  
> the hunt for a Simmons drum kit back then.
>
> I am wondering if the response would be completely different from  
> the ZI pads that were made for the unit. I think they would.
>
> --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "Berk Aarts" <B.E.R.K@...>  
> wrote:
> >
> > you still need one controller per pad, and what's the use?
> > Why trying to emulate something that isn't there. A pad from say a  
> spd20
> > or trixer is to small, so no zoning possible
> > Take a Yamaha A3000 and assign 6 controllers up to velocity, that  
> makes a
> > hell off nice sounds!! believe me, no music, but nice noise haahaaha
> > Joking, this really works great
> >
> > Berk
> >
> >
> > >-- Oorspronkelijk bericht --
> > >To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
> > >From: Patrice Jacquot <Jacquot.Patrice@...>
> > >Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 00:06:02 +0200
> > >Subject: Re: Betr: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Use any simmon pads  
> with sdx?
> > >Reply-To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
> > >
> > >
> > >or modulation values edited on a drumkat ... followong the  
> pads... the
> >
> > >pressure...the hh pedal ...the breathcontroller... the D-Beam  
> from a
> > >Roland system ...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Le 11 sept. 09 à 23:52, Patrice Jacquot a écrit :
> > >
> > >> what about a continuous signal pedal ?
> > >>
> > >> Le 11 sept. 09 à 23:50, Berk Aarts a écrit :
> > >>
> > >> > I opened a SDX pad a few times
> > >> > IMO they are FSR's, but they sense the positioning by a kind  
> off
> > >> > wireframe
> > >> > underneath the foil. The positioning information is send as
> > >> > modulation info
> > >> > on the midi out.(for sequencing etc). Sequencing made every  
> computer
> > >> > go wild
> > >> > (and crash) since there was to much information on the midi  
> going
> > >> on.
> > >> > So sending back modulation while hitting a pad might give the
> > >> > positional
> > >> > sensing idea. BUT: me as a drummer needs both hands to play the
> > >> > drums, so
> > >> > no hand free for tweaking a modulation wheel. And you would  
> need a
> > >> > wheel
> > >> > for every pad
> > >> > Still the SDX is great!!
> > >> >
> > >> > Berk
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >> -- Oorspronkelijk bericht --
> > >> >> To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
> > >> >> From: Patrice Jacquot <Jacquot.Patrice@...>
> > >> >> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 22:10:27 +0200
> > >> >> Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Use any simmon pads with sdx?
> > >> >> Reply-To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Dave told me years ago that FSR's on the pads are sending a
> > >> >> modulation
> > >> >
> > >> >> signal following the hit position..
> > >> >> We could probably trig positions via midi if using a  
> modulation
> > >> >> signal in add ...
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Le 11 sept. 09 à 21:21, superwolle70 a écrit :
> > >> >>
> > >> >>> portakit and SDX only work together via midi, but the  
> Portakit
> > >> does
> > >> >>> not support positional sensing as the SDX does. Although both
> > >> >>> provide FSR foils for triggering, the only reason why FSRs  
> had
> > >> been
> > >> >>> used in the Portakit was in order to avoid cross  
> triggering. It's
> > >> >>> just the same as today's Roland SPD20: It also uses FSR
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "jimstew37"  
> <jimstew37@>
> > >> >>> wrote:
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> How well does something like the Portakit (or DrumKat, for  
> that
> > >> >>> matter) work with the SDX? They both use FSR, although I  
> don't
> > >> know
> > >> >>> about "zone intelligence." I'm guessing that the zones  
> otherwise
> >
> > >> on
> > >> >>> an SDX pad could then be spread out among different pads or
> > >> surfaces
> > >> >
> > >> >>> on the Portakit?
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> Jim Stewart
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "superwolle70"
> > >> >>> <superwolle70@> wrote:
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> you can trigger the sdx with any mono pad, but you won't  
> get
> > >> >>> positional sensing
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "morrisphilco"
> > >> >>> <morrisphilco@> wrote:
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>> Is it possible to use any kind of simmons pad with an  
> sdx or
> > >> >>> does it have to be sdx pads?
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
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