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Hi Scott,

On 30 Jan 2008, at 22:54, Scott Deyo wrote:

> I hardly remember anymore, it's been so long --
> CGS SubOsc
> MOTM/ Tellun 120 and 320
> Doomsday
>
> ???
> some others...

I'm interested in the following (MOTM format):

2 x Oakley OMS-410
1 x JH Triple Chorus
1 x Tellun Sword of Kahless

With kind regards,
Ben

I hardly remember anymore, it's been so long --
CGS SubOsc
MOTM/ Tellun 120 and 320
Doomsday

???
some others...

Scott Deyo
The Bridechamber
contact@...
www.bridechamber.com

On Jan 29, 2008, at 6:11 PM, James Elliott wrote:

> Scott, what is due out in this current panel run? I need to determine
> what parts I need to order if you are releasing something I haven't
> already built.
>
> Also, have you decided what the next run is going to be?
>
> Hopefully:
> CGS VCO
> CGS Sub
> CGS Steiner
> CGS Burst Generator
> CGS VC Divider
> CGS CV Cluster
> etc etc etc :)
>
> -Jim
>
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> Search.
>
>
>

ugh, the 'bug, the moral grey-area decision.... : )
is grant out there? would he care?

Scott Deyo
The Bridechamber
contact@...
www.bridechamber.com

On Jan 29, 2008, at 10:01 PM, Michael Beck wrote:

> Oh yeah - also the Wogglebug (2x) and a OMS-410 (1u, with stereo
> outputs)!
>
> :) :) :)
>

Scott Deyo wrote:

> ugh, the 'bug, the moral grey-area decision.... : )
> is grant out there? would he care?

Grant released the #3 standard Wogglebug schematic on his DIY web site and
has posted appreciative comments about folks who built their own. I would
assume from this that DIY panel efforts are fine. The Production
Wogglebug is revision 5 or 6 at this point, and it's a dual unit with
extra circuitry for the child tones and (I believe) more outs and ins than
the #3.

If you're really uptight, you should ask. He may not respond within the
day or even the week but he will respond :)

Paul

On 1/31/08, plord <plord@...> wrote:

>
> Grant released the #3 standard Wogglebug schematic on his DIY web site and
> has posted appreciative comments about folks who built their own. I would
> assume from this that DIY panel efforts are fine.
>
> If you're really uptight, you should ask. He may not respond within the
> day or even the week but he will respond :)
>

Well,

If We are really uptight - Why don't You ask Him? If You are There Plord?

Samppa

Samppa Tolvanen wrote:

> If We are really uptight - Why don't You ask Him? If You are There Plord?

Oh dear, that sure came out wrong. Sorry, posting quick while dinner was
waiting. I'll ask, sure.

Paul

I've emailed him twice, no reply, though not about that...
Maybe he has an overly good spam filter : )

Scott Deyo
The Bridechamber
contact@...
www.bridechamber.com

On Jan 30, 2008, at 8:55 PM, Samppa Tolvanen wrote:

> On 1/31/08, plord <plord@...> wrote:
> >
> > Grant released the #3 standard Wogglebug schematic on his DIY web
> site and
> > has posted appreciative comments about folks who built their own. I
> would
> > assume from this that DIY panel efforts are fine.
> >
> > If you're really uptight, you should ask. He may not respond within
> the
> > day or even the week but he will respond :)
> >
>
> Well,
>
> If We are really uptight - Why don't You ask Him? If You are There
> Plord?
>
> Samppa
>
>

I've emailed him twice, no reply, though not about that...
Maybe he has an overly good spam filter  : )

> If you're really uptight, you should ask. He may not respond within the
> day or even the week but he will respond :)

From what I've heard, Grant's not hard to reach by phone. Have you heard of the telephone? It's a fantastic invention that allows 2 (or more!) people to converse over long distance in real time.

