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Stooge Panel Announcements, et al

Stooge Panel Announcements, et al

2003-02-18 by mbedtom@aol.com

JLH Wrote:
"My question is does anyone have any objection to my mentioning the availability of our product on this list?  I do no want to intrude or appear to be pushing our product over Schaeffer."

I am a huge stooge panel fan and, speaking for myself, would love to hear about "the next run".  Actually, anything panel related interests me!


Most of my panel wants are for modules that don't commercially exist or are for select Oakley modules.  But I have to ask, what sort of panels might fall into the "illegal" category of panels?  I can think of one panel I have in mind that might be "bad"... I want a fixed filter bank similar to but not exactly like Paul's upcoming FFB.  Is that one "illegal"?  Paul published a silkscreen of the component layout for his FFB prototype.  It was apparent to me there were no adjustment pots to trim the filter responses.  That is something I want to have on mine.  In fact, I would build a couple of these, tuned slightly different.  I also want two more filter sections per bank to maximize panel usage and sonic contribution.  By making the filter sections tunable, one can get unusual responses.  I would not label the sections as to a specific frequency.  Rather, I would label them a "Band A", "Band B", and so on.  "Band A" on FFB #1 would probably be tuned very differently than "Band A" on a seemingly identical unit.  So, my FFB would certainly be different from Paul's and my strong opinions on how I'd want a FFB done would preclude me as a customer for Paul's FFB.  But would it be "too close for comfort"?  I could always do a Schaeffer panel but I happen to like the look of stooge panels and would prefer to keep my synth limited to MOTM and stooge panels.

This whole synth interest is based on individual ideas on what would be cool and these ideas are as different as there are people involved.  But I could also understand some reluctance to doing just anything.  Maybe the big question is, are there any sort of guidelines that could be used to avoid making anyone uncomfortable?  I could understand there being a big, fat, "no" written if someone wanted a VCO panel that said "MOTM 300" on it.  But if I wanted my own VCO panel, would that be ruled out because Paul has a VCO in his lineup (assuming my VCO had little resemblance to Paul's)?  Despite thunderous accolades for the 300, I have observed a number of anomalies that I don't care for.  This is the wrong list to elaborate, but suffice it to say that I will eventually do my own VCOs.  Will I have a problem getting panels?  (No, my VCOs will look nothing like a 300.  In fact, they will be a dual-VCOs in a 3U panel.  Is that OK?)

Cheers!
Tom Farrand

Re: [motmpanels] Stooge Panel Announcements, et al

2003-02-19 by Larry Hendry

--- mbedtom@... wrote:
> I am a huge stooge panel fan and, speaking for myself, would love
> to hear about "the next run".

Thanks Tom.

> But I have to ask, what sort of panels might fall into
> the "illegal" category of panels?

Tom, nothing is "illegal." All DIY panels are OK in Stooge land no
matter what they are. Stooge panels was created with DIY in mind.
Let's just say that Paul has a paranoid uncomfort level with certain
panels being discussed on "his" list. This centers around what he
views as competition from Oakley and Blacet for circuits that Paul
sells. For example, since he is about to release a VCEG, having a
Stooge panel for the Blacet VCEG well ahead of his planned module
release is something he views will kill his sales. So, he was OK,
with the Blacet Miniwave, Time Machine, and Dark Star. He is not so
cool with the Blacet VCO, VCA and EG which he sees as bread-and-
butter competition.

Now, whether one subscribes to Paul's point of view or not is
certainy not the issue. My point would be if I don't make the
panels, someone else will (this list proves that). But, I have found
the best thing to do is simply not to discuss panels that bother Paul
on Paul's list.

So, we are willing to make just about anything in Stooge land. I
just have some that I ask those who buy not to discuss on Paul's list
out of respect for Paul's wishes not to have them discussed on that
list. Now, if I truly believe that a particular panel will dig into
MOTM sales, then I draw my own line and choose not to do them. Other
vendors are available. So, everyone can do their own thing. I have
to do what I think is right too. So, you will probably never see me
do a 3rd party EG (other than DIY).

I'm sorry to drag this diuscussion onto this list. I promise to shut
up about it. I only did so because Tom asked. And, I wanted to
assure Tom that Stooge panels will never turn down a DIY panel
request.

I'm happy to have a forum where list members can discuss Stoooge
panels and other vendors designs without fear of criticism of MOTM
competition. You will never hear that from me.

Thanks for letting me ramble. I'll shut up now and be sure to let you
guys know when Moe and I get ready to run panels (soon). But, I am
always happy to see guys buying Schaeffer too. More panels = more
brackets. "I'm rich I tell you, I'm rich." <snicker>

Stooge Larry


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Re: [motmpanels] Stooge Panel Announcements, et al

2003-02-20 by Richard Brewster

> But, I am
> always happy to see guys buying Schaeffer too. More panels = more
> brackets. "I'm rich I tell you, I'm rich." <snicker>
>
> Stooge Larry
>

Heh. At $4.00 a bracket it'll take you a while to get rich, Larry :). At
least I've contributed to your bracket fortune. Folks, you can take this as
my endorsement for Stooge brackets. Truth is, I don't know what I'd do
without them. Much appreciated, Larry.

