Vintage Simmons Drums (UK) Users Group

Hehe  =)
I agree completely Roland , 
i Can assure you my drums are not angled in a crazy degrees ,
Those long stroke rolls with simmons are just too addictive !
As you mentioned , The sdsv pads are indeed good for toms , 
The bassdrum doesn't feel all too good and as snare i use a real one anyway .
Can't remember the name of the person but i remember the set i bought was from someone in this group , superwolle ?
There is just something about the sds7 bassdrum i find great , 
sds7 in general to me , (and don't get me wrong all you sdsv fans ! )
speaks most as an 80's  brain , Neil peart's work on powerwindows , Bill Bruford with king crimson's three of a perfect pair are my absolutely fav albums just to mention a few .
 Had the great luck of finding one in south korea ! ,
I presume the cards were well damaged so was the backboard , 
But thanks to Michael Buchner , he managed to solve a huge list of problems !
It just arrived back today , ( so michael if ur reading this vielen dank!)

But yes Roland ,
I think the easiest thing to do is an exchange with someone who takes good care of their pads , state of the rubber is very important .
I don't have any pictures of the pads yet , i will make some asap .
Take Care Roland
Sander



--- On Wed, 10/12/08, rolandbrenner@... <rolandbrenner@...> wrote:

> From: rolandbrenner@... <rolandbrenner@...>
> Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] As the ad says, "Vintage Simmons Drums Pile of Stu    ff"
> To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, 10 December, 2008, 4:49 AM
> What a great discussion !!!
>  
> I think if you really give this some serious thought
> Sander, you will realise that the angle in which you strike
> something has more than "little to do" with
> technique as far as fatigue goes. I'm not trying to
> argue, it's just a simple fact. The way the human bone
> and muscle structure absorbs and emits energy is something
> not to be ignored. There's actually a drum stick
> manufacturer ( doctor ) that rotationally balances his
> sticks in order to perfect the way one's hand and wrist
> repeatedly strikes a surface with regards to all of this. If
> you gig regularly like I do, try setting up your toms at 45
> degrees each and observe what happens to you over time.
>  
> Anyway, the balance you are looking for still seems to be
> with the SDS9 series and not the 7's according to what
> you are describing here. That is unless there's
> something I'm not understanding. The 9's have a
> floating surface which the 7's do not. If wrist fatigue
> is one of your issues, the 9's are a much better
> alternative ( give ) and look 95% the same cosmetically.
> Much better mounts to boot. I personally don't mind the
> feel of the v's, but only for toms since they are
> non-repetetive in terms of how often you strike them. Also,
> the reality with the v's is their strength and power is
> in the sound of the toms anyway, so there you go !!!
>  
> There's no doubt in my mind that the v's are hard,
> but then again so are ice bells, chimes, rims, cymbals,
> cymbal bells, wood blocks, stands ( courtesy, Buddy Rich ),
> etc. etc. etc. As you stated, they ( v's ) probably just
> aren't for you.
>  
> Anyway, at a starting bid of only 99 cents USD for those
> 7's, you may want to consider contacting this seller for
> shipping arrangements. It might still be worth your while if
> you really want them.
>  
> Or, those who want some great SDSV pads, consider buying
> these 7's and trading with Saunder. Send us some pics of
> what you have please as I may take you up on that deal,
> although I'm currently busy beyond belief.
>  
> Peace,
>  
> - Roland
>  
> 
> It has little to do with the angle of the drum ,
> its the vibrating shock which the surface of the drums
> sends back into your stick through to your wrist which
> cannot be absorbed aswell when
> playing stroke rolls single strokes ,
> I remember reading somewhere this was often the case for
> meny drummers ,
> including bill bruford !
> on top of that the feel isn't too great , neither are
> the loud chick sounds ,
> I wonder why i bought these drums in the first place ? =p
> Thank you for the link Roland ! 
> unfortunately shipping from amerika isn't too great...
> hope to bump into this kit one day =
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQOJny6oy7A&feature=relatedÂ
> =p
> 
> Sander 
> 
> 
> - Roland
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