Email has become so commonplace that people seem to have forgotten that we can actually speak to each other. Pick up the freakin' phone! :-D

Heck, the Wiard site basically says that you should call:
http://www.wiard.com/contacts/contacts.html

John

From Grant:

"From a legal standpoint, publishing the design enters it into the
public domain and removes my right to request "cease and desist". It
is rather flattering that someone made a PC board and someone else
made a faceplate. A "business" needs about 1 million a year in cash
flow, anything else is an obsession or a hobby. So Mr. Deyo's public
service work bring Wogglebugs to the disadvantaged, doesn't qualify
as a business in my mind. There is no comparison between the
published work and what is in the modules (the modules have two #5
standard Wogglebugs plus more)."

Therefore, proceed :)

cheers,
Paul

Scott Deyo wrote:

> I've emailed him twice, no reply, though not about that...
> Maybe he has an overly good spam filter : )
>
> Scott Deyo
> The Bridechamber
> contact@...
> www.bridechamber.com
>
>
> On Jan 30, 2008, at 8:55 PM, Samppa Tolvanen wrote:
>
>
> > On 1/31/08, plord <plord@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Grant released the #3 standard Wogglebug schematic on his DIY
> > web site and
> > > has posted appreciative comments about folks who built their
> > own. I would
> > > assume from this that DIY panel efforts are fine.
> > >
> > > If you're really uptight, you should ask. He may not respond
> > within the
> > > day or even the week but he will respond :)
> > >
> >
> > Well,
> >
> > If We are really uptight - Why don't You ask Him? If You are There
> > Plord?
> >
> > Samppa
> >
>
>

Alrighty then : )

And as far as phones, I don't like 'em. Never did. An email, you get
it, you have some time to think about your answer at your leisure, you
send your reply.

Maybe Grant (for example) is just digging into a bowl of Cocoa Crisp or
BooBerry, and the phone rings. Then some git is going on about
WoggleBug junk, and his cereal is getting soggy. Or maybe he's burning
his Brett Favre stuff (he's in WI, no?), muttering "Why? Why? Why? Why?
He had the wrong jersey on! Why did you pass it to him? Why?" and some
MN guy calls about the 'Bug... not good.

: )

Scott Deyo
The Bridechamber
contact@...
www.bridechamber.com

On Jan 31, 2008, at 1:23 AM, plord wrote:

> From Grant:
>
> "From a legal standpoint, publishing the design enters it into the
> public domain and removes my right to request "cease and desist". It
> is rather flattering that someone made a PC board and someone else
> made a faceplate. A "business" needs about 1 million a year in cash
> flow, anything else is an obsession or a hobby. So Mr. Deyo's public
> service work bring Wogglebugs to the disadvantaged, doesn't qualify
> as a business in my mind. There is no comparison between the
> published work and what is in the modules (the modules have two #5
> standard Wogglebugs plus more)."
>
> Therefore, proceed :)
>
> cheers,
> Paul
>
> Scott Deyo wrote:
> > I've emailed him twice, no reply, though not about that...
> > Maybe he has an overly good spam filter : )
> >
> > Scott Deyo
> > The Bridechamber
> > contact@...
> > www.bridechamber.com
> >
> >
> > On Jan 30, 2008, at 8:55 PM, Samppa Tolvanen wrote:
> >
> >
> > > On 1/31/08, plord <plord@...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Grant released the #3 standard Wogglebug schematic on his DIY
> > > web site and
> > > > has posted appreciative comments about folks who built their
> > > own. I would
> > > > assume from this that DIY panel efforts are fine.
> > > >
> > > > If you're really uptight, you should ask. He may not respond
> > > within the
> > > > day or even the week but he will respond :)
> > > >
> > >
> > > Well,
> > >
> > > If We are really uptight - Why don't You ask Him? If You are There
> > > Plord?
> > >
> > > Samppa
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

I've also had some guys call me, and it kind of freaks me out.
Is it so urgent that email can't handle it? I immediately think
something bad has happened!
So don't ever call me, John!
: )

Scott Deyo
The Bridechamber
contact@...
www.bridechamber.com

On Jan 30, 2008, at 10:30 PM, John Mahoney wrote:

>> I've emailed him twice, no reply, though not about that...
>> Maybe he has an overly good spam filter  : )
>>
>>> > If you're really uptight, you should ask. He may not respond
>>> within the
>>> > day or even the week but he will respond :)
>
> From what I've heard, Grant's not hard to reach by phone. Have you
> heard of the telephone? It's a fantastic invention that allows 2 (or
> more!) people to converse over long distance in real time.
>
> Email has become so commonplace that people seem to have forgotten
> that we can actually speak to each other. Pick up the freakin' phone!
> :-D
>
> Heck, the Wiard site basically says that you should call:
> http://www.wiard.com/contacts/contacts.html
>
> John
>
>
>
> No virus found in this outgoing message.
> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.17/1252 - Release Date:
> 1/30/2008 8:51 PM

--- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, "plord" <plord@...> wrote:

>
> From Grant:
>
> "From a legal standpoint, publishing the design enters it into the
> public domain and removes my right to request "cease and desist". It
> is rather flattering that someone made a PC board and someone else
> made a faceplate. A "business" needs about 1 million a year in cash
> flow, anything else is an obsession or a hobby. So Mr. Deyo's public
> service work bring Wogglebugs to the disadvantaged, doesn't qualify
> as a business in my mind. There is no comparison between the
> published work and what is in the modules (the modules have two #5
> standard Wogglebugs plus more)."
>
> Therefore, proceed :)
>
> cheers,
> Paul

I don't think Grant really means this as it is written. I don't think he is trying to be
condescending at all. he probably just wrote it quick.

So go and Woggle :)

lol at all these responses--

grant is friendly and relatively easy to reach by phone, which he prefers.

http://wiard.com/contacts/contacts.html



--- Scott Deyo <contact@...> wrote:

> I've also had some guys call me, and it kind of freaks me out.
> Is it so urgent that email can't handle it? I immediately think
> something bad has happened!
> So don't ever call me, John!
> : )
>
> Scott Deyo
> The Bridechamber
> contact@...
> www.bridechamber.com
>
>
> On Jan 30, 2008, at 10:30 PM, John Mahoney wrote:
>
> >> I've emailed him twice, no reply, though not about that...
> >> Maybe he has an overly good spam filter : )
> >>
> >>> > If you're really uptight, you should ask. He may not respond
> >>> within the
> >>> > day or even the week but he will respond :)
> >
> > From what I've heard, Grant's not hard to reach by phone. Have you
> > heard of the telephone? It's a fantastic invention that allows 2 (or
> > more!) people to converse over long distance in real time.
> >
> > Email has become so commonplace that people seem to have forgotten
> > that we can actually speak to each other. Pick up the freakin' phone!
> > :-D
> >
> > Heck, the Wiard site basically says that you should call:
> > http://www.wiard.com/contacts/contacts.html
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >
> > No virus found in this outgoing message.
> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.17/1252 - Release Date:
> > 1/30/2008 8:51 PM
>

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At 12:56 PM 1/31/2008, loopcycle wrote:

>lol at all these responses--
>
>grant is friendly and relatively easy to reach by phone, which he prefers.

Right. This isn't the place to argue the merits of phone vs. email,
but email is often used inappropriately, it's a very inefficient way
to have a dialog, and just because the phone rings doesn't mean that
you need to pick it up -- that's what answering machines are for.

And Scott, I'm a little concerned about a guy who (a) doesn't like to
talk to people and (b) panics when the phone rings. Call me within
the hour or your Mankato privileges are revoked! ;-)

John

(Of course I am kidding -- please sell a lot of Mankatos.)


--
No virus found in this outgoing message.
Checked by AVG Free Edition.
Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.17/1253 - Release Date: 1/31/2008 9:09 AM

As the resident agoraphobe, email scares me far less - and caller ID
helps a lot <G> - and then, of course I can always get Will to answer
the phone if it absolutely can't be avoided otherwise <LOL>. But yes
- back to panels - In the next run, I think we're going to need the JH
Krautrock Phaser panel, right? Also any thoughts about a group buy of
the 7V lamps and panel-mount lamp holders? We'll need to get them
from Europe. Bill




--- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, John Mahoney <jmahoney@...>
wrote:

>
> At 12:56 PM 1/31/2008, loopcycle wrote:
>
> >lol at all these responses--
> >
> >grant is friendly and relatively easy to reach by phone, which he

prefers.