-Richard Brewster

Re: [motmpanels] Stooge Panel Announcements, et al

2003-03-10 by gareII@aol.com

Hi Larry..I've just recently 'cleaned' up all my emails when I ran across this. Would you be able to provide a list of what you already have screens for ?
I remember Dave Hylander mentioning an Oakley Equinox for instance.

Gary

>--- mbedtom@... wrote:
>> I am a huge stooge panel fan and, speaking for myself, would love
>> to hear about "the next run".
>
>Thanks Tom.
>
>> But I have to ask, what sort of panels might fall into
>> the "illegal" category of panels?
>
>Tom, nothing is "illegal."  All DIY panels are OK in Stooge land no
>matter what they are.  Stooge panels was created with DIY in mind.
>Let's just say that Paul has a paranoid uncomfort level with certain
>panels being discussed on "his" list. This centers around what he
>views as competition from Oakley and Blacet for circuits that Paul
>sells.  For example, since he is about to release a VCEG, having a
>Stooge panel for the Blacet VCEG well ahead of his planned module
>release is something he views will kill his sales.  So, he was OK,
>with the Blacet Miniwave, Time Machine, and Dark Star.  He is not so
>cool with the Blacet VCO, VCA and EG which he sees as bread-and-
>butter competition.
>
>Now, whether one subscribes to Paul's point of view or not is
>certainy not the issue.  My point would be if I don't make the
>panels, someone else will (this list proves that). But, I have found
>the best thing to do is simply not to discuss panels that bother Paul
>on Paul's list.
>
>So, we are willing to make just about anything in Stooge land.  I
>just have some that I ask those who buy not to discuss on Paul's list
>out of respect for Paul's wishes not to have them discussed on that
>list.  Now, if I truly believe that a particular panel will dig into
>MOTM sales, then I draw my own line and choose not to do them.  Other
>vendors are available.  So, everyone can do their own thing.  I have
>to do what I think is right too.  So, you will probably never see me
>do a 3rd party EG (other than DIY).
>
>I'm sorry to drag this diuscussion onto this list.  I promise to shut
>up about it.  I only did so because Tom asked.  And, I wanted to
>assure Tom that Stooge panels will never turn down a DIY panel
>request.
>
>I'm happy to have a forum where list members can discuss Stoooge
>panels and other vendors designs without fear of criticism of MOTM
>competition.  You will never hear that from me.
>
>Thanks for letting me ramble. I'll shut up now and be sure to let you
>guys know when Moe and I get ready to run panels (soon).  But, I am
>always happy to see guys buying Schaeffer too.  More panels = more
>brackets.  "I'm rich I tell you, I'm rich." <snicker>
>
>Stooge Larry
>
>
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Re: [motmpanels] Stooge Panel Announcements, et al

2003-03-10 by Larry Hendry

--- gareII@... wrote:
> Hi Larry..I've just recently 'cleaned' up all my emails when I ran
> across this. Would you be able to provide a list of what you
> already have screens for ?
> I remember Dave Hylander mentioning an Oakley Equinox for instance.
>
> Gary

Here is the current list. I am certain we will be adding to it soon.
We always add new designs when we run panels based on what people ask
for and what DIY'ers want to pay for. I have one of the Ken Stone
PCBs I want a panel for. If the panel is marked DIY, there may or
may not be a completed circuit to go with it.

Under no circumstances is this list to be reproduced or reposted in
ANY other public forum. If the panel is marked non-public, I
specifically request that discussion about that panel does not get
onto Paul's MOTM list. I appreciate your cooperation. This is a
touchy subject with Paul on which we disagree. I walk a tightrope on
this issue to supply what people want and yet still stay in good
graces with Paul (he IS my biggest customer - brackets).

----- Stooge panels -------
Encore Expressionist Break-out Panel
JLH - 822 panel
Blacet Mixer (not public)
Blacet Frequency divider (not public)
Blacet Final Filter (not public)
Blacet Dark Star Panel (re-design)
Blacet Dark Star (original design)
Blacet Time Machine Panel
Blacet KlangWerks Panel
Blacet Mini-wave Panel
Oakely Equinoxe (not public)
Oakley Wavefolder
Oakley VCO (not public)
Oakley 902 Multi-mixer
Oakley 410 aid
Oakley 820 aid
Oakley MIDI-dac
Oakley Multiladder (not public)
Oakley Superladder 3U (not public)
Oakley EFG deluxe (not public)
DIY Diode Waveshaper
DIY Kenton Break out panel
DIY 822 companion modulation mixer
DIY Big Briar MF-101
DIY Radio-Flier 901 PS - 1U
DIY Radio Flier 105 Preamp panel -1U
DIY Radio Flier 117 VCA panel -1U
DIY Radio Flier 134 Quad VCA - 2U
DIY Radio Flier 804 4x Gate Delay - 2U
DIY Radio Flier 433 triple Resonant Filter - 3U
DIY Radio Flier 777 MIDI-CV - 3U
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