SergeModular

Les wrote:

>I've got no problem with the width they are when included in a full panel.
>You'd want them to not vary from what's current so they'd match panels you
>already own, right?

I guess they could be made to the 1" format.

>You'd simply use a "frac-rack" type mounting for them.

Screws into rails? I've never had a frac-rack

>My opinion anyway. Rex has stated in the past that this will happen when the
>moon turns to cheeze.

May be true, but what if someone else made modules that were compatible with
the Serge philosophy, yet available as individual modules?

The reason I have been asking is because I have been contemplating releasing
some of my circuits in something like the Serge format. The primary problem
I have is the limited number I could produce. On one hand I could produce a
full serge-width panel with a selection of modules as chosen by me, though
this would only have so much appeal. The other route would be to release
modules individually, though the problem with going this way is that the
number of each type would be dictated by purchases, and in small runs, this
is a pain.



Chris Whitten wrote:

>
>> For that matter, how many people would be interested in buying modules
>> produced by other companies if they fit into the serge format either as sub
>> panels, or full panels?
>I'd say probably most Serge owners and many people who can't currently
>afford a 'starter' panel.

I'd like to hear people's oppinions, here. How many list members would be
interested? (I'm just feeling the waters here - I'm not expecting anyone to
commit!)


John Loffink wrote:

>Let's remember that none of these folks are getting rich from this, most
>don't even earn a living from it.

You don't say! The positive side is that for some of us, our R&D doesn't
have to be justified by our returns.

>Special requests such as individually
>mounted Serge panels will require hundreds of hours of re-packaging
>effort. If you look behind a Serge panel you will realize that
>repackaging is not as simple a request as it sounds.

Some redesigning would partially aleviate the problem. There is too much
hand wiring involved, and im my experience, that is the main labor cost.


Ken
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> May be true, but what if someone else made modules that were compatible with
> the Serge philosophy, yet available as individual modules?

It depends what you mean by 'compatible'.
As far as I'm concerned you would have to offer something different from
ModCan. Some of Bruce's modules are extremely 'compatible' (as in the
Boolean Logic) others, like filters and digi oscillators offer something not
available from STS. The ModCan modules *are* available singularly which
makes ModCan a very attractive option for some Serge owners.
As far as format is concerned, there is no point making something the same
size as a Serge panel IMO because they are all entities unto themselves.
Analogue Systems did a very clever thing designing their modules to fit the
Doepfer case, making the separate purchase of yet another racking system
unnecessary. You could make your modules compatible with Doepfer racking or
the Frac Rack, even more wildly the ModCan rack or heaven forbid (judging by
the heat on the web at the moment) MOTM.
CW

:> The reason I have been asking is because I have been
:> contemplating releasing some of my circuits in
:> something like the Serge format.

That's OK. Cynthia is building two burst generators in Modcan format with my
name on them. Trying to talk her into a Psycho LFO as well.


:> My opinion anyway. Rex has stated in the past that this will
:> happen when the moon turns to cheeze.
:>
:> May be true

Actually, that was Rex's exact words during a phone conversation with him.
He wqs pretty darned adamant about it too. Then he went off on a tangent
about fishing or something. Took me almost an hour to get off the phone with
him!

In a message dated 6/25/02 2:47:39 AM, lesmizz@... writes:

<<
Actually, that was Rex's exact words during a phone conversation with him.
He wqs pretty darned adamant about it too. Then he went off on a tangent
about fishing or something. Took me almost an hour to get off the phone with
him! >>

LMAO!!!! you've had that experience too huh???? sometimes the dude really
knows how to rack up my phone bill. LOL
I think i really started a firestorm of sorts with that post last week...
really brought everyone out of the woodwork.... that's a good thing.
Seems as thought everyone miised the last paragraph which indicated that
what Rex really wanted at the time was just to build custom panels one at a
time on a very limited basis and he may yet get back to that. The bottom line
here folks is that he doesn't want this to become a "real" business. Yea i
know that he already IS in business so to speak, but you know what i mean. At
the end of the "Oakland" period he was in it almost 24 a day and he hated it.
So when he did need to unwind he would REALLY unwind. That's no way to live;
especially when you get to be over 50..... I should know LOL!!.
He's trying to find the balance between making the "cottage industry" keep
him alive and haveing a life outside of STS. Does this make any sense???
Kind regards
John DuVal

Les Mizzell wrote:

>:> My opinion anyway. Rex has stated in the past that this will
>:> happen when the moon turns to cheeze.
>:>
>:> May be true
>
>Actually, that was Rex's exact words during a phone conversation with him.
>He wqs pretty darned adamant about it too. Then he went off on a tangent
>about fishing or something. Took me almost an hour to get off the phone with
>him!

Didn't mean to question your word - you just misunderstood an "Australianism" :)

May be I shoud have written "okay, but what about..." instead.

Ken

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> especially when you get to be over 50..... I should know LOL!!.
> He's trying to find the balance between making the "cottage
> industry" keep him alive and haveing a life outside of STS. Does
> this make any sense???

I understand the desire to
avoid legal, insurance,
organizational, and taxation
hassles by remaining a "cottage"
industry. On the other hand,
the current demand for synthesizer
modules must be high as there
are more than 1/2-a-dozen
manufacturers in the game. I
think it is unfortunate that
the STS panels are priced out
of a large portion of that
market share.

Ethan

:> Didn't mean to question your word - you just misunderstood an
:> "Australianism" :)



Heh! I didn't think you were questioning me! It's just that Rex is such a
hoot to talk to on the phone, *if* you can ever get him.

If you *do* get him on the phone, you may be VERY sorry unless you've got
the afternoon free!!!

It's not your "Australianism", it's probably my Redneck Southern' Heritage
instead. Damn I'm trying to toss it off though, ya know?


Les