>
>
> Right. This isn't the place to argue the merits of phone vs. email,
> but email is often used inappropriately, it's a very inefficient way
> to have a dialog, and just because the phone rings doesn't mean that
> you need to pick it up -- that's what answering machines are for.
>
> And Scott, I'm a little concerned about a guy who (a) doesn't like to
> talk to people and (b) panics when the phone rings. Call me within
> the hour or your Mankato privileges are revoked! ;-)
>
> John
>
> (Of course I am kidding -- please sell a lot of Mankatos.)
>
>
> --
> No virus found in this outgoing message.
> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.17/1253 - Release Date:

1/31/2008 9:09 AM

>

Well, I don't agree w/ the one million number, but otherwise, yeah. The
Bridechamber is not a business, per se. It has to make me some money to
be that : )
And it needs proper documentation, timely updates, and to be more, in a
word, professional.

We just sold our bakery, which brought in 1/2 mil per year. That works
for a small shop, but not really a technical business.

I'd be interested to know how many modular companies are full-time. I
think most are part-time, while a day-time tech job pays the actual
rent.

Scott Deyo
The Bridechamber
contact@...
www.bridechamber.com

On Jan 31, 2008, at 11:45 AM, adaaxs wrote:

> --- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, "plord" <plord@...> wrote:
> >
> > From Grant:
> >
> > "From a legal standpoint, publishing the design enters it into the
> > public domain and removes my right to request "cease and desist". It
> > is rather flattering that someone made a PC board and someone else
> > made a faceplate. A "business" needs about 1 million a year in cash
> > flow, anything else is an obsession or a hobby. So Mr. Deyo's public
> > service work bring Wogglebugs to the disadvantaged, doesn't qualify
> > as a business in my mind. There is no comparison between the
> > published work and what is in the modules (the modules have two #5
> > standard Wogglebugs plus more)."
> >
> > Therefore, proceed :)
> >
> > cheers,
> > Paul
>
>
> I don't think Grant really means this as it is written. I don't think
> he is trying to be
> condescending at all. he probably just wrote it quick.
>
> So go and Woggle :)
>
>
>

I may be the only guy w/o a cell phone ; )

No one's really taking this seriously, I hope. I didn't even think
anyone was really reading it!
Let's talk modulars!

So, we're doing the 'Bug. Are we doing a dual w/ the ring mod outputs
or just singles, and people can use separate ring mods? Is there a
mock-up out there? I know Richard Brewster made one. Thoughts, anyone?

Scott Deyo
The Bridechamber
contact@...
www.bridechamber.com

On Jan 31, 2008, at 12:21 PM, John Mahoney wrote:

> At 12:56 PM 1/31/2008, loopcycle wrote:
>
> >lol at all these responses--
> >
> >grant is friendly and relatively easy to reach by phone, which he
> prefers.
>
> Right. This isn't the place to argue the merits of phone vs. email,
> but email is often used inappropriately, it's a very inefficient way
> to have a dialog, and just because the phone rings doesn't mean that
> you need to pick it up -- that's what answering machines are for.
>
> And Scott, I'm a little concerned about a guy who (a) doesn't like to
> talk to people and (b) panics when the phone rings. Call me within
> the hour or your Mankato privileges are revoked! ;-)
>
> John
>
> (Of course I am kidding -- please sell a lot of Mankatos.)
>
> --
> No virus found in this outgoing message.
> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.17/1253 - Release Date:
> 1/31/2008 9:09 AM
>
>
>

I did not mean it to be condescending or offensive to anyone. I try to treat everyone with
respect and kindness. I do apologize if anyone was offended, it was unintentional.

I had no expectation that my private correspondence would be published, since copying
text from private correspondence and posting it on public sites can be the basis for a
lawsuit.

My private e-mail to Paul was supposed to be funny, that is wry wit or dry humor. Very
hard to get through in text where you can't see my tongue in my cheek. I have to be more
careful and use more emoticons. But I would have thought that naming something a "#3
Standard Wogglebug" would be a clue that humor and engineering coexist happily at
Wiard.

The quote about 1 million a year is from an accountant who did not want to even talk with
me because Wiard is much too small.

And really, "bringing Wogglebugs to the disadvantaged" is just so ridiculous, how can
anyone not laugh at that. Those who are actually disadvantaged need food and shelter.
The last thing they need is a Wogglebug, which you can't eat or even burn as fuel.

I hope I cleared up any confusion. Happy Woggling!

--- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, "adaaxs" <wonggster@...> wrote:
>
> --- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, "plord" <plord@> wrote:
> >
> > From Grant:
> >
> > "From a legal standpoint, publishing the design enters it into the
> > public domain and removes my right to request "cease and desist". It
> > is rather flattering that someone made a PC board and someone else
> > made a faceplate. A "business" needs about 1 million a year in cash
> > flow, anything else is an obsession or a hobby. So Mr. Deyo's public
> > service work bring Wogglebugs to the disadvantaged, doesn't qualify
> > as a business in my mind. There is no comparison between the
> > published work and what is in the modules (the modules have two #5
> > standard Wogglebugs plus more)."
> >
> > Therefore, proceed :)
> >
> > cheers,
> > Paul
>
>
> I don't think Grant really means this as it is written. I don't think he is trying to be
> condescending at all. he probably just wrote it quick.
>
> So go and Woggle :)
>

On Jan 30, 2008, at 10:30 PM, John Mahoney wrote:

> Have you heard of the telephone? It's a fantastic invention that
> allows 2 (or more!) people to converse over long distance in real
> time.

actually i have this crazy thing that fits IN MY POCKET that allows
me to call long distance for no more than i pay for local calls. it's
incredible.

and no, it's not a blue box.

funny that the guy who paid his way through college selling devices
to allow you to make long distance calls at a local rate by
manipulating the phone company technology has now come full circle
and is doing it again. even manipulating the same phone company's
tech at that matter.

on a different note, John's sarcasm is actually not sarcasm in a day
where phones do everything from take photos, send email, and play
MP3s. even the aforementioned blue box salesman has a product that
does everything their phone does, but without the phone part. funny
enough, i'm more excited about the iPod Touch than i am the iPhone.

my cell phone is _just_ a cell phone. it's an LG Touchpoint 1100. i
don't ride the smart phone train. the route map confuses me.
---
Suit & Tie Guy
suitandtieguy.com
stgsoundlabs.com

I don't think anyone took it offensively.
And no matter what, heck, we're just talkin'.

The best thing is, now you're on the group, and you'll get all these
emails! ; p

Scott Deyo
The Bridechamber
contact@...
www.bridechamber.com

On Jan 31, 2008, at 4:58 PM, Grant Richter wrote:

> I did not mean it to be condescending or offensive to anyone. I try to
> treat everyone with
> respect and kindness. I do apologize if anyone was offended, it was
> unintentional.
>
> I had no expectation that my private correspondence would be
> published, since copying
> text from private correspondence and posting it on public sites can
> be the basis for a
> lawsuit.
>
> My private e-mail to Paul was supposed to be funny, that is wry wit
> or dry humor. Very
> hard to get through in text where you can't see my tongue in my
> cheek. I have to be more
> careful and use more emoticons. But I would have thought that naming
> something a "#3
> Standard Wogglebug" would be a clue that humor and engineering
> coexist happily at
> Wiard.
>
> The quote about 1 million a year is from an accountant who did not
> want to even talk with
> me because Wiard is much too small.
>
> And really, "bringing Wogglebugs to the disadvantaged" is just so
> ridiculous, how can
> anyone not laugh at that. Those who are actually disadvantaged need
> food and shelter.
> The last thing they need is a Wogglebug, which you can't eat or even
> burn as fuel.
>
> I hope I cleared up any confusion. Happy Woggling!
>
> --- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, "adaaxs" <wonggster@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, "plord" <plord@> wrote:
> > >
> > > From Grant:
> > >
> > > "From a legal standpoint, publishing the design enters it into the
> > > public domain and removes my right to request "cease and desist".
> It
> > > is rather flattering that someone made a PC board and someone else
> > > made a faceplate. A "business" needs about 1 million a year in
> cash
> > > flow, anything else is an obsession or a hobby. So Mr. Deyo's
> public
> > > service work bring Wogglebugs to the disadvantaged, doesn't
> qualify
> > > as a business in my mind. There is no comparison between the
> > > published work and what is in the modules (the modules have two #5
> > > standard Wogglebugs plus more)."
> > >
> > > Therefore, proceed :)
> > >
> > > cheers,
> > > Paul
> >
> >
> > I don't think Grant really means this as it is written. I don't
> think he is trying to be
> > condescending at all. he probably just wrote it quick.
> >
> > So go and Woggle :)
> >
>
>
>

That's a good point.
If I sent an email from my cell phone, is that OK for everyone?
Is texting an email or a phone call? Not that I'd know how to text
someone, but I've heard of it. It's as real to me as unicorns. I've
heard about 'em.

Scott Deyo
The Bridechamber
contact@...
www.bridechamber.com

On Jan 31, 2008, at 6:37 PM, Suit & Tie Guy wrote:

> On Jan 30, 2008, at 10:30 PM, John Mahoney wrote:
> > Have you heard of the telephone? It's a fantastic invention that
> > allows 2 (or more!) people to converse over long distance in real
> > time.
>
> actually i have this crazy thing that fits IN MY POCKET that allows
> me to call long distance for no more than i pay for local calls. it's
> incredible.
>
> and no, it's not a blue box.
>
> funny that the guy who paid his way through college selling devices
> to allow you to make long distance calls at a local rate by
> manipulating the phone company technology has now come full circle
> and is doing it again. even manipulating the same phone company's
> tech at that matter.
>
> on a different note, John's sarcasm is actually not sarcasm in a day
> where phones do everything from take photos, send email, and play
> MP3s. even the aforementioned blue box salesman has a product that
> does everything their phone does, but without the phone part. funny
> enough, i'm more excited about the iPod Touch than i am the iPhone.
>
> my cell phone is _just_ a cell phone. it's an LG Touchpoint 1100. i
> don't ride the smart phone train. the route map confuses me.
> ---
> Suit & Tie Guy
> suitandtieguy.com
> stgsoundlabs.com
>
>
>

Oh goodness - no offecnce has been taken here - just chuckles.  Bill



Scott Deyo wrote:

I don't think anyone took it offensively.
And no matter what, heck, we're just talkin'.

The best thing is, now you're on the group, and you'll get all these emails! ; p

Scott Deyo
The Bridechamber
contact@...
www.bridechamber.com


On Jan 31, 2008, at 4:58 PM, Grant Richter wrote:

I did not mean it to be condescending or offensive to anyone. I try to treat everyone with
respect and kindness. I do apologize if anyone was offended, it was unintentional.

I had no expectation that my private correspondence would be published, since copying
text from private correspondence and posting it on public sites can be the basis for a
lawsuit.

My private e-mail to Paul was supposed to be funny, that is wry wit or dry humor. Very
hard to get through in text where you can't see my tongue in my cheek. I have to be more
careful and use more emoticons. But I would have thought that naming something a "#3
Standard Wogglebug" would be a clue that humor and engineering coexist happily at
Wiard.

The quote about 1 million a year is from an accountant who did not want to even talk with
me because Wiard is much too small.

And really, "bringing Wogglebugs to the disadvantaged" is just so ridiculous, how can
anyone not laugh at that. Those who are actually disadvantaged need food and shelter.
The last thing they need is a Wogglebug, which you can't eat or even burn as fuel.

I hope I cleared up any confusion. Happy Woggling!

--- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, "adaaxs" <wonggster@...> wrote:
>
> --- In ModularSynthPanels@yahoogroups.com, "plord" <plord@> wrote:
> >
> > From Grant:
> >
> > "From a legal standpoint, publishing the design enters it into the
> > public domain and removes my right to request "cease and desist". It
> > is rather flattering that someone made a PC board and someone else
> > made a faceplate. A "business" needs about 1 million a year in cash
> > flow, anything else is an obsession or a hobby. So Mr. Deyo's public
> > service work bring Wogglebugs to the disadvantaged, doesn't qualify
> > as a business in my mind. There is no comparison between the
> > published work and what is in the modules (the modules have two #5
> > standard Wogglebugs plus more)."
> >
> > Therefore, proceed :)
> >
> > cheers,
> > Paul
>
>
> I don't think Grant really means this as it is written. I don't think he is trying to be
> condescending at all. he probably just wrote it quick.
>
> So go and Woggle :)